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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: real chili 83 on December 07, 2013, 01:11:31 PM
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Tough one ahead.
Go Warriors!!!!
Suite 112b
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the game starting on time?
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Looks like it will start on time.
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Chatroom is up... (http://www.muscoop.com/chat/flashchat.php)
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Pray the starters keep us in it early
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Well, the good news, Buzz will be in a cold sweat today.
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Wtf is wrong with Chris.
Such a idiot.
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This is going to get ugly.
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Chris made up for it.
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Nice play by Chris. And one.
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Dumb Jamil foul bailed UW out there.
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Another stupid Jamil foul.
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Almost every game, JWil gets a couple of nice early short jumpers. Gotta keep that up the whole game.
And Burr. Crap.
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Davante still sick?
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Tough one ahead.
Go Warriors!!!!
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Livin' the high life, Chili?
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Davante still sick?
His defense sure is.
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http://www.muscoop.com/chat/flashchat.php
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Davante still sick?
Doesn't help when Jake "feeds him in the post" moving away from the basket toward the 3 point line w 8 seconds on the clock.
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DG doesn't look all that intense...didn't fight for a whole lot of position on that first offensive set...Hayes has a big body that can hang with DG
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Davante looked like he twisted his ankle a few minutes ago.
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Like the commentary on the rivalry
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Derrick has got to set something up. This is horrible.
foul every time too. Jesus.
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Gotta get Deonte outta there.
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We have 5 fouls alredy!!
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Nice steal by Jajuan which caused a foul.
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We have 5 fouls alredy!!
Make it six.
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Where the F U C K
is Todd
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Crap call by a crap ref...Gasser moving all the way.
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Davante and one.
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Five fouls to one...typical Badger home crap
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Ox and 1!!!
this might be our best lineup option.
Gives us a clear rebounding advantage and we need some sort of advantage.
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Finally!!!
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Five fouls to one...typical Badger home crap
I think its 6-3 but yeah our have been suspect at least.
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Where the F U C K
is Todd
Good question....just don't get it....think Buzz plays too many head games with Todd. Let the kid play and let his talent shine...I mean did Jake Thomas accomplish 1 thing in his 6 minutes of PT??
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I think its 6-3 but yeah our have been suspect at least.
Correct
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Good question....just don't get it....think Buzz plays too many head games with Todd. Let the kid play and let his talent shine...I mean did Jake Thomas accomplish 1 thing in his 6 minutes of PT??
he picked up a foul. Which may get todd a little closer to seeing the floor. Need about 2 more this half though lol
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Glenn Frey would not be happy with these conditions.
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Pics
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jeeeeeeeeeeeez another foul.
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Good question....just don't get it....think Buzz plays too many head games with Todd. Let the kid play and let his talent shine...I mean did Jake Thomas accomplish 1 thing in his 6 minutes of PT??
Maybe nose injury from last game? Anyone nows?
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These foul calls are getting a little out of hand....
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Fouls a bit ridiculous at this point. Got to love playing in Madison.
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Dawson in before Todd...and he is suited up.
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Dawson got in ahead of Mayo?
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We're already racking up the fouls in the Kohl as per usual.
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Chris don't throw a rocket at the rim from two feet away.
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Missing bunnies again!
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I think Dekker will be bald at 25
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Can't stop Davante.
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Chris is just a detriment to this basketball team.
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Don't F'n get why Buzz hasn't played Todd...if they lose this game because of it...
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Come on Otule
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Hold the Mayo.
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Don't F'n get why Buzz hasn't played Todd...if they lose this game because of it...
I'm guessing Buzz is revealing Todd's character
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They are not calling touch fouls away from the basket on both teams...only us.
Gardner was hacked on an and 1 and no call.
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Don't F'n get why Buzz hasn't played Todd...if they lose this game because of it...
Gonna have to make a wild guess and say Todd must have broken a team rule...
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Burton proving to be a liability on D
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Absolutely ZERO reason for the Freshman playing before Todd. Buzz, quit messing with the kids head. And why is Burton on Dekker?? C'mon Buzz, pull your head out of your a$$ today. This game is too important to be "teaching lessons", or whatever the hell you have going on with Todd.
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offense struggles mightily - buzz installed an offense yet?
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Don't F'n get why Buzz hasn't played Todd...if they lose this game because of it...
You may not. I suspect Buzz does.
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They are not calling touch fouls away from the basket on both teams...only us.
Gardner was hacked on an and 1 and no call.
I saw that as well. Gasser was all over him.
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Deonte is just not good defensively.
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Derrick doesn't even hint at shootin'. Just don't see how you can win with him as your startin' point.
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Absolutely ZERO reason for the Freshman playing before Todd. Buzz, quit messing with the kids head. And why is Burton on Dekker?? C'mon Buzz, pull your head out of your a$$ today. This game is too important to be "teaching lessons", or whatever the hell you have going on with Todd.
Have you ever wondered why Todd needs so many lessons taught through so many years. Hmmmm
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Otule can't do much right lately, his minutes should be cut down.
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Ox saves his ass again.
Dawson playing the 2?
Bullcrap bounce for Decker.
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Chris just needs to jam the mf'er
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What has Derrick Wilson accomplished thus far this game?
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wtf derrick
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Our dynamic starting backcourt off to another wonderful start...Just pure garbage from those 2 clowns
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Gardner on Dekker is a really bad match up. 10 points already.
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You may not. I suspect Buzz does.
Unless he's injured(which he's not), than there is NO logical explanation for keeping him on the bench. You play to win the game Buzz, not teach someone a lesson. You already have 3 non conf losses, how many more do you want to endure before the season is in real danger(if it's not already).
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Ox saves his ass again.
Dawson playing the 2?
Bullcrap bounce for Decker.
Seems so- for about 30 seconds
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Otule can't do much right lately, his minutes should be cut down.
Worried about our presence at center next year after Oxtule are gone (mainly Gardner). Pierce will be counted on but, but he'll only be a freshman.
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Gardner on Dekker is a really bad match up. 10 points already.
+1, but when Ox and Chris are in at the same time, the options are limited
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What is with the Todd Mayo ordeal? Is he that bad off the court or is Buzz just have it out for the kid?
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Ever get the feeling that if Jake Thomas played for the Badgers he'd hit 8 three pointers against us and foul out our starting backcourt on charge calls?
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Unless he's injured(which he's not), than there is NO logical explanation for keeping him on the bench. You play to win the game Buzz, not teach someone a lesson. You already have 3 non conf losses, how many more do you want to endure before the season is in real danger(if it's not already).
