COVID-19 (f/k/a "the Coronavirus")

[JWags85]

I get that.  But its not know by that anywhere else but the White House and his media lapdogs.  CDC, WHO and every other media organization is calling it something else.

WHO was calling it the Wuhan Virus or Wuhan Flu and people were spazzing about that too

[Pakuni]

I have zero doubt that those labeling it the "China" flu or virus are doing so to cast blame and deflect criticism from the domestic response.
I also have zero doubt that this is just about the least important issue to fret over right now.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

I have zero doubt that those labeling it the "China" flu or virus are doing so to cast blame and deflect criticism from the domestic response.
I also have zero doubt that this is just about the least important issue to fret over right now.

You are correct on both counts.

[rocky_warrior]

You are correct on both counts.

Yup, was surprised that one got you on a tangent!    Stay focused fluffy!

[Golden Avalanche]

At least he didn't call it the Kung Flu?

That only occurs off camera.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Yup, was surprised that one got you on a tangent!    Stay focused fluffy!

Literally 95% of my working day is spent dealing with this unnatural carnal knowledgeing virus.

[jesmu84]

Edit: Trump talk in the link. If you don't want to read, don't click

https://twitter.com/DLeonhardt/status/1240289577849573381?s=19

[Mr. Nielsen]

[Keithtisbarf]

I have zero doubt that those labeling it the "China" flu or virus are doing so to cast blame and deflect criticism from the domestic response.
I also have zero doubt that this is just about the least important issue to fret over right now.

When the virus was only in China I imagine all asians in America faced some racial profiling. If I was Chinese I would be afraid of being attacked if I went out today.

[JWags85]

If I was Chinese I would be afraid of being attacked if I went out today.

 Seriously?   Come on man.

I have 3 Chinese coworkers, one even based in the Deep South, and the only thing they've gotten asked if if they had visited China recently and/or if their family there was ok.

[Keithtisbarf]

Seriously?   Come on man.

I have 3 Chinese coworkers, one even based in the Deep South, and the only thing they've gotten asked if if they had visited China recently and/or if their family there was ok.

I would be completely on edge if I was Chinese, or looked Chinese, just being honest.

[Galway Eagle]

When the virus was only in China I imagine all asians in America faced some racial profiling. If I was Chinese I would be afraid of being attacked if I went out today.

Funny you should say this because I have a couple friends from Ireland who are teaching in Vietnam right now and they're getting verbally abused. According to one of them the locals are blaming westerners for this.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

Seriously?   Come on man.

I have 3 Chinese coworkers, one even based in the Deep South, and the only thing they've gotten asked if if they had visited China recently and/or if their family there was ok.

A few weeks people were not eating at Chinese restaurants and visits to various city Chinatowns were way down.
The Connecticut governor and Attorney General (who is Chinese-American, last name Tong) went out to dinner together at a Chinese restaurant as a show of support.

[jesmu84]

Interesting thread on increasing ventilator manufacturing:

https://twitter.com/CitizenCohn/status/1240262582780473347?s=20

[JWags85]

A few weeks people were not eating at Chinese restaurants and visits to various city Chinatowns were way down.
The Connecticut governor and Attorney General (who is Chinese-American, last name Tong) went out to dinner together at a Chinese restaurant as a show of support.

There is a difference between some xenophobic avoidance of people who they think were home for Chinese New Year, were exposed, etc... and physically assaulting and attacking individuals of Chinese/Asian descent in the street.  The former is a tad ignorant, the latter is a stretch that borders on urban legend.

[StillAWarrior]

For the record - I understand.  I should choose my words more carefully.  But my point remains - why have only 27k been tested if 75k tests are available and lots more are coming online?  I think part of it is that that labs can't process them fast enough - but as Goooo points out, processing capability is increasing daily. 

At this point the fact that only those at high risk or in hospitals can get tested is a f*cking failure.

I agree. Hanlon's razor.  And that is as much of a "defense" of the President as I can muster on  this issue at this time.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

I saw these ideas stated by Elizabeth Warren on minimum conditions for any industry bailout.
(And for crying out loud, please don't go nuts because it's Elizabeth Warren stating them.)
Sounded like many of the statements mirrored earlier Scoop comments.

