2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread

[MU82]

Mike Evans quietly having a Hall of Fame career . Recording stays in terms of consecutive 1000 yard seasons and 12 touchdown seasons that only Hall of Famers have recorded.

He's not a quiet surprise. Everybody who knows even a little bit about the NFL knows that Evans is a great WR, and a likely Hall of Famer.

[Herman Cain]

Mile High Meltdown


https://nypost.com/2023/12/24/sports/patriots-score-two-touchdowns-in-8-seconds-after-broncos-kickoff-blunder/amp/

[Herman Cain]

Dan Campbell is Lions Santa
https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/12/25/dan-campbell-gave-a-fiery-postgame-speech-after-the-lions-secured-the-nfc-north-title

[tower912]

That was a bad 12 seconds for Mahomes.

[Herman Cain]

That was a bad 12 seconds for Mahomes.

Can Raiders take advantage of good fortune and hold lead in second half ?

[Jockey]

Hard to win without good WRs.

[Lennys Tap]

Hard to win without good WRs.

True, but Mahomes has won a lot of games with ordinary ones. There was a revolving door of WRs at NE during Brady’s career.

Something is off with Patrick. Wonder if he has an injury we’re not aware of.

[Lennys Tap]

True, but Mahomes has won a lot of games with ordinary ones. There was a revolving door of WRs at NE during Brady’s career.

Something is off with Patrick. Wonder if he has an injury we’re not aware of.

Well, he looked pretty good on that drive - vintage! If they get the ball back…

[DegenerateDish]

If the Raiders win the AFC West (that scenario isn’t as crazy as it sounds), Pierce should be Coach of the Year.

[Herman Cain]

Excellent win for Raiders .

Chiefs will be there when it counts in Super Bowl

[CreightonWarrior]

Excellent win for Raiders .

Chiefs will be there when it counts in Super Bowl

As spectators watching Miami or Baltimore?

[tower912]

The Chiefs are going to find available wide receivers that can catch the ball in the next two weeks?

[tower912]

Ummmm, the Ravens against the top teams in the NFC?   Ouch

[jesmu84]

Lamar was a free agent and no other team even made an offer?

Smells like collusion

[tower912]

Injuries.   How many games has he missed?   Not the case this season.

[cheebs09]

Lamar was a free agent and no other team even made an offer?

Smells like collusion

I'm not sure it's that simple. The Ravens placed a tag on him and I believe they were looking for multiple first round draft picks. That coupled with Lamar wanting a Deshaun Watson type guaranteed contract made interest pretty low.

All of this while having some years with injuries. They very well may have been colluding since it's pretty obvious a lot of teams could use him, but it was a very steep price.

[Lennys Tap]

Lamar was a free agent and no other team even made an offer?

Smells like collusion

Actually smells more like your world view interfering with the facts.

[tower912]

...he says with much unrealized irony...

[Herman Cain]

https://www.joebucsfan.com/2023/12/todd-bowles-bucs-needed-to-go-a-different-way/

[forgetful]

I'm not sure it's that simple. The Ravens placed a tag on him and I believe they were looking for multiple first round draft picks. That coupled with Lamar wanting a Deshaun Watson type guaranteed contract made interest pretty low.

All of this while having some years with injuries. They very well may have been colluding since it's pretty obvious a lot of teams could use him, but it was a very steep price.

They placed a non-exclusive tag. That means the Ravens would be able to match any offer. I'm not sure it was formal collusion, but other teams knew that whatever they offered, the Ravens would match. Which means they would never have gotten him anyway, and it would have tipped their hand on the fact that they were planning on drafting a QB/shows lack of confidence in their QB.

Nothing to gain, so why bid.

[MU82]

They placed a non-exclusive tag. That means the Ravens would be able to match any offer. I'm not sure it was formal collusion, but other teams knew that whatever they offered, the Ravens would match. Which means they would never have gotten him anyway, and it would have tipped their hand on the fact that they were planning on drafting a QB/shows lack of confidence in their QB.

Nothing to gain, so why bid.

Exactly. Those are collectively bargained rules. I remember a little collusion talk at the time, but there really was nothing there.

Collusion has happened over the years - especially in baseball, when owners actually lost a ton of money after being sued. I believe in the NBA, too. Can't remember it ever getting that far in the NFL; the owners have most of the advantages built into the CBA so they don't really need to collude.

[Plaque Lives Matter!]

They placed a non-exclusive tag. That means the Ravens would be able to match any offer. I'm not sure it was formal collusion, but other teams knew that whatever they offered, the Ravens would match. Which means they would never have gotten him anyway, and it would have tipped their hand on the fact that they were planning on drafting a QB/shows lack of confidence in their QB.

Nothing to gain, so why bid.

To put an opposing team in a tougher cap situation. It’s not at all outlandish to suggest it was the owners resetting the power dynamic after the Watson deal.

[Herman Cain]

Wheels coming off Jags Wagon

https://apnews.com/article/jacksonville-jaguars-analysis-trevor-lawrence-8a59aa05c6f1adf41b111eb9cfaec6c0

[Pakuni]

They placed a non-exclusive tag. That means the Ravens would be able to match any offer. I'm not sure it was formal collusion, but other teams knew that whatever they offered, the Ravens would match. Which means they would never have gotten him anyway, and it would have tipped their hand on the fact that they were planning on drafting a QB/shows lack of confidence in their QB.

Nothing to gain, so why bid.

Given that the Ravens very publicly stated they weren't giving Lamar a fully guaranteed deal, I'm not sure why anyone would claim they were going to match any offer.
As for not showing confidence in their QB ... who cares? I don't think teams do, or should, care about that.

This seems the correct take.
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/lack-interest-lamar-jackson-collusion-181829013.html

[Uncle Rico]

Raiders-Chiefs received the highest XMas day TV rating since 1989.  The demise of the NFL continues unabated