Did you not watch MU vs UW madison two years ago? Buzz taught Junior a lesson and we won the game. H was playing to win the game then and got his message across.
I'll ask again, why is it that Todd needs so much lesson learning?
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was Thomas miss 3 the only one weve even attempted?
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Have you ever wondered why Todd needs so many lessons taught through so many years. Hmmmm
Does Buzz care about winning?? Does he care their season is on the brink??
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Well, we just got our answer: JWil apparently is the leader of the team
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What? The Badgers got a foul? What madness say the Badger fans.
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was Thomas miss 3 the only one weve even attempted?
Yes
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Does Buzz care about winning?? Does he care their season is on the brink??
Good grief.
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We can't shoot 3s(not even trying to this game)
we should just play big and get them in foul trouble.
Double foul? wtf.
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WTF was that call Burr, you old senile bastard??
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Burr is terrible.
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unnatural carnal knowledgein burr
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Lol Anderson was all over Gardner there, what is he supposed to do?
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Jim Burr brought his own rule book again. Outrageous call.
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Does Buzz care about winning?? Does he care their season is on the brink??
Think about what you just said
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Burr
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That was bad even by Jim Burr standards.
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double foul and then a flop.
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I don't care if Burton struggles defensively....the guy needs major minutes..
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Why do i have to watch Jim Burr reff year after year...
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The NCAA has a wholly negative effect on the sports that they govern. Basketball is so much worse now.
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I don't care if Burton struggles defensively....the guy needs major minutes..
Idk how people can say 1 guy really struggle on D right now.
It's offense where you can truly see who struggles and who doesn't.
Defense is not losing us games.
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Utter, utter bullsh*t reffing
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I don't care if Burton struggles defensively....the guy needs major minutes..
He is so strong and a great offensive presence. Defense needs work but it should come in time. Looking forward to watching him develop.
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was Thomas miss 3 the only one weve even attempted?
Yes our offense is not really set up to provide 3 point opportunities. Get the ball to the post and isolate that side...no kickouts.
Dribbling is largely east to west with no picks to free up shooters. You are not going to get many 3 pt opportunities in that type of setup.
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Think about what you just said
What's to think about?? You play your best players. Period. Because, well...those players give you the best chance of winning. Teach Todd a lesson(or whatever the hell he's doing) in practice next week. That's what Pitino and many others would do. I will say it again...they already have 3 non conference losses, how many more can they endure before they get to BE season, and it becomes virtually moot(without a BE tourney title).
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Todd Mayo?
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Chris perfect from the line!!!1
lottery time!!!
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leet?
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Jim Burr is the biggest douche bag ref in the world. Never saw a double foul in that situation. Burr has a woody for Gardner.
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Despite all the fouls we're only down two, which I'm happy about.
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Brust didn't walk not that rebound?
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Todd just clapped for Otule...Todd just clapped!!!!
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Derrick's last foul would have been a T on Gasser in the NBA for flopping
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Yes our offense is not really set up to provide 3 point opportunities. Get the ball to the post and isolate that side...no kickouts.
Dribbling is largely east to west with no picks to free up shooters. You are not going to get many 3 pt opportunities in that type of setup.
yeah we cant shoot 3s so its not a bad thing. I just think if we are going to go with this approach we should play big. I know foul trouble righ tnow hurts that but next half go back to Ox, Juan, Chris, Jamil and Derrick.
rack up fouls and get every board. We wont outshoot/score these guys
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If we didn't have Ox we would not break 30. Hell we may not anyway.
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My problem with this team is some of the most talented players on the team don't play that much. Mayo, Burton, and Johnson. Yes there might be some times where you scratch your head at their defense but with them playing now we will be a better team come Tourny time. The ceiling with playing Wilson, Thomas, and Otule can only go so high.
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What's to think about?? You play your best players. Period. Because, well...those players give you the best chance of winning. Teach Todd a lesson(or whatever the hell he's doing) in practice next week. That's what Pitino and many others would do. I will say it again...they already have 3 non conference losses, how many more can they endure before they get to BE season, and it becomes virtually moot(without a BE tourney title).
LOL! Teach him a lesson in practice? Really?
Why is he not playing? Oh that's right, you don't have the first damn clue.
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NEED to get defensive rebounds.
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Gasser's been acting like a punk all game...bowing up after contact etc..
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What's to think about?? You play your best players. Period. Because, well...those players give you the best chance of winning. Teach Todd a lesson(or whatever the hell he's doing) in practice next week. That's what Pitino and many others would do. I will say it again...they already have 3 non conference losses, how many more can they endure before they get to BE season, and it becomes virtually moot(without a BE tourney title).
Just win baby, nothing else matters. This is part of what I absolutely LOVE about Buzz. Do you really learn a lesson in practice....especially from someone that repeated doesn't learn them very well.
Again, think about what you are saying.
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Terrible guard play. Do we not have a guard that can create/make his shot. Jake Thomas adds nothing. Might as well try mayo.
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Getting their big men in foul trouble so far.
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We all are fans and all think the refs suck...but every ridiculous foul call unusually involves Jim Burr. Worst kind of official in that he anticipates and makes things up...and then calls the game uneven.
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Good D in first half. Terrible offense except OX.
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How is that not a charge on Gossard?
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lets go Jamil. We need you man.
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Jamil getting hot at the end here.
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Good D in first half. Terrible offense except OX.
And JWil
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Burton is a stud taking it to the hole.
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Sick dunk from Dekker.
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And who let him right past? Burton.
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Second half our goal should be more fouls on Hayes and Kaminsky.
That Anderson guys I god awful.
Makes our Anderson look like LeBron.
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Sick dunk from Dekker.
And how was that dunk created? Koenig got a step on Derrick Wilson, drew help, and created lane for Dekker.
What I wouldn't give for Derrick to be able to do that on the offensive end. Koenig is outplaying Derrick...
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Damn. Good look for Jamil.
Alright, can't be pissed about down 3.
But man offense needs some help nd Ox cant get in foul trouble.
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Jim Burr is the biggest douche bag ref in the world. Never saw a double foul in that situation. Burr has a woody for Gardner.
why do we always get this d-bag?? he's gotta be an atheist
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My guess is we see Mayo in the second half.
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Rebound better in the second half and we win this one.
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Gasser's been acting like a punk all game...bowing up after contact etc..
gasser is a punk.
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So why all the drama on Buzz's teams? Mayo not playing this game, always something...