We’re not writing blank checks to giant corporations. Any taxpayer dollars that go to help big businesses during the coronavirus crisis should come with the following minimum requirements:
1. Companies must maintain their payrolls and use funds to keep people working or on payroll.
2. Companies must provide a $15 minimum wage within one year of the national emergency declaration ending.
3. Companies are permanently prohibited from engaging in share repurchases.
4. Companies are prohibited from paying out dividends or executive bonuses while they are receiving any relief and for three years thereafter.
5. Companies must set aside at least one seat – but potentially two or more, as the amount of relief increases – on the board of directors for representatives elected by workers.
6. Collective bargaining agreements should remain in place and should not be reopened or renegotiated pursuant to this relief program.
7. Corporations must obtain shareholder and board approval for all political expenditures.
8. CEOs must be required to personally certify a company is in compliance and face criminal penalties for false certifications.
Congress must set up an oversight body, modeled on the Congressional Oversight Panel and the SIGTARP program for the bank bailout, but with real funding & subpoena power. We need real accountability to make sure these conditions are met.

[Coleman]

I saw these ideas stated by Elizabeth Warren on minimum conditions for any industry bailout.
(And for crying out loud, please don't go nuts because it's Elizabeth Warren stating them.)
Sounded like many of the statements mirrored earlier Scoop comments.

We’re not writing blank checks to giant corporations. Any taxpayer dollars that go to help big businesses during the coronavirus crisis should come with the following minimum requirements:
1. Companies must maintain their payrolls and use funds to keep people working or on payroll.
2. Companies must provide a $15 minimum wage within one year of the national emergency declaration ending.
3. Companies are permanently prohibited from engaging in share repurchases.
4. Companies are prohibited from paying out dividends or executive bonuses while they are receiving any relief and for three years thereafter.
5. Companies must set aside at least one seat – but potentially two or more, as the amount of relief increases – on the board of directors for representatives elected by workers.
6. Collective bargaining agreements should remain in place and should not be reopened or renegotiated pursuant to this relief program.
7. Corporations must obtain shareholder and board approval for all political expenditures.
8. CEOs must be required to personally certify a company is in compliance and face criminal penalties for false certifications.
Congress must set up an oversight body, modeled on the Congressional Oversight Panel and the SIGTARP program for the bank bailout, but with real funding & subpoena power. We need real accountability to make sure these conditions are met.

I don't disagree with many of these, but I don't see many people agreeing with it

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Wuhan flu ain't nothin to f#ck with.

[StillAWarrior]

A few weeks people were not eating at Chinese restaurants and visits to various city Chinatowns were way down.
The Connecticut governor and Attorney General (who is Chinese-American, last name Tong) went out to dinner together at a Chinese restaurant as a show of support.

I have stopped visiting the Chinese restaurant I used to eat at once every week or two, but only because I went there for the buffet. But then again, I've also stopped visiting the salad bar that I visited 90% of the other days.

[WarriorDad]

A few weeks people were not eating at Chinese restaurants and visits to various city Chinatowns were way down.
The Connecticut governor and Attorney General (who is Chinese-American, last name Tong) went out to dinner together at a Chinese restaurant as a show of support.

Some people.  Broad aspersions one way are not offset with broad aspersions the other way.

[StillAWarrior]

Just finished doing a 45-minute presentation call regarding COVID-19 issues for employers. Sadly, if the last couple days is any indication, much of it is already outdated.

[🏀]

Wuhan flu ain't nothin to f#ck with.

You sir. You.

Well done.

[WarriorDad]

For the record - I understand.  I should choose my words more carefully.  But my point remains - why have only 27k been tested if 75k tests are available and lots more are coming online?  I think part of it is that that labs can't process them fast enough - but as Goooo points out, processing capability is increasing daily. 

At this point the fact that only those at high risk or in hospitals can get tested is a f*cking failure.

As I understand it from CNN, the tests that WHO put out are causing 47% false positives.  The CDC developed their own test which was much more accurate, but had a manufacturing defect.  Are you suggesting we should have pushed a test out that was wrong half the time?  Who would we blame then?

[Keithtisbarf]

There is a difference between some xenophobic avoidance of people who they think were home for Chinese New Year, were exposed, etc... and physically assaulting and attacking individuals of Chinese/Asian descent in the street.  The former is a tad ignorant, the latter is a stretch that borders on urban legend.

Just because you haven’t seen it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. I’m white and don’t have any idea what a Chinese person feels like, but I can think about how I would feel if I were an Asian. I would feel like everyone thinks I have Covid-19, and I would be scared to be in public.