Oso planning to go pro
This was just explained in multiple other posts.
If you can explain to me how not allowing fisherman on lakes in boats with motors would have saved any of those lives I’ll gladly change my opinion. I don’t think the two have anything to do with one another.
Yes we do. We also know that people will catch this no matter what we do. We need a system to detect spread and immunity, methods to slow it down, and mechanisms to ensure our hospital system doesn't get overwhelmed.While I dont agree with the decision to hold an election, we can learn that maybe there is somewhere in between lock it down and the old days utilizing a better system once the virus is in control in some places.
Dumb explanations for a dumb policy.
Exposing the general public to the realities of the virus and what people are dealing with to fight it may reframe the discussion around what's important, and maybe even introduce the protestors to a little perspective. That's definitely helpful.
Isn't a pretty simple solution to this problem saying that no more than two people in a boat and they must be immediate family members? Anyone caught with any sort of flotilla godzilla situation will be fined heavily, have their fishing license revoked, and boat registration suspended for 3 years?Look, people are going to do stupid things no matter what. Better to incentivize them to not do stupid things, but allow them to do reasonable things. Like fish in a motor boat with another person from their family. Which is perfectly safe.
But that's not what she is trying to do. She is trying to shame those who are upset about the restrictions. Using phrases like "first world problems" is going to cause people to roll their eyes, not change their behavior. Because as Lenny pointed out, unless those cases are linked in some ways to boating or to a second home, it's not all that relevant to what people are upset about.
Do you really believe boating restrictions and the inability to buy paint at Lowe's are what is motivating these protests?
I can make the case governor Gretchen has gone a little too far in small specific instances and has as yet shown a lack of flexibility. You wanna argue for motorised fishing boats? Ok. Landscaping, construction? Reasonable arguments. But nobody is going to her with reasonable arguments.
Tell her that then. She was the one who brought the protestors up in the first place.I simply think that telling the guy who is frustrated that he can't go fishing, but not proteting about it, isn't going to be persuaded by someone preaching at him that he has "first world problems."
That sounds perfectly reasonable, but also difficult/impossible to enforce. I have to imagine law enforcement has more pressing things to do right now than count people on boats or ask for IDs to make sure they're co-habitating family members.
Well, they're certainly still out trying to catch speeders, so I imagine they have some time on their hands. Very expensive penalties make it worth their time.Tie a reward for reporting violators, or add security cameras to boat landings. They'd be good to have anyway, and I'd be willing to bet they already exist in some of the more busy launches already. Someone sees something, reports it, and footage can be brought up.
The problem is there are a lot out there with nothing better to do than report people. Leading to a lot of wasted time and resources. An example, a gym owner I know was reported twice, and police had to come out and investigate, for him personally going to his gym to get files. People saying the gym was open. Bottom line, there is no perfect solution.
And if the best scientific minds in the world aren't going to persuade those people to behave better, I'm not sure why you would place the onus on a frustrated nurse.
It's pretty amazing that people are ripping a post from an overworked and overwhelmed nurse, just because they can't go out on their boats.Plenty of rational explanations have been given for the bans, and you can agree with them or not, because there is no answer that will make everyone happy. But criticizing a post from an overwhelmed nurse who is frantically trying to save lives? Just pathetic.
I'm not placing the onus on her. I said that posts like hers aren't helpful for futhering discussion.
Who is doing that?