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MUScoop => The Superbar => Topic started by: Herman Cain on June 10, 2023, 08:30:19 AM
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2023 US Open at Los Angeles Country. A private course that has hosted very few professional events. The course architect has restored a very trick par 3 on 17. Could be an exciting hole down the stretch
https://www.usopen.com/2023/articles/notebook--unearthed-lacc-history-will-play-a-bit-part.html
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Bermuda rough not growing at Los Angeles Country Club
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/USOpen2023-los-angeles-country-club-rough-bermuda-grass-growing-weather-in-southern-california?utm_medium=email&utm_source=061023&utm_campaign=hitlist&utm_content=DM40682&uuid=85f898e378d547f4aa114b5572e1ddc5
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Golf Digest rating of top 100 players in the field at The 2023 US Open
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/us-open-2023-top-100-players-in-the-field-at-lacc-ranked?utm_medium=email&utm_source=061123&utm_campaign=hitlist&utm_content=DM40685&uuid=85f898e378d547f4aa114b5572e1ddc5
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Golf Digest rating of top 100 players in the field at The 2023 US Open
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/us-open-2023-top-100-players-in-the-field-at-lacc-ranked?utm_medium=email&utm_source=061123&utm_campaign=hitlist&utm_content=DM40685&uuid=85f898e378d547f4aa114b5572e1ddc5
surprised not to see sam bennett's name in there-finished tied 16th in masters with opening rounds of 68-68-76-74
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Can’t wait to see which club they use on the 290 par 3
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Can’t wait to see which club they use on the 290 par 3
....it's about a 5 iron, I'd say. Tears in his eyes.....
They had a par 3 this long at Oakmont.
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Can’t wait to see which club they use on the 290 par 3
I'd probably use a wedge.
(But enough about my third shot on the hole. Or fourth.)
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Can’t wait to see which club they use on the 290 par 3
Here is a course description of all the holes. Looks like the 290 yard 11th has a 40 foot elevation drop
https://apnews.com/article/us-open-los-angeles-country-club-e3678bef1e01d3325da0d0037af21e7a
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https://www.cbssports.com/golf/news/2023-u-s-open-odds-favorites-scottie-scheffler-jon-rahm-brooks-koepka-look-to-continue-dominance/
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This is the most excited about the venue for the US Open in a long time. I cannot wait for play to get started.
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This is the most excited about the venue for the US Open in a long time. I cannot wait for play to get started.
Now that they’re going to “anchor sites”, I’ll be curious to see how many “new” venues they choose moving forward. The only open years between now and 2040 are ‘31, ‘36 and ‘38 with Shinnecock almost certainly getting ‘36 or ‘38.
The Chicago area will go 30-35 years between US Opens should they not get one in that period. I suppose going to Oakland Hills in ‘34 counts for the Midwest now.
Too many good venues rendered obsolete by equipment and the almighty dollar. Really hope the USGA doesn’t rule out exploring sites to host but I fear they are
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Now that they’re going to “anchor sites”, I’ll be curious to see how many “new” venues they choose moving forward. The only open years between now and 2040 are ‘31, ‘36 and ‘38 with Shinnecock almost certainly getting ‘36 or ‘38.
The Chicago area will go 30-35 years between US Opens should they not get one in that period. I suppose going to Oakland Hills in ‘34 counts for the Midwest now.
Too many good venues rendered obsolete by equipment and the almighty dollar. Really hope the USGA doesn’t rule out exploring sites to host but I fear they are
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/us-open-2023-los-angeles-country-club-north-course-return?utm_medium=email&utm_source=061323&utm_campaign=gdplus&utm_content=DM40844&uuid=85f898e378d547f4aa114b5572e1ddc5
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Brutal penalty for missing target in fairway at Par 4 13 at LACC
https://twitter.com/TaylorMadeGolf/status/1668378323406446593?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1668378323406446593%7Ctwgr%5E98d27f9345fc742b72f443f116df624d563c3cdd%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.golfdigest.com%2Fstory%2Fus-open-2023-first-look-brutal-lacc-fairway-unfair-absurd
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Now that they’re going to “anchor sites”, I’ll be curious to see how many “new” venues they choose moving forward. The only open years between now and 2040 are ‘31, ‘36 and ‘38 with Shinnecock almost certainly getting ‘36 or ‘38.
The Chicago area will go 30-35 years between US Opens should they not get one in that period. I suppose going to Oakland Hills in ‘34 counts for the Midwest now.
Too many good venues rendered obsolete by equipment and the almighty dollar. Really hope the USGA doesn’t rule out exploring sites to host but I fear they are
Many of the traditional Chicago privates are no longer interested, just Jemsek
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Many of the traditional Chicago privates are no longer interested, just Jemsek
And they ain’t going to those for sure
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https://www.pgatour.com/article/news/stats-report/2023/06/13/can-resurgent-rickie--fowler-break-through-at-lacc-us-open
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i've got rickie on my fanduel team-as long as the honeymoon is over, his golf game should recover
koepka, woodland reed, spieth bradley
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i've got rickie on my fanduel team-as long as the honeymoon is over, his golf game should recover
koepka, woodland reed, spieth bradley
They were married in 2019 and had a child in 2019. I need him to get on the Ryder Cup team. Would be a big boost for Team Europe
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They were married in 2019 and had a child in 2019. I need him to get on the Ryder Cup team. Would be a big boost for Team Europe
i know, for those of you from rio linda, that was tongue in cheek, meaning a joke
rickie's game is back-team europe doe not want him on team usa
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i know, for those of you from rio linda, that was tongue in cheek, meaning a joke
rickie's game is back-team europe doe not want him on team usa
I believe Rickie is 3-7-5 in the Ryder Cup. Even if his game is “back,” I’m not sure it strikes much fear in the Europeans.