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My guess is we see Mayo in the second half.
We will
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Just win baby, nothing else matters. This is part of what I absolutely LOVE about Buzz. Do you really learn a lesson in practice....especially from someone that repeated doesn't learn them very well.
Again, think about what you are saying.
And how do you know he's teaching him a lesson?? None of us know why he hasn't played. Until we get some confirmation of something, one can only ASSUME He's just F'n with Todd, because he feels like it. It wouldn't be fair to speculate otherwise.
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Anyone know what MU's record is in games officiated by Jim Burr? Have we ever won, or does he usually succeed?
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Typical end of first half. Buzz takes time out. Buzz draws up play. Team does not convert. Have seen that dozens of times. Is it the play or the players?
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gasser is a punk.
I don't think he's a punk as much as he's just a whiny b*tch
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MU has no chance unless the refs loosen things up a little.
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Halftime: MU guards have taken and missed only three shots. Dekker with slightly less than half of UW's points. MU outrebounded, and UW has more offensive rebounds, something they don't usually stress. UW doesn't have to worry about getting back for fast break points.
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Damn. Good look for Jamil.
Alright, can't be pissed about down 3.
But man offense needs some help nd Ox cant get in foul trouble.
We have no offense except Ox. Buzz has not installed one yet.
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So why all the drama on Buzz's teams? Mayo not playing this game, always something...
I don't understand the hand wringing over Mayo. Play him or don't play him...makes
No difference. He's never been a game Changing guy and he never will be. Who cares?
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I hope Mayo gets in. The starting backcourt for MU in first half:
0 points, 0 rebounds, 0 assists, 0 steals, 0 for 3 from field. That is just amazing........, but only one turnover.
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Man, our guard play sucks big time. Wilson and Jake are offensive scoring liabilities.
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And how do you know he's teaching him a lesson?? None of us know why he hasn't played. Until we get some confirmation of something, one can only ASSUME He's just F'n with Todd, because he feels like it. It wouldn't be fair to speculate otherwise.
Guru, we have history as our guide. How often does Buzz not play players that normally play? When he does sit them, the reason is always because of something the player did or didn't do. Whether it was Vander, or Junior, or Mayo, or whomever in the past, that has been the case.
If Todd plays in the second half, do you think he didn't play merely to rest him? I don't.
What's more concerning to me is the attitude of win at all costs, teach a player a lesson in practice. That's what corrupt programs do. No thanks.
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I second the gasser (rhymes with asser) is a whiny bitch post...
I don't think he's a punk as much as he's just a whiny b*tch
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Offense is slow and predictable! I can't believe we have no one better than Jake Thomas.I hate Becky!!
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And how do you know he's teaching him a lesson?? None of us know why he hasn't played. Until we get some confirmation of something, one can only ASSUME He's just F'n with Todd, because he feels like it. It wouldn't be fair to speculate otherwise.
Really? It's fair to ASSUME that Buzz is "F'n with Todd, because he feels like it," but its unfair to speculate otherwise.
You said it, none of us knows, yet you claim that you do. Seriously, how drunk are you?
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Typical end of first half. Buzz takes time out. Buzz draws up play. Team does not convert. Have seen that dozens of times. Is it the play or the players?
Well, in that case it was not the play. JWil had a great look at a 3. Btw, Juan did a nice job avoiding his 3d foul on the rebound chance.
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i guess it does not matter if our second leading scorer does not play?
I don't understand the hand wringing over Mayo. Play him or don't play him...makes
No difference. He's never been a game Changing guy and he never will be. Who cares?
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I hope Mayo gets in. The starting backcourt for MU in first half:
0 points, 0 rebounds, 0 assists, 0 steals, 0 for 3 from field. That is just amazing........, but only one turnover.
I guess we should be happy with the one TO. But we need some scoring from somebody beside Ox.
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Typical end of first half. Buzz takes time out. Buzz draws up play. Team does not convert. Have seen that dozens of times. Is it the play or the players?
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What was wrong with the play. Good look by Wilson, just missed the shot. They don't all go in, but no issue with that play.
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I don't understand the hand wringing over Mayo. Play him or don't play him...makes
No difference. He's never been a game Changing guy and he never will be. Who cares?
This.
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I get frustrated with Derrick's lack of offense, but, in fairness....we only have 3 turnovers this half which is outstanding. Of course, that may be due to a real lack of creating shot opportunities (and hence a safe offense), but it is not like he is throwing it all over the place.
Jake needs less minutes as he is having a difficult time even finding spacing for a semi-open 3.
JWill needs to be the leader like Dekker is the leader for UW...keep stepping it up in the 2nd half!
Ox needs to punch Burr in the head, knock him out of the game so Ox doesn't foul out in the first 4 minutes of the second half. Burr is an absolute joke...an embarrassment that the NCAA keeps him active. WTF is a double foul in that situation???
Bo Grinch face needs to keep playing Evan Anderson...thank you!
Keep playing great defense and get on the boards (Juan getting back in may help that) and we need JWill to be hot, Ox to get his looks and one other person to step up on offense...I don't care or predict who...and we can win this one.
No Steve Taylor...interesting
No Mayo...something obviously up and if the pattern continues I wonder if he will even finish the year with us...
Let's go Warriors....there is not question we can play with this team!
btw, out of curiousity....what was the spread today?
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Man, our guard play sucks big time. Wilson and Jake are offensive scoring liabilities.
We will go as far as our guards take us
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Man, our guard play sucks big time. Wilson and Jake are offensive scoring liabilities.
At least Mayo's playing well.
But hey, we need to recruit some bigs, no?
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Guru, we have history as our guide. How often does Buzz not play players that normally play? When he does sit them, the reason is always because of something the player did or didn't do. Whether it was Vander, or Junior, or Mayo, or whomever in the past, that has been the case.
If Todd plays in the second half, do you think he didn't play merely to rest him? I don't.
What's more concerning to me is the attitude of win at all costs, teach a player a lesson in practice. That's what corrupt programs do. No thanks.
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+1. As frustrating as it is at the time, the team and the individual players and the university are much better off. (Still not knowing the reason in this case, which could even be a pre game injury that buzz doesn't want to disclose to Bo)
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statistically, some one please show me a worse back court in the NCAA...
cue the "wilson is great, quit hating on him crowd"
cue the "if marquette had a 2G who could shoot, it would not matter that Wilson has zero offensive ability crowd"
Man, our guard play sucks big time. Wilson and Jake are offensive scoring liabilities.
