Scholarship table
Dual citizenship countries:https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-that-allow-dual-citizenshipMore info:https://citizenpath.com/dual-citizenship-in-the-us/
I thought the US allowed dual nationality.
Uhhh gang, I don't think you want to go to deep with this one.In 1976, Butch Lee of our beloved Marquette Warriors competed for Puerto Rico.While he was born in Puerto Rico, he went to school in New York and was recruited from New York by Coach McGuire.At the time of the Olympics, he lived in Milwaukee and yet competed for Puerto Rico.As Marquette folklore goes, Mr. Lee almost single-handedly took down the high and mighty U.S. Olympic Men's Basketball Team. A legendary game that probably was the first time a Marquette guy drove Dean Smith absolutely crazy.
I don't have a problem with someone who didn't make their own country team get a chance elsewhere, like Butch Lee did (I may be wrong, but he may not have even been invited to tryout). I don't like US citizens competing for other countries as their first choice, but who am I to judge? They may have good reasons that I don't know or understand. Anyway, what I think is right and what is fair may be the same thing to me, but may not be to other people.
Could you elaborate on this? Is it only if they medal/are favorited?
Curious to everyone's thoughts on the various USA born individuals competing for other countries? What about the various foreign individuals competing for the USA? How should the Olympics define who you can compete for. Seems like a bigger deal's being made about it this year than previously because of the Chinese-American athletes, but we benefit from it to (Hakeem Olajuwon)
I thought I did above. If they are excluded from their home country team because they didn't make it or weren't invited or something, then certainly I have no problem with someone wanting to go to the Olympics and competing for someone else. If you are good enough to compete for your country, then you should compete for your country. And that goes for the hockey guys and the basketball guys. If you are a citizen of Russia or Nigeria, then play for Russia or Nigeria if they'll have you, not the US. Just my two cents, I really don't care all that much, especially about the Winter Olympics, which I've watched maybe an hour of so far.
Or maybe the Olympics should be more about their accomplishments as individuals and less about the countries they represent.
You for sure sort of touched on it but I was more curious about your thoughts on dual citizens or people who might have a choice (puerto Rico, N Ireland) those types of instances was more what I was hoping you'd elaborate on. As you said you don't care and that's cool, I'm just here trying to figure out my own thoughts on the matter and open a dialogue.
I never even considered dual citizenship, it never occurred to me. In that case it should be entirely up to the athlete. I guess I don't like that someone who is born and raised in one country, used that countries coaches and resources to develop their skills, and has no ties to another country other than ancestry, chooses to play for another country when they would have been welcomed on their home country team. I think that has enough caveats, though I probably missed a few.
So like a place where athletes don't represent anything but themselves and get paid sponsorships and paid to do so while competing against the other best athletes in the world? If only such a concept existed...What's the point of Olympics if you take away the country thing? It's just a pro sports festival with Hockey and Basketball headlining each season and a bunch of openers.
Oddly enough, from the Olympic Charter: The Olympic Games are competitions between athletes in individual or teamevents and not between countries. They bring together the athletes selectedby their respective NOCs, whose entries have been accepted by the IOC. Theycompete under the technical direction of the IFs concerned.
I have dual U.S./German citizenship due to being born on an Army base in Germany to U.S. parents.If I was an athlete that couldn't qualify for the U.S. Olympic team, but could compete for Germany, I would do it in a hot second. I would be sad that I wouldn't be in a U.S. uniform, but attending the Olympics would be an opportunity I would never pass up.
Don't look too hard at Qatar's upcoming World Cup team.
China's men's hockey team is a better example IMO.
they blatantly recruited anyone of chine ancestry (one guys family came to Canada in the mid 1800s) and couldn't fill a roster so just started grabbing people who play in China but to be fair Qatar also did that, 6-7 players with no real connection to the country (most from Sudan)
Oh its better than that, if you play for China's lone KHL team, Kunlan Red Star, congrats, you're now Chinese! They have a journeyman AHL goalie from Detroit with zero Chinese ancestry, a Canadian Jewish player who actually has an Israeli passport, and my favorite...f*ing Chris Chelios' son, about as Chinese as can be.As I mentioned with Qatar, its different, most of those African players (Sudan, Algeria, Egypt) came to Qatar when they were young (in their late teens) to play in the Qatari league or for the academies. Looking through the roster, pretty much everyone had been their either since they were 17-18 or 8-10+ years. Thats not unreasonable and not abnormal. Not like the hockey players who have been playing for China for 2 years and come back immediately in the offseason.