Goodman thinks buzz and VT go below .500

[Celtic Truth]

@GoodmanESPN: “@JRengstorf: @GoodmanESPN  Can Buzz finish above 500 in his first year at VaTech” Nope — even though its cupcake city in non-league slate.

I agree, I think and hope that the hokies will struggle

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

[chapman]

Goodman knows his pal doesn't know how to win unless he's picked to do poorly.   

[4everwarriors]

Runnin' interference for when Bumstead finishes 5 above .500 and over achieves, aina?

[Wally Schroeder]

You don't say? I thought for sure they were instant ACC title contenders when they hired Brent and Satchel decided to join him.

Kidding aside, it would be nice to have Satchel's length on this year's team.

[jficke13]

Whenever I see a thread about Buzz or VT I classify it as trolling. It absolutely will devolve into the petty personal rivalries between posters that are ruining the board. It also has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the team that we actually are here to discuss.

So, bravo troll, bravo.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

Buzz will do well at VT.

He's a great underdog coach.

His biggest challenge will be maintaining success without burning down everybody and everything around him.

[wadesworld]

Whenever I see a thread about Buzz or VT I classify it as trolling. It absolutely will devolve into the petty personal rivalries between posters that are ruining the board. It also has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the team that we actually are here to discuss.

So, bravo troll, bravo.

There would be about 5 total posts during the offseason then.  The thread title made it clear what this thread was about.  Feel free to avoid it if it bothers you.

[jficke13]

There would be about 5 total posts during the offseason then.  The thread title made it clear what this thread was about.  Feel free to avoid it if it bothers you.

When he left, his departure was relevant to Marquette basketball. Now that he's gone, his success, failure, or otherwise has no bearing on Marquette's success or failure. I fail to see how it's relevant in anyway to board. Put it in the Superbar if you guys want to argue with Chicos about Buzz.

I guess all I have to do is wait about six years and we'll stop bringing it up every day (the Crean posts have thinned out) but instead we'll just be reading about what Wojo is doing on the recruiting trail at Duke instead.

[wadesworld]

When he left, his departure was relevant to Marquette basketball. Now that he's gone, his success, failure, or otherwise has no bearing on Marquette's success or failure. I fail to see how it's relevant in anyway to board. Put it in the Superbar if you guys want to argue with Chicos about Buzz.

I guess all I have to do is wait about six years and we'll stop bringing it up every day (the Crean posts have thinned out) but instead we'll just be reading about what Wojo is doing on the recruiting trail at Duke instead.

Again, you clicked on a thread that you clearly didn't want to see.  Your choice.  Don't complain about it.

[jficke13]

Ah yes the don't mind the spam because you don't have to click on it argument. Bulletproof.

[MUCam]

Ah yes the don't mind the spam because you don't have to click on it argument. Bulletproof.

Well at least you haven't caused this thread to devolve into some petty rivalry about whether or not you are correct in your initial assertion.

Bravo to you, counselor. Bravo.

[wadesworld]

Ah yes the don't mind the spam because you don't have to click on it argument. Bulletproof.

It says right in the thread title "buzz."  You clearly don't like reading Buzz threads.  Not hard to see and avoid it.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Just looked at their non-conference schedule. Good lord it may be the weakest schedule I have ever seen from a power conference. That being said I'm looking forward to the Buzz and DJ Newbill reunion. Think Newbill drops 30?

[jficke13]

How dare I point out that these threads add nothing to the board?

[79Warrior]

Buzz will do well at VT.

He's a great underdog coach.

His biggest challenge will be maintaining success without burning down everybody and everything around him.

He will do ok there. Buzz will have them competitive in a few years. Will he get them to challenge for an ACC banner, not so sure.

[Galway Eagle]

He will do ok there. Buzz will have them competitive in a few years. Will he get them to challenge for an ACC banner, not so sure.

Not sure about this.  That conference has true blue bloods in Duke and UNC and Cuse. Then there's already a massive crowd of good teams. I think that he might field teams that's be good in other conferences but will struggle to break through the pack in the ACC

[muarmy81]

Not sure about this.  That conference has true blue bloods in Duke and UNC and Cuse. Then there's already a massive crowd of good teams. I think that he might field teams that's be good in other conferences but will struggle to break through the pack in the ACC

Agreed.  UVA is getting better and Bennett has a head start on Buzz...in VA to boot and isn't Louisville now part of the ACC?
Duke, UNC, Cuse, UVA, Louisville.  I think Buzz will have Va Tech in the next "group" in about 3-4 years.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Agreed.  UVA is getting better and Bennett has a head start on Buzz...in VA to boot and isn't Louisville now part of the ACC?
Duke, UNC, Cuse, UVA, Louisville.  I think Buzz will have Va Tech in the next "group" in about 3-4 years.

Dont forget about Pitt too. Va Tech is in a heap of trouble.

[brandx]

Dont forget about Pitt too. Va Tech is in a heap of trouble.

Agreed. Best case scenario middle of the pack in the ACC and even that will be hard to achieve. Built schedule 10 bunnies each year and the record will look OK.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

He will do ok there. Buzz will have them competitive in a few years. Will he get them to challenge for an ACC banner, not so sure.

Right, I mean, "do well" is subjective.

VTech is traditionally a program that struggles, so getting them to the tournament 2 or 3 times out of 5 years would be doing pretty well.

[mu03eng]

@GoodmanESPN: “@JRengstorf: @GoodmanESPN  Can Buzz finish above 500 in his first year at VaTech” Nope — even though its cupcake city in non-league slate.