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I would like to see Duane Wilson back. He could be a major boost to our backcourt. Even without him I would like to see Dawson or Mayo to take minutes away from Jake Thomas/Derrick Wilson. I'm sure both are great kids, but they don't create or attack. Our guards have to do that for us to be successful. Once again, our starting guards are 0-3 from the floor (with guys daring Derrick to shoot) with 1 turnover, 3 fouls, 0 assists, and 0 points. Too big of void to consistently overcome.
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And two of those turnovers were flops. MU in good shape...cold temperature a factor for the shooters.
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We will go as far as our guards take us
This assumes we have guards, period.
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Jamil needs to guard Dekker in the 2nd half.. he did a pretty decent job on him to start the game off
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Chili, I hope your suite is warm. You get the dessert cart yet?
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statistically, some one please show me a worse back court in the NCAA...
cue the "wilson is great, quit hating on him crowd"
cue the "if marquette had a 2G who could shoot, it would not matter that Wilson has zero offensive ability crowd"
It's impossible. The way some people defend them on here is just gross.
They are not bad role players. But should not play basketball together at all. I like Derrick out there with Jamil, Ox, Juan and Chris today. Or if we go a little smaller someone like JJJ or todd.
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Jamil needs to guard Dekker in the 2nd half.. he did a pretty decent job on him to start the game off
Agreed - but it depends on other match-ups b/c if Ox and Chris are in and Bucky is small! those guys have to guard someone...
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Jamil needs to guard Dekker in the 2nd half.. he did a pretty decent job on him to start the game off
Don't know about that, he has 2 fouls an early 3rd foul in 2nd half would be really bad.
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violation of team rules.
wow
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Mayo violated team rules. Out today per Lance Allen tweet.
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mayo=violation of team rules?? wtf!!
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Wow no Mayo!!
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Chris just sucks. Don't even try feeding him
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Great, so teach him his lesson next game when you should win without him anyway.
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It's impossible. The way some people defend them on here is just gross.
They are not bad role players. But should not play basketball together at all. I like Derrick out there with Jamil, Ox, Juan and Chris today. Or if we go a little smaller someone like JJJ or todd.
Wait till next year with no J. Wilson, Gardner, Otule and probably Mayo. Oh boy.......
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rule #1-don't violate team rules!!
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Enough strikes for mayo. What a douche get him off campus
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Wait till next year with no J. Wilson, Gardner, Otule and probably Mayo. Oh boy.......
Jake will be gone too.
Here comes the rout. This unit just SUCKS.
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I dk what Mayo did so can't jump to conclusions but he should of transferred. Buzz is ruining this kids chance at playing college ball.
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Nice pass off the glass by D Wilson to Otule
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Great, so teach him his lesson next game when you should win without him anyway.
Hilarious.
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keep trotting out you "starting" lineup buzz. it's working so well...
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I dk what Mayo did so can't jump to conclusions but he should of transferred. Buzz is ruining this kids chance at playing college ball.
That is outrageous. Personal responsibility.
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And how do you know he's teaching him a lesson?? None of us know why he hasn't played. Until we get some confirmation of something, one can only ASSUME He's just F'n with Todd, because he feels like it. It wouldn't be fair to speculate otherwise.
I don't see how it is unfair to speculate. We are basing it on his past actions.
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How many chances are you gonna give the guy? Doesn't matter how big of a violation it is.... this has happened time after time after time.... eventually the kid has gotta be on his last strike you would think.
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I dk what Mayo did so can't jump to conclusions but he should of transferred. Buzz is ruining this kids chance at playing college ball.
Yeah, cause Buzz is the one that keeps making him violate team rules.
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keep trotting out you "starting" lineup buzz. it's working so well...
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It is getting a bit silly.
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I dk what Mayo did so can't jump to conclusions but he should of transferred. Buzz is ruining this kids chance at playing college ball.
By enforcing team rules, Buzz is ruining his chance? Makes sense.
Starting to recall why I avoid these game threads.
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This assumes we have guards, period.
good point
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DE. Wilson throws up a brick layup, Kaminsky schools Otule who is allegedly a great defender (when he is guarding guys 4" shorter than him) and we are down 8. Game over.
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They don't look like they want to be there, just going thru the motions.
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Hilarious.
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Mayo violated team rules. Out today per Lance Allen tweet.
Amazing how many times certain people have to keep having a lesson taught...again....again....again.
Good for Buzz
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Jake Thomas ?
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Anyone know what MU's record is in games officiated by Jim Burr? Have we ever won, or does he usually succeed?
I looked at the past 4 seasons, plus this year, and we're 11-10 over that time:
11/16/13 Ohio State L 35-52
03/14/13 vs Notre Dame L 65-73 (BET)
03/05/13 at Rutgers W 60-54
01/16/13 Seton Hall W 69-62
12/08/12 Wisconsin W 60-50
02/24/12 at West Virginia W 61-60
02/04/12 at Notre Dame L 59-76
01/21/12 at Providence W 79-72
01/01/12 Villanova W 81-77
11/28/11 Jacksonville W 88-56
02/27/11 Providence W 86-62
02/09/11 at South Florida W 59-58
01/01/11 West Virginia W 79-74
12/29/10 at Vanderbilt L 76-77
12/18/10 Centenary W 81-52
03/12/10 vs Georgetown L 57-80 (BET)
03/06/10 Notre Dame L 60-63
01/23/10 at Syracuse L 71-76
12/29/09 at West Virginia L 62-63
12/05/09 NC State L 73-77
11/29/09 vs Florida State L 56-57 (Old Spice)
For reference, we are 102-47 since 09-10. 11-10 with Burr officiating, 91-37 without him. Most of our 11 wins are against cupcakes or low-level BE teams (Centenary, USF, Providence, Jacksonville, Seton Hall, Rutgers).
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If it was major, Todd would be suspended. Never-the-less, wake up Todd.
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De. Wilson and Thomas are studs. Both will shine in the NBA.
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lol Brust trying to dunk....that was priceless
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Amazing how many times certain people have to keep having a lesson taught...again....again....again.
Good for Buzz
Seventy X Seven
It's in the Bible
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We just suck.
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Yeah because unlike you apparently, I am NOT at all thrilled about watching a non NCAA team because they have already endured too many losses in the non conference. So many expectations, and so many high hopes for this team by EVERYONE(pre season BE champs), and already 5-4. Good job MU.
All Mayo has to do is what is required/expected of him, and he'll be on the floor. You are ridiculous.