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I believe Rickie is 3-7-5 in the Ryder Cup. Even if his game is “back,” I’m not sure it strikes much fear in the Europeans.
Rocket isn’t much into facts. Rick did finally win a match on foreign soil in 2018, so he’s hot
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Rocket isn’t much into facts. Rick did finally win a match on foreign soil in 2018, so he’s hot
i know what rickie's record is, but i believe his game is back.
last september he was ranked #185. he has since climbed back into the top 50=fact
otherwise, never stated anything else as fact so no idea what you are trolling me for
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i know what rickie's record is, but i believe his game is back.
last september he was ranked #185. he has since climbed back into the top 50=fact
otherwise, never stated anything else as fact so no idea what you are trolling me for
Team Europe would love to see him on the US Team
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Team Europe would love to see him on the US Team
is that a fact? have you talked to anyone from team europe? i doubt that so who has a problem with facts?
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is that a fact? have you talked to anyone from team europe? i doubt that so who has a problem with facts?
I have. I work with the agent for a prominent European player.
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I have. I work with the agent for a prominent European player.
umkay, right and i'm good buddies with frank kaminsky, so what. still not a fact
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umkay, right and i'm good buddies with frank kaminsky, so what. still not a fact
Absolutely is fact. Just like Rick’s terrible Ryder Cup record
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These guys have a shot a doing well
Cam Smith
Victor Hovland
Scottie Scheffler
Xander Schauffle
Brooks Koepka
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These guys have a shot a doing well
Cam Smith
Victor Hovland
Scottie Scheffler
Xander Schauffle
Brooks Koepka
Lol
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I have. I work with the agent for a prominent European player.
I'm chicos.
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I have. I work with the agent for a prominent European player.
I bet Herman has shared a private jet with the guy you work with.
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I bet Herman has shared a private jet with the guy you work with.
I’ve probably run into Herm between the recruiting visits I’ve been on and the high rollers I deal with. Small world
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Course is too easy
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43 golfers at even or better. Roll the ball back
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Just saw that they have the event streaming on Peacock
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Eye kould sea if The Quon wansta host an Open, hey?
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Eye kould sea if The Quon wansta host an Open, hey?
We don’t want the unwashed masses on our courses, pal
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i know what rickie's record is, but i believe his game is back.
last september he was ranked #185. he has since climbed back into the top 50=fact
otherwise, never stated anything else as fact so no idea what you are trolling me for
Respect. Long way to go, but you’ve earned a tip of the bright orange Puma cap
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Course is a disgrace. USGA has gone soft. Need the rollback ASAP. Determine the true best golfers
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Rickie Fowler
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Course is a disgrace. USGA has gone soft. Need the rollback ASAP. Determine the true best golfers
Didn't know how it would play. Erred on the side of soft.
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Now that they’re going to “anchor sites”, I’ll be curious to see how many “new” venues they choose moving forward. The only open years between now and 2040 are ‘31, ‘36 and ‘38 with Shinnecock almost certainly getting ‘36 or ‘38.
The Chicago area will go 30-35 years between US Opens should they not get one in that period. I suppose going to Oakland Hills in ‘34 counts for the Midwest now.
Too many good venues rendered obsolete by equipment and the almighty dollar. Really hope the USGA doesn’t rule out exploring sites to host but I fear they are
Turning their back on the Chicago market is another indication of the quality of PGA leadership. Somebody should take over the PGA. Oh, wait. :D
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Didn't know how it would play. Erred on the side of soft.
It should theoretically play harder this afternoon and on the weekend based on reports. Rose was -6 at Pebble after round 1 in ‘19
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Now that they’re going to “anchor sites”, I’ll be curious to see how many “new” venues they choose moving forward. The only open years between now and 2040 are ‘31, ‘36 and ‘38 with Shinnecock almost certainly getting ‘36 or ‘38.
The Chicago area will go 30-35 years between US Opens should they not get one in that period. I suppose going to Oakland Hills in ‘34 counts for the Midwest now.
Too many good venues rendered obsolete by equipment and the almighty dollar. Really hope the USGA doesn’t rule out exploring sites to host but I fear they are
Why do supposed Oakland Hills counts for the Midwest? Detroit is absolutely part of the Midwest now and always has been
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Why do supposed Oakland Hills counts for the Midwest? Detroit is absolutely part of the Midwest now and always has been
It’s one venue. Bad phrasing. Erin Hills in ‘17. Another 17 years until the Midwest gets an US Open? It’s bad enough the PGA can’t come here anymore.
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Why do supposed Oakland Hills counts for the Midwest? Detroit is absolutely part of the Midwest now and always has been
Detroit is part of Canada, or at least should be.
https://www.cmich.edu/research/clarke-historical-library/explore-collection/explore-online/michigan-material/detroit-pre-statehood/bibliography#:~:text=In%201791%2C%20when%20the%20British,provincial%20assembly%20of%20Upper%20Canada. (https://www.cmich.edu/research/clarke-historical-library/explore-collection/explore-online/michigan-material/detroit-pre-statehood/bibliography#:~:text=In%201791%2C%20when%20the%20British,provincial%20assembly%20of%20Upper%20Canada.)
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Disgraceful
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The fans like train wrecks in the US Open. LACC is a straightforward course so not a lot of hopes to go significantly backward. The USGA will have more difficult pin placements .
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The fans like train wrecks in the US Open. LACC is a straightforward course so not a lot of hopes to go significantly backward. The USGA will have more difficult pin placements .
How many times have you played it?
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Disgraceful
What happened?
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Turning their back on the Chicago market is another indication of the quality of PGA leadership. Somebody should take over the