I agree, I think and hope that the hokies will struggle

[Golden Avalanche]

Right, I mean, "do well" is subjective.

VTech is traditionally a program that struggles, so getting them to the tournament 2 or 3 times out of 5 years would be doing pretty well.

This.

And it's the only reason Buzz took the job. He gets to leave a place that wouldn't let him do whatever he wanted any more for a place that will be overjoyed with the prospect of a 20-12 campaign that nets them an 11 seed twice in his five seasons at the helm.

[MU B2002]

[source?]

Whenever I see a thread about Buzz or VT I classify it as trolling. It absolutely will devolve into the petty personal rivalries between posters that are ruining the board. It also has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the team that we actually are here to discuss.

So, bravo troll, bravo.

Lawyers. Always gotta be cynics.

[Dawson Rental]

And remember, death is not an option.

Virginia Tech vs. Notre Dame

[4everwarriors]

Put IU in the equation and the choice is easier, hey?

[NotBuzzWilliams]

At some point, you have to make a transition from believer of the dream to buyer of the dream. No dream comes true w/o somebody paying for it.

[tower912]

Has anyone actually predicted that VT goes OVER .500?

[Newsdreams]

When he left, his departure was relevant to Marquette basketball. Now that he's gone, his success, failure, or otherwise has no bearing on Marquette's success or failure. I fail to see how it's relevant in anyway to board. Put it in the Superbar if you guys want to argue with Chicos about Buzz.

I guess all I have to do is wait about six years and we'll stop bringing it up every day (the Crean posts have thinned out) but instead we'll just be reading about what Wojo is doing on the recruiting trail at Duke instead.

TC $ucks!

[Wally Schroeder]

Has anyone actually predicted that VT goes OVER .500?

February 2011 - after VA Tech upset # 1 Duke, Dickie V. predicted they'd win the ACC tournament handily and go on to win the NCAA Tournament in dominating fashion, finishing well above .500. But alas, it wasn't meant to be. Instead they advanced to the NIT where the they ran into the Wichita State Shockers, who upended the Hokies in the second round. The program had been in a downward spiral even since, until that fateful day in March when their savior was announced.

[mu_hilltopper]

@GoodmanESPN: “@JRengstorf: @GoodmanESPN  Can Buzz finish above 500 in his first year at VaTech” Nope — even though its cupcake city in non-league slate.

I agree, I think and hope that the hokies will struggle

You know who LOVES this tweet?  Coach Bert Williams.   Terrible expectations are precisely what he wants.  Then he goes .500 and wins a couple big games and whammo, he's an f'ing genius again.

And ..

Again, you clicked on a thread that you clearly didn't want to see.  Your choice.  Don't complain about it.

+100000.  Why do people do this?   I mean, on a UW board they have time between filling the fry machine and flipping the nuggets, but here?   Please tell us you have something better to do than take time out of your day to post how you'd rather not see this thread after clicking on it.

[Texas Western]

When he left, his departure was relevant to Marquette basketball. Now that he's gone, his success, failure, or otherwise has no bearing on Marquette's success or failure. I fail to see how it's relevant in anyway to board. Put it in the Superbar if you guys want to argue with Chicos about Buzz.

I guess all I have to do is wait about six years and we'll stop bringing it up every day (the Crean posts have thinned out) but instead we'll just be reading about what Wojo is doing on the recruiting trail at Duke instead.

I want to see all alumni of our program do well. coaches and players . Even though I was disappointed at what Buzz devolved to last year, would still like to see an ex coach fate well.

[ChicosBailBonds]

I want to see all alumni of our program do well. coaches and players . Even though I was disappointed at what Buzz devolved to last year, would still like to see an ex coach fate well.

+1.

[Spotcheck Billy]

I want to see all alumni of our program do well. coaches and players . Even though I was disappointed at what Buzz devolved to last year, would still like to see an ex coach fate well.

-1

[warriorchick]

You know who LOVES this tweet?  Coach Bert Williams.   Terrible expectations are precisely what he wants.  Then he goes .500 and wins a couple big games and whammo, he's an f'ing genius again.

And ..
+100000.  Why do people do this?   I mean, on a UW board they have time between filling the fry machine and flipping the nuggets, but here?   Please tell us you have something better to do than take time out of your day to post how you'd rather not see this thread after clicking on it.

Flipping the nuggets?

[wadesworld]

-1

+1.  Depends who it is.

[Lennys Tap]

+1.

Finally a genuinely funny post.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Finally a genuinely funny post.

I said when Buzz left and I stand by it, he will do well at Va. Tech and I wish him the best.  Va Tech will allow him to be "creative" that he wasn't going to get away with here any longer.  The jilted love actions here about a prior coach leaving, no thanks.  I'm more concerned about what he did at MU, the good and the bad....Buzz did some really good things here and he also did some crap that I and others are not happy with.  It is what it is.  He isn't here any longer, he'll do fine down South.

[Lennys Tap]

I said when Buzz left and I stand by it, he will do well at Va. Tech and I wish him the best.  Va Tech will allow him to be "creative" that he wasn't going to get away with here any longer.  The jilted love actions here about a prior coach leaving, no thanks.  I'm more concerned about what he did at MU, the good and the bad....Buzz did some really good things here and he also did some crap that I and others are not happy with.  It is what it is.  He isn't here any longer, he'll do fine down South.

For a guy who wasn't wild about Buzz from the start this is a fair post. This is "good Chico" talking, and you have certainly said these things. Sadly, the vast majority of your posts on the topic have been made by "bad Chico" - have your guy do an audit.

[seakm4]

Jay Cutler is...right?!?!?!?  My brain hurts.