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Feel like I'm watching the Packers without Rodgers
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They called that foul on Jake? But no calls on the hits Gardner takes downlow?
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Great, so teach him his lesson next game when you should win without him anyway.
It appears Buzz has some character on this. Why does this bother you?
JUST WIN BABY....at all costs. ::)
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game ste match with the Polish dunk.
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This is so bad that UW actually looks athletic against us.
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Did they really also call a foul there? Ridiculous if so.
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WTF was that. Why did none of our guys go after the loose ball after the missed dunk? And come on, that was a foul on Jake?
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Amazing how many times certain people have to keep having a lesson taught...again....again....again.
Good for Buzz
Yeah, good for Buzz. The lesson sure is working.
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I dk what Mayo did so can't jump to conclusions but he should of transferred. Buzz is ruining this kids chance at playing college ball.
It couldn't be that the kid is ruining his own chances...right....it's all on Buzz?
Seems to me things don't fall far from the Mayo family tree.
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3 fouls on Jake!!!!!!!
Party time!!!!
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No hustle from our players to get that rebound.
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See you all next year. Never have wanted a season to be over so quickly before. NCAA streak over. may be lucky to finish .500. pathetic.
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Does S. Taylor suck too?
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Over.
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rule #1-don't violate team rules!!
Rule #1 is never underestimate your opponent. Expect the unexpected.
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See you all next year. Never have wanted a season to be over so quickly before. NCAA streak over. may be lucky to finish .500. pathetic.
Is that a promise, or is this just more crap like you've been spewing all afternoon?
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It couldn't be that the kid is ruining his own chances...right....it's all on Buzz?
Seems to me things don't fall far from the Mayo family tree.
Not at all, I just find it hard for this kid to mess up so much cause I wanted him to be good. I believe Buzz is more strict than other coaches with his rules (just speculation) so if he went some where else I think he would be playing a lot more.
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horse crap team this year - is the coach, recrutiing or the players?
See you all next year. Never have wanted a season to be over so quickly before. NCAA streak over. may be lucky to finish .500. pathetic.
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How many chances is Buzzard going to give Mayo? My God, if the kid doesn't "get it" by now, get rid of him.
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Otule's putbacks are pitiful.
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I'm not a big fan of Buzz's shirt.
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OMG Thomas just get hurt already.
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We have better talent than the Rodents. Bo Ryan can outcoach Buzzbo in his sleep. No doubt!!!
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This team's body language is horrible.
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Yeah, good for Buzz. The lesson sure is working.
Remember, lessons are taught just for the benefit of one person. If it opens up the eyes of the rest of the team, then lessons are taught as well.
As far as Mayo, well some people don't learn too well. I'm wondering if it is a Mayo family trait. I can tell you a lot of USC fans that would say the same thing. The good news is the elder Mayo is in town to keep the younger Mayo in check. Fox, henhouse insert here.
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Please just take Otule out now.
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horse crap team this year - is the coach, recrutiing or the players?
The Coach. Buzz is way overrated,
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OMG Thomas just get hurt already.
Well, him and D. Will still scoreless. Try someone else.
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Have we run a fast break this year?
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Yes!! At the 12 minute mark of the 2nd half our starting backcourt has finally scored!!
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We have better talent than the Rodents.
Simply not true. Read up and down this thread to see how bad Derrik Wilson, COT, and Jake Thomas are. Madison every bit as talented as MU. There's one NBA player in this game, and he's wearing white.
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We have better talent than the Rodents. Bo Ryan can outcoach Buzzbo in his sleep. No doubt!!!
What a douche
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Go to a full court trap...turn them over and try to fight back into this one.
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Did you just hear that? Our starting PG is 12-22 this year on free throws lol
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Not at all, I just find it hard for this kid to mess up so much cause I wanted him to be good. I believe Buzz is more strict than other coaches with his rules (just speculation) so if he went some where else I think he would be playing a lot more.
Well, it appears the other guys get it and he doesn't. I look for the commonality here the commonality is that he just doesn't get it.
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I don't know if I can watch anymore.
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Defensive rebounding becoming a problem
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The Coach. Buzz is way overrated,
Arrrggggghhhh
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Woof
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OMG Thomas just get hurt already.
Post something valuable for once
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Man it's hard watching Otule play center
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so how many think we are still building to the excellent "post season"
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The Coach. Buzz is way overrated,
finally someone said it!! Yes Buzz is definitely overrated
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Burton getting abused by Decker...This is a better badger team than I have seen for awhile in terms of athleticism and talent.
Jamil came to play today, he looks solid. I'm really disappointed in our lack of rebounding...so many second chances for the badgers.
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This is over, at least play our freshmen and steve taylor
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everyone chill out. Wisconsin is the better team this year. We need a better point guard. If we make this competitive, I'll be happy
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Are some of you seriously surprised that MU is losing to a Top 10 team in a place they 'never' lose?
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Wow Wisconsin is more athletic than us
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Well, it appears the other guys get it and he doesn't. I look for the commonality here the commonality is that he just doesn't get it.
So the other guys "get it". A lot of good it has done them with on the court results. Suspend the whole team. 5-4 after 9 games?? There isn't a person alive that would have predicted that. Not one. This season can't end soon enough. NIT games ta the Bradley center at least.
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Otule get a rebound--biggest guy on the floor and cannot block out. Please.
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Wow Wisconsin is more athletic than us
yeap
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finally someone said it!! Yes Buzz is definitely overrated
He's not the second coming that some here would like to make him out to be, but he is an excellent coach. Bo Ryan is an excellent coach and after today Buzz and Bo will be 3-3 against each other.
Let's not get overly dramatic.
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Am I the only one who thinks we are not playing that badly? Wisconsin is a good team
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ironic - UW is definitely "out athleticing" Marquette who would of thunk?
and not gonna get better next year, MU losing Wilson, Gardner, Otule and probably Mayo...
and buzz likely sticking with De Wilson ant point next year
buzz not looking good for that UT job suddenly...
Burton getting abused by Decker...This is a better badger team than I have seen for awhile in terms of athleticism and talent.
Jamil came to play today, he looks solid. I'm really disappointed in our lack of rebounding...so many second chances for the badgers.
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At least Jamil is playing with a sneer and attitude - like to see that.
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Are some of you seriously surprised that MU is losing to a Top 10 team in a place they 'never' lose?
It's frustration of the season so far this is just adding on to that.
