MU tennis, track & field to become non-scholarship sports

[shoothoops]

And be replaced for 48 other future students.

Some of us are interested in more than just the Men's basketbsll team.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

I can't help but wonder if any of this is related to losing Joe True.  The timing is about right.

[muwarrior69]

As pointed out earlier, Marquette has other scholarships besides tennis and track and field partial scholarships. The only difference is that instead of this group of students getting part of their tuition paid for because they are good at tennis or track and field, they will have a different group of students getting part of their tuition paid for because of academics and service.

This move will negatively impact the quality of MU tennis and track and field programs. It will not negatively impact greater enrollment.

So budget cuts cost athletes their scholarships, but there is money for other scholarships? Go figure, a big middle finger to the student athlete and budget cutting is just a ruse.  If the money is there why cut?

[shoothoops]

It was already challenging enough before with some of the non-revenue sports. Top level performers in those sports expect full rides or close to it. It is common to combine partial athletic and partial academic scholarships and so forth for some of the other participants. The quality and quantity will drop significantly (obviously) without the athletic scholarships.

[Pakuni]

So budget cuts cost athletes their scholarships, but there is money for other scholarships? Go figure, a big middle finger to the student athlete and budget cutting is just a ruse.  If the money is there why cut?

Maybe the university thought it more important to award scholarships based on need and academic accomplishments than ability to hit a tennis ball or heave a shotput?

[shoothoops]

Maybe the university thought it more important to award scholarships based on need and academic accomplishments than ability to hit a tennis ball or heave a shotput?

And, elsewhere, they can do both.

[Jay Bee]

Marquette eSports still goin strong tho?

I’m getting pretty good at Fortnite. Squad up w me, bois

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

So budget cuts cost athletes their scholarships, but there is money for other scholarships? Go figure, a big middle finger to the student athlete and budget cutting is just a ruse.  If the money is there why cut?

I’msure everyone who was promised a scholarship is getting one. No one is going to lose their athletic scholarship.

[muwarrior69]

Maybe the university thought it more important to award scholarships based on need and academic accomplishments than ability to hit a tennis ball or heave a shotput?

Student athletes are not in need?

[wadesworld]

I'd guess these sports aren't very competitive and are losing the school money.

[warriorchick]

I know of at least one track scholarship that is endowed; I wonder what is going to happen to scholarships like that.

[#UnleashSean]

So you are saying a student who can get a scholarship playing tennis or track and field at another school will take an alternative scholarship to attend Marquette that does not take their sport seriously? I don't think so.

Very few people get full rides from track or tennis. For most the effect will be minimal.

[Pakuni]

Student athletes are not in need?

Some, sure. Not most. Athletes in non-revenue sports disproportionately come from wealthier families.
Which makes sense. Families with lower incomes generally can't afford top-level travel programs, private coaches, summer camps, and the other things that increase a kid's chance of becoming a scholarship athlete.

[shoothoops]

Some, sure. Not most. Athletes in non-revenue sports disproportionately come from wealthier families.
Which makes sense. Families with lower incomes generally can't afford top-level travel programs, private coaches, summer camps, and the other things that increase a kid's chance of becoming a scholarship athlete.

There are many more athletes than you may think or know about that get that financial assistance at younger ages via youth scholarships and aid in their sport. They most certainly expect and need that to continue at the college level. And they will go where they can get that. There are lots and lots of non-wealthy non revenue sports families.

Separately, even families that are more able to pay more, seek the best financial offer they can get. Recent example of a lost soccer recruit who received a very good offer, but not a full ride. That player chose a comparable program elsewhere. I know the family. They were not one of the many athletes with financial needs. It’s super competitive out there.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Student athletes are not in need?

If they are they would qualify for financial aid.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Some of us are interested in more than just the Men's basketbsll team.

As am I. I'm responding to the notion that this will somehow cause drop in enrollment

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

So budget cuts cost athletes their scholarships, but there is money for other scholarships? Go figure, a big middle finger to the student athlete and budget cutting is just a ruse.  If the money is there why cut?

There is money,  they are using it for other things. No one who was promised a scholarship is losing one, they just won't offer anymore either the future. Is MU not offering equestrian or fencing or wrestling scholarships a middle finger to student athletes?

This will negatively impact these programs. That's inarguable. It will not negatively impact the health of the university.

[muwarrior69]

There are many more athletes than you may think or know about that get that financial assistance at younger ages via youth scholarships and aid in their sport. They most certainly expect and need that to continue at the college level. And they will go where they can get that. There are lots and lots of non-wealthy non revenue sports families.

Separately, even families that are more able to pay more, seek the best financial offer they can get. Recent example of a lost soccer recruit who received a very good offer, but not a full ride. That player chose a comparable program elsewhere. I know the family. They were not one of the many athletes with financial needs. It’s super competitive out there.

This is the kind of student Marquette will not get any longer, and Lovell is trying to recruit students to Marquette at Basketball pre-game gatherings?

[shoothoops]

There is money,  they are using it for other things. No one who was promised a scholarship is losing one, they just won't offer anymore either the future. Is MU not offering equestrian or fencing or wrestling scholarships a middle finger to student athletes?

This will negatively impact these programs. That's inarguable. It will not negatively impact the health of the university.

It will negatively affect anyone past, present, or future who has been, is, or would have been affiliated with those programs in any way.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

This is the kind of student Marquette will not get any longer, and Lovell is trying to recruit students to Marquette at Basketball pre-game gatherings?

What?

[cheebs09]

It will negatively affect anyone past, present, or future who has been, is, or would have been affiliated with those programs in any way.

What event did you do for track?

[Dr. Blackheart]

What event did you do for track?

Shoothoops did Archery

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

It will negatively affect anyone past, present, or future who has been, is, or would have been affiliated with those programs in any way.

I don't think I said otherwise

[muwarrior69]

If they are they would qualify for financial aid.

That they would have to pay back, unlike an athletic scholarship.

[muwarrior69]

There is money,  they are using it for other things. No one who was promised a scholarship is losing one, they just won't offer anymore either the future. Is MU not offering equestrian or fencing or wrestling scholarships a middle finger to student athletes?

This will negatively impact these programs. That's inarguable. It will not negatively impact the health of the university.

Like what? If the money is there why take it away from a future student who is good at Tennis or Track? So you admit they are not really cutting the budget, they're just cutting a program because it does not bring value to Marquette and now they can offer financial aid to 48 other students who will have to pay it back.