Oso planning to go pro
Yo, instead of being a prick.....just find an article, interview, anything suggesting what jockey posted was being said by experts in January, Feb, March of 2020.
Best and simplest summary I have seen. https://twitter.com/ianbremmer/status/1398651730175406081?s=21
His statement that if this had started in any democracy we'd have had a far better chance of containing it is false. Look how long it took us to realize it was circulating here, and that is with knowing we should be looking for it.
The US had plenty of failings but they didn’t withhold information and/or lie about what they had found to the rest of the world in terms of fact finding. Even if it didn’t come from a lab leak, I don’t know why there is any reason to praise or defend China for anything in this pandemic, outside of some of their local response which is even up for debate given their outlandish inaccuracies in infection and death reporting
Perhaps the US didn't withhold info and/or lie about what they had found to the rest of the world, but the president of the US was telling the American people that COVID-19 was similar to the flu and that it would disappear "like a miracle" within days ... even as he was telling Bob Woodward it was 5 times more deadly "than even your strenuous flus."
FFS Mike, can you stay on topic for even 1 post without repeating the same f-ing crap over and over? You’re adding NOTHING and doing nothing but trying to bait the same people. Nobody in the international medical community was making or adjusting their perspective on COVID cause of what Trump said in a press conference. Wildly different than WHO statements and guidance based on what China was feeding them
China clearly lied about a lot. But I don't think you can say we didn't withhold information and/or lie about what they had found. We actively forbid researchers from testing suspicious samples in cases of severe flu-like symptoms that were flu negative. These were later found to contain some of the earliest cases of COVID that then went un-investigated. We deliberately blocked testing of people returning from China. These actions knowingly withheld the US public, and the world from realizing how much spread there was already in the US. We then also, in almost all states under-reported deaths by only reporting tests with a positive COVID test, but not testing those who died with COVID-like symptoms.I'd argue that if China was reported to have done all the above, many on these boards would be screaming that the above were lies and deliberate withholding of information and they should be held responsible.
https://www.foxnews.com/world/explosive-study-claims-to-prove-chinese-scientists-created-covidArticles like this drive me nuts. It is articles like this, pushed by agenda driven groups like the GOP and Foxnews that lead to crazy conspiracy theories. And leads to scientists being accused of rejecting the idea of a "lab leak" because they are refuting crap science.The reason this article was rejected by major journals wasn't some conspiracy theory, but simply because their main premise is crap. They claim that since a SARS-CoV2 protein has 4 positively charged amino acids in a row it proves that SARS-CoV2 was engineered, because "The laws of physics mean that you cannot have four positively charged amino acids in a row."Someone needs to tell that to one of the proteins I study, because it has 4 positively charged amino acids in a row, as to plenty of other natural proteins.
no chit forget. almost as bad as every network in the world except fox pushing russiarussiarussia for 3 + years, but i understand your frustration
Unfortunately, the GOP..
Yet again you have used the slightest opening to go off topic and inject your political opinions.
And realized it. And apologized for it. You should be as willing to do the same.