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So the other guys "get it". A lot of good it has done them with on the court results. Suspend the whole team. 5-4 after 9 games?? There isn't a person alive that would have predicted that. Not one. This season can't end soon enough. NIT games ta the Bradley center at least.
Wait, I thought you we leaving?
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Jake Thomas ??
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Am I the only one who thinks we are not playing that badly? Wisconsin is a good team
It looks to me like a rare case where MU is being outworked. UW is very good, but they also seem to be winning the effort battle.
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So the other guys "get it". A lot of good it has done them with on the court results. Suspend the whole team. 5-4 after 9 games?? There isn't a person alive that would have predicted that. Not one. This season can't end soon enough. NIT games ta the Bradley center at least.
Actually, there are some the predicted it. Go back to this Summer where some said if we don't get solid PG play it will be a rough ride.
The issue I have with your posts is that you continue down this path of you must win at all costs, despite any transgressions. I'd rather win the right way, but maybe that is just me.
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I've only been around basketball my whole life. I've played and coached at many levels. Someone please inform me of what Jake Thomas provides us. I just don't see it or get it AT ALL!
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Wow Wisconsin is more athletic than us
That's not true. Our team just doesn't give a sh*t.
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Like Juan begging for the ball w the mismatch. Too bad nobody listened
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he might clank in 1 of 5
I've only been around basketball my whole life. I've played and coached at many levels. Someone please inform me of what Jake Thomas provides us. I just don't see it or get it AT ALL!
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Case and point why Pre-Season Rankings are a joke. MU too high, Villanova too low, Michigan too high, etc?
MU lost too much and I fell into the trap called hope.
Expectations should have been WAY lower and thus our horrific play could be put into better context.
The problems run far and wide.
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Am I the only one who thinks we are not playing that badly? Wisconsin is a good team
I don't think we are playing too well, but UW-madison is very good.
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Am I the only one who thinks we are not playing that badly? Wisconsin is a good team
No we are playing awful. The officiating has been poor, but we have been dreadful. Wisconsin is good, but top 20-25 good, we have barely been top 100 good this game.
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That's not true. Our team just doesn't give a sh*t.
This is easily a top 5 dumbest post, in a thread filled with stupid posts.
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That's not true. Our team just doesn't give a sh*t.
What?
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Actually, there are some the predicted it. Go back to this Summer where some said if we don't get solid PG play it will be a rough ride.
The issue I have with your posts is that you continue down this path of you must win at all costs, despite any transgressions. I'd rather win the right way, but maybe that is just me.
+1. The voice of reason.
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It looks to me like a rare case where MU is being outworked. UW is very good, but they also seem to be winning the effort battle.
that is perhaps most disappointing to me in this game....so many loose balls, offensive rebounds, second chances and hustle plays...that is usually our trademark.
I do wonder if Mayo, upperclassman and 2nd leading scorer, letting his team down again and getting benched for a violation has some impact on overall attitude, energy and juju for this team
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Need a run. NOW!
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MU has 3 assists to Wisky's 12. Mu has 9 turnovers, for a 3 to 9 ratio. Never win like that, yet still in it. Not over yet.
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Jake Thomas just can't play at this level. Buzz can only see so much more than we can. He's a good seventh option off the bench.
Edit: meaning 12th option overall.
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No we are playing awful. The officiating has been poor, but we have been dreadful. Wisconsin is good, but top 20-25 good, we have barely been top 100 good this game.
Come on, the Badgers are a top team in the nation right now. We're not playing great, but the game isn't over.
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Case and point why Pre-Season Rankings are a joke. MU too high, Villanova too low, Michigan too high, etc?
MU lost too much and I fell into the trap called hope.
Expectations should have been WAY lower and thus our horrific play could be put into better context.
The problems run far and wide.
Amen on the problems.
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Down 11 with a lineup including dWilson, Thomas and Anderson. Can we keep it under 15? Becoming unwatchable.
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Better get Thomas out he gas 4 fouls, oh wait he is
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probably, but we seem to need to expect this with MU BB...
that is perhaps most disappointing to me in this game....so many loose balls, offensive rebounds, second chances and hustle plays...that is usually our trademark.
I do wonder if Mayo, upperclassman and 2nd leading scorer, letting his team down again and getting benched for a violation has some impact on overall attitude, energy and juju for this team
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that is perhaps most disappointing to me in this game....so many loose balls, offensive rebounds, second chances and hustle plays...that is usually our trademark.
I do wonder if Mayo, upperclassman and 2nd leading scorer, letting his team down again and getting benched for a violation has some impact on overall attitude, energy and juju for this team
You say this AND claim that MARQ_13's post about them not giving a sh*t is dumb... which is it?
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That call by a Burr on Hayes was brutal. ;D
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You say this AND claim that MARQ_13's post about them not giving a sh*t is dumb... which is it?
Huge difference between not giving a s**t and getting outworked.
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So glad I have my tickets, flight, and hotel booked for the game in Vegas.....
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You say this AND claim that MARQ_13's post about them not giving a sh*t is dumb... which is it?
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Huh? I didn't say that! They may give as much of a sh3t as any game but get let down by a team mate and they realize they are not at full strength and it can be a downer
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Jamil working his butt off
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Wisconsin seems to be getting all the bounces too. Maybe it's heart or hustle but one loose ball lead to an oop, another to an open 3. Not our day.
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We have 3 assists and 3 3-pt attempts with under 6 to go?!
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Traditionals are winning.
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Huge difference between not giving a s**t and getting outworked.
I can see how getting outworked along with the body language of 80% of our players can easily becoming "not giving a sh*t"
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MU has a run in them yet....here we go for better or worse.
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Great perimeter defense on the last defensive trip.
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That last defensive possession was nice but what the heck were the badgers doing with that passing?
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Huh? I didn't say that! They may give as much of a sh3t as any game but get let down by a team mate and they realize they are not at full strength and it can be a downer
Whoops sorry not sure how your name got attached to that quote sorry!
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3 assists the entire game...all by Jamil....wow
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Jamil working his butt off
Agree he has played a nice game.
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Jamil and Juan trying to take over. Who else?
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Game isn't over yet, curious as to why Buzz keeps calling timeouts after we make a shot.
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so when do we stop saying:
1) Why are we surprised we lost to a better team (seems like we faced a lot of "better teams" this year), maybe MU is not good in reality
2) We can win with De Wilson and Jake Thomas (currently contributing 3 whole pts to the game vs Bucky)
3) The "lessons" now build for March - there is now March at this progression, this is a team lucky to be .500 in the BE
4) not sure what to say about Mayo
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Whoops sorry not sure how your name got attached to that quote sorry!
no worries, friend
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CO can cut it to 6. Keep up the D.
