2012 MLB Thread

[MerrittsMustache]

Anyone care to get back to that Josh Hamilton is better than Ryan Braun argument?

Despite the prolonged slump for Hammy, their numbers are still pretty close.

[🏀]

So his super, white hot streak wasn't an anomaly, but his 'prolonged slump' is?

Hot/Cold as the guy averages out. That's his MO, he'll find himself on the DL shortly I would venture to guess.

He won't command high caliber money this offseason.

[Benny B]

The slump has really brought down his stats, but in a slump hitting .290 is still very good. I would still sign him in a heartbeat this offseason especially since the price tag will be lower.

.282, actually.  .288 if you revise to include his 3 for 4 game last night.

He still gets a big contract as long as he stays in the .280 - .300 range.

[Otule's Glass Eye]

So his super, white hot streak wasn't an anomaly, but his 'prolonged slump' is?

Hot/Cold as the guy averages out. That's his MO, he'll find himself on the DL shortly I would venture to guess.

He won't command high caliber money this offseason.

If he is inexpensive then the Brewers should pull the trigger, they could trade Hart or Weeks this offseason to help with the money. Even if he only gives you 120-130 games a year he is usually one of the most dominant players in the game when he is on, right now he is not. Without him the Rangers don't get to back-to-back WS.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

He won't command high caliber money this offseason.

JD Drew got several LARGE contracts. He was ALWAYS hurt, and never played more than 145 games (and only played over 140 a handful of times). 

Hamilton will get his money. It won't be cheap.

[Hards Alumni]

Hamilton is a guy the Brewers should absolutely not sign.  Right now, the problem isn't the bats, its the arms.  The bullpen is the worst in baseball.  And the Brewers have some of the best power in all of baseball even though they lost a huge slugger from last year.

[GGGG]

Keep Hart at first and find a decent bat for RF that isn't going to cost huge money.  (Nick Swisher?Delmon Young?  Carlos Lee?)  With Wolf gone and the Greinke salary off the books, sign a starter and bull pen help.  Not sure to do with Marcum though.

Hamilton is the type of signing that could hamstring the Brewers for years if he breaks down....like the Mauer contract is doing for the Twins. 

[BrewCity83]

Keep Hart at first and find a decent bat for RF that isn't going to cost huge money.  (Nick Swisher?Delmon Young?  Carlos Lee?)  With Wolf gone and the Greinke salary off the books, sign a starter and bull pen help.  Not sure to do with Marcum though.

Hamilton is the type of signing that could hamstring the Brewers for years if he breaks down....like the Mauer contract is doing for the Twins. 

Aoki and Gamel may be the right fielders next year under this scenario.

[GGGG]

Aoki and Gamel may be the right fielders next year under this scenario.

Aoki doesn't have enough pop to be a corner outfielder and I still don't know what you have in Gamel. 

[Benny B]

Aoki doesn't have enough pop to be a corner outfielder and I still don't know what you have in Gamel. 

I think you could survive next year not having any pop in RF if you can fix the pen problems.  Offense needs more guys hitting for average than it does power.

[GGGG]

I think you could survive next year not having any pop in RF if you can fix the pen problems.  Offense needs more guys hitting for average than it does power.

A legitimate position no doubt.  See, I would rather have Aoki in center so Morgan's ass can be booted.  But that makes sense.

[Benny B]

A legitimate position no doubt.  See, I would rather have Aoki in center so Morgan's ass can be booted.  But that makes sense.

Agreed.... Morgan's "gotta go."  He'll latch on with someone else, have another good season and drop off again.  10 years from now, he may be the poster child for the argument for "change of scenery."

[The Process]

A legitimate position no doubt.  See, I would rather have Aoki in center so Morgan's ass can be booted.  But that makes sense.

I like Nyjer the Character, not Nyjer the Player.  While the occasional hit (i.e. yesterday's 2 run shot) are always good and whatnot... he's just not doing well this year.

As far as Aoki goes... perhaps it's time to try out Logan Schafer in CF in a platoon with The Man (Gomez) in September?

BTW - how many trades took place today!

[nyg]

I like Nyjer the Character, not Nyjer the Player.  While the occasional hit (i.e. yesterday's 2 run shot) are always good and whatnot... he's just not doing well this year.

As far as Aoki goes... perhaps it's time to try out Logan Schafer in CF in a platoon with The Man (Gomez) in September?

BTW - how many trades took place today!

Too many trades to list.  Alot.....