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I like that Juan wasn't afraid to take that 3
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Like this late game play. Even if we lose hope isn't lost. Expectations this season were too high. We're missing Mayo, Duane all season, Steve is a disappointment, lost 3 starters and our star player. Even when these blue blood schools bring in multiple top 10 players every year they can struggle. Look at UNC in the NIT just recently. We're not used to this.
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Lucky to be a .500 team in the Big East? I can't stand the Badgers but they are playing very well this season. Let's not forget we are playing the number 8 team in the nation in their own gym.
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Looks like we'll be playing Florida in the NIT, huh? At the under 4min TO, they were losing 54-48. Seems kinda familiar, huh?
BTW, anyone who wants to show me the big wins on their schedule, I'm all ears. They going to the NIT?
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Jamil with a huge three! Only down three now!
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Big shot by Kaminsky
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you really think this the #8 team in the nation?
I guess that makes SDSU and ASU the #9 and #10 teams in the nation...
Lucky to be a .500 team in the Big East? I can't stand the Badgers but they are playing very well this season. Let's not forget we are playing the number 8 team in the nation in their own gym.
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It's awfully concerning that our little run in the waning minutes has come without the Ox. Dude had an attitude problem all game.
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Regarding athleticism, UW is arguably more athletic or at least as athletic as we are. They've had great athletes for awhile in their program. Unfortunately, if you have white skin, too often people think you are not athletic. Along with that, Bo's players can all shoot, put the ball on the floor and pass. They don't beat themselves very often. They take care of the ball and work as a team. When you shoot the ball well, it really spreads the floor, opens lanes and creates so much. We don't have guys that can shoot it. Therefore, teams can emphasize taking away our penetration.
Think of the starting five today:
O'Tule = non-athletic (non-shooter)
D.Wilson = average athlete (streaky shooter)
Thomas - below average athlete (can't even get a shot off - streaky at best)
J. Wilson = great athlete (streaky shooter)
Anderson = good athlete (below average shooter)
Kaminski = more athletic than O'Tule but very average (good shooter)
Sam Dekker - possibly the athlete on the floor - very athletic
Jackson = above average athlete (good shooter)
Gasser = average athlete (good shooter)
Brust = average athlete (lights out shooter)
If we would have Mayo (with his head screwed on right) and (a healthy) Duane Wilson in our backcourt, I think we could beat anyone. Only time will tell.
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Foul out Big Frank here.
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We actually ran a play for a perimeter player. Set screens to set Thomas up...they have to send help defenders to stop him leaving Wilson open for a 3.
We need more offensive sets like that for perimeter players. We don't have the players on the roster period to create for themselves.
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Yep, I think their rankin' is justified.
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you really think this the #8 team in the nation?
I guess that makes SDSU and ASU the #9 and #10 teams in the nation...
Don't let facts like AP ranking, ESPN ranking, RPI ranking, etc. get in the way of your obsession with hating on MU.
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you really think this the #8 team in the nation?
I guess that makes SDSU and ASU the #9 and #10 teams in the nation...
UW is much better than ASU and a little bit better than SDSU
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you really think this the #8 team in the nation?
I guess that makes SDSU and ASU the #9 and #10 teams in the nation...
If they're not, you need the teams that are clearly better.
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We actually ran a play for a perimeter player. Set screens to set Thomas up...they have to send help defenders to stop him leaving Wilson open for a 3.
We need more offensive sets like that for perimeter players. We don't have the players on the roster period to create for themselves.
Problem is that we only have 1 perimeter player that can shot, whereas we have to guard at least 4 on UW
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Good game, glad we kept it relatively close.
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Thomas 3's where they be?
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you really think this the #8 team in the nation?
I guess that makes SDSU and ASU the #9 and #10 teams in the nation...
Where would you place them? Are they not a top 10? Top 15? Top 20?
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Yep. JWil is back.
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impressive day for Jamil....thank you young man!
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At least MU found their senior leader today. Great game by Jamil.
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Problem is that we only have 1 perimeter player that can shot, whereas we have to guard at least 4 on UW
We have plenty of perimeter players that can shoot if we set them up properly. We do a very poor job of that this year. Our offense isn't set up that way, whereas it has in previous seasons (aka Acker/Cubilan year).
This year we are set up to try to exploit the post and the whole offense is designed to probe the perimeter while running plays to open up post players.
No picks for perimeter players, perimeter players are setting picks for posts.
Buzz always tries to adapt the offense to his strengths (this year post players), but he needs a little more offense to set up the perimeter to keep defenses honest.
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Derrick swished the three after the foul! Lol!
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Derrick Wilson swishes the 3 after the foul. :o
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Yep. JWil is back.
Isn't that what we said after that game out in Cali? Then he wasn't much of a factor the next 2-3 games? Jamil is way too inconsistent.
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fine, they are likely top 20, that makes MU about top 50
Where would you place them? Are they not a top 10? Top 15? Top 20?
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We have plenty of perimeter players that can shoot if we set them up properly.
The historical shooting percentages of our current players disagrees with you.
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fine, they are likely top 20, that makes MU about top 50
The list of 15-19 teams that are better would be great to see. Thanks in advance.
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Gotta be kidding me...ruled a 3 on the floor. You couldn't tell whether he was on the line or not. Well, doesn't matter anyway.
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Derrick swished the three after the foul! Lol!
He's bound to make one or two every year lol
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Funny officiating. They call it a 3 and reverse it even with the reply clearly showing wood floor visible between the white line and his foot.
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fine, they are likely top 20, that makes MU about top 50
"Likely" top 20... Lol
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That was clearly a three. Comical.
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Funny officiating. They call it a 3 and reverse it even with the reply clearly showing wood floor visible between the white line and his foot.
It was actually a split call. The ref closest to the call signaled 2, the ref behind the play called it a 3.
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fine, they are likely top 20, that makes MU about top 50
Great, so they'll be dancing in March! Count madtownwarrior as still on the bandwagon! Can't even get his negativity right.
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It was actually a split call. The ref closest to the call signaled 2, the ref behind the play called it a 3.
The announcer said they overturned the call, therefore officially it was counted as a 3. Regardless, the replays, which they watched, clearly showed it to be a 3.
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Why didn't we try some 3's earlier? This team is so passive.
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Wait! Aren't the refs going to review that Gardner three?
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Funny officiating. They call it a 3 and reverse it even with the reply clearly showing wood floor visible between the white line and his foot.
What replay did they show that was clear? They only had that one angle I saw and it was hard to tell one way or the other. Crappy camera angle (one) all day. Maybe the lines froze.
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What replay did they show that was clear? They only had that one angle I saw and it was hard to tell one way or the other. Crappy camera angle (one) all day. Maybe the lines froze.
The replay they repeatedly showed in slow motion going back and forth that clearly showed wood between the white line and his foot.
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Yeah, he was 3 in. Behind the line. Thankfully didn't make any difference.
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The announcer said they overturned the call, therefore officially it was counted as a 3. Regardless, the replays, which they watched, clearly showed it to be a 3.
Watch the replay. The ref about 5 feet away was emphatic it was a 2, the outside ref about 15 feet away said 3. The scorekeeper went with the outside ref, as the scorekeeper was only a few feet away from the outside ref. So yes, from that standpoint they overturned it but this isn't the NFL, two refs called something different. The angle to me was tough to tell, though the action of the closer ref who was looking right at his feet was emphatic WHILE he was shooting. He may have been wrong, but he was absolutely convinced.
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Badgers were the better team. A number of factors hurt us today, but the bottom line is we let Dekker get free too often. This was a game where we had to punch them in the mouth and instead we just played the role of punching bag. Really disappointed in Jake. Never seemed to get free or even look for his shot. I'd be much happier with him shooting and missing than not shooting at all. I want to strangle a kitten right now.
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Disappointed we didn't today but I saw encouraging signs. I am now convinced Juan should get way more minutes. He's a quiet player but rarely makes mistakes and does a lot of little things.
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The replay they repeatedly showed in slow motion going back and forth that clearly showed wood between the white line and his foot.
Thanks...I couldn't see it from that angle...to me it was clear it was unclear after the step back. Usually they do the zoom in to be sure one way or the other. But I am with Chicos, the ref right here was in great position, and the outside ref was Jim Burr. 'Nuff said.
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MU out-shot (2pointers and 3pointers) and out rebounded the #8 team in the nation in an away game.
The difference? 4 more turnovers and 9 more fouls.
Take away either one, and we win.
Take away Jim Burr and we win.
Of course there's +1 point for Juan's 3 as well.
I still have a lot of faith in this team.
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Wish this team would play with the same intesity they did in the last couple of minutes.
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MU out-shot (2pointers and 3pointers) and out rebounded the #8 team in the nation in an away game.
The difference? 4 more turnovers and 9 more fouls.
Take away either one, and we win.
Take away Jim Burr and we win.
Of course there's +1 point for Juan's 3 as well.
I still have a lot of faith in this team.
10 of those free throws came in the final minute when MU was fouling on purpose. Two of those turnovers and fouls came on flops. But, Bucky beat MU up...Dekker and MU's lack of offense from the guards were the difference
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So glad I have my tickets, flight, and hotel booked for the game in Vegas.....
No doubt. To rub salt in the wound they were just running a buy one get one deal on tickets for the game as well, so we are both likely out extra money too. Maybe the team will have it figured out by then. ; )
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Seems like a lot of people in this thread are freaking out that we lost to a top 10 team on the road. As much as I hate losing to the Badgers, they made the hustle plays and hit huge shots when they had to. Hats off to them. I had a bad feeling MU was going to fold and get blown out, but with under 2 minutes to play we were within 3 points.
If you would have told any realistic MU fan before tipoff we would be down 3 with under 2 to play, when faced with numerous opportunities to mail it in, I think they would have been pretty happy with that scenario.
The Dekker bounce around 3 in the first half, the 3 he hit after the loose ball scramble in the second, and the triple by Kaminsky to put them up 6 were all killers.
I'm proud of the mettle we showed late, hopefully the experience transfers to success in conference play.
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I just can't stop laughing at those trying to say Uw-Madison isn't talented.
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The angle to me was tough to tell, though the action of the closer ref who was looking right at his feet was emphatic WHILE he was shooting. He may have been wrong, but he was absolutely convinced.
Wrong but absolutely convinced? That could be you or me or even Equalizer.
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Wrong but absolutely convinced? That could be you or me or even Equalizer.
LOL. Very true.
I'm one of those people that likes an umpire, ref, etc, to make a definitive call and he certainly did. I guess that was my point...who knows, lots of egg nog and spirits today on a rainy So. Cal day putting up the tree and watching the boys play.
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Twas' a ugly turd of a game for a MU backer so I can't stomach to look back through this thread but have a question.......what is up with STJ? Buzz talked about his injured leg and slow to get back to game shape or something like that on the radio show, is that what kept him glued to bench? Seemed like he would have helped eh?
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same here, at least it will be warm and fun in Vegas. highly doubt a MU win on the road against a mediocre team...
So glad I have my tickets, flight, and hotel booked for the game in Vegas.....
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Twas' a ugly turd of a game for a MU backer so I can't stomach to look back through this thread but have a question.......what is up with STJ? Buzz talked about his injured leg and slow to get back to game shape or something like that on the radio show, is that what kept him glued to bench? Seemed like he would have helped eh?
See here:
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=40917.0
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10 of those free throws came in the final minute when MU was fouling on purpose. Two of those turnovers and fouls came on flops. But, Bucky beat MU up...Dekker and MU's lack of offense from the guards were the difference
You got beat by a superior team, deal the hell with it!!
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You got beat by a superior team, deal the hell with it!!
That was my point, Doofer. You from the Ron Dayne School of Reading?
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That was my point, Doofer. You from the Ron Dayne School of Reading?
Harvard of the Midwest, we should respect his reading comprehension skillz.
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The Dekker bounce around 3 in the first half, the 3 he hit after the loose ball scramble in the second, and the triple by Kaminsky to put them up 6 were all killers.
I'm proud of the mettle we showed late, hopefully the experience transfers to success in conference play.
What has me in a slow burn is that loose ball scramble. I was at the game, so I couldn't replay it, but it looked like the MU players got out hustled this game.
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What has me in a slow burn is that loose ball scramble. I was at the game, so I couldn't replay it, but it looked like the MU players got out hustled this game.
Seemed like loose ball scrambles with an s. Was at the game too so didn't see the reply but it seemed as though there were maybe 3 50/50 balls around that 10 minute mark when MU was down about 8 and they didn't get any. Was nice to see them have some pride in the last 5 minutes but it a little too late.