[Otule's Glass Eye]

Too many trades to list.  Alot.....

Dempster to the Rangers, Victorino to the Dodgers, Pence to the Giants were the 3 biggest.

[Otule's Glass Eye]

I like Hunter Morris as a long-term solution at 1B instead of Hart or Gamel, he's been killing it at AA all year. Not sure how much it translates to the next level. Morris-1B Gennett-2B Segura-SS.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

I like Nyjer the Character, not Nyjer the Player.  While the occasional hit (i.e. yesterday's 2 run shot) are always good and whatnot... he's just not doing well this year.

As far as Aoki goes... perhaps it's time to try out Logan Schafer in CF in a platoon with The Man (Gomez) in September?

BTW - how many trades took place today!

Nyjer is one of those guys that everybody (players, coaches, fans) love when he is doing well and the team is doing well.

When things aren't going so well, his schtick tends to annoy people. He's not the first player like this, he's not the last. Orlando Hudson seems to have the same thing going on.

Dennis Rodman is actually another extreme example. Fantastic with the Pistons and the Bulls, he became a distraction elsewhere.

Its actually too bad Nyjer didn't have a better year because a contending team would probably love to have his energy for the stretch run.

[Otule's Glass Eye]

Was watching the MLB Network, the Rangers were taking pregame BP and GM Jon Daniels was being interviewed. Interview was about Dempster acquisition but when Josh Hamilton walked past the camera and waved Daniels said "I would also like to break news on a Hamilton extension." Don't know the details of it yet.

[NavinRJohnson]

Was watching the MLB Network, the Rangers were taking pregame BP and GM Jon Daniels was being interviewed. Interview was about Dempster acquisition but when Josh Hamilton walked past the camera and waved Daniels said "I would also like to break news on a Hamilton extension." Don't know the details of it yet.

I didn't even see it and I can tell he was joking.

[Otule's Glass Eye]

I didn't even see it and I can tell he was joking.

No he wasn't.

[MU B2002]

I thought the dodgers getting League was a nice move for their pen.

[The Process]

Nyjer is one of those guys that everybody (players, coaches, fans) love when he is doing well and the team is doing well.

When things aren't going so well, his schtick tends to annoy people. He's not the first player like this, he's not the last. Orlando Hudson seems to have the same thing going on.

I'm likely in the minority here, but I like Nyjer's antics and think that he's been perhaps too... withdrawn... this year.  Maybe part of Nyjer being Nyjer is that it kept him loose enough last year to be able to focus on "tickling" that ball out of the infield for base hits.

Dennis Rodman is actually another extreme example. Fantastic with the Pistons and the Bulls, he became a distraction elsewhere.

Well, he is in the Hall of Fame because of those stretches with the Pistons and the Bulls.  He was only with other teams for 4 years total in his career (2 with San Antonio, 1 with the Lakers, and one with the Mavericks).

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

I'm likely in the minority here, but I like Nyjer's antics and think that he's been perhaps too... withdrawn... this year.  Maybe part of Nyjer being Nyjer is that it kept him loose enough last year to be able to focus on "tickling" that ball out of the infield for base hits.

Well, he is in the Hall of Fame because of those stretches with the Pistons and the Bulls.  He was only with other teams for 4 years total in his career (2 with San Antonio, 1 with the Lakers, and one with the Mavericks).

I don't dislike Nyjer's antics, but when you are under .500, some of his stuff gets a little tiresome. Do you really want him standing on second doing "beast mode" after he hits a double when they are out of the pennant race? How about when they are down 7-0? That stuff only works when you are winning a lot of games.
 
Rodman's numbers look good in S.A., but he was a HUGE distraction. Put him on another winning team (the Bulls), and suddenly his antics don't look so bad. It's an extreme example, but on winning teams, eccentric behavior is far easier to deal with.

[Lennys Tap]

I don't dislike Nyjer's antics, but when you are under .500, some of his stuff gets a little tiresome. Do you really want him standing on second doing "beast mode" after he hits a double when they are out of the pennant race? How about when they are down 7-0? That stuff only works when you are winning a lot of games.
 
Rodman's numbers look good in S.A., but he was a HUGE distraction. Put him on another winning team (the Bulls), and suddenly his antics don't look so bad. It's an extreme example, but on winning teams, eccentric behavior is far easier to deal with.

Rich/famous people are eccentric. The same behavior for the average guy means you're crazy.

[Bocephys]

No he wasn't.

And yet, I don't see anything about this 15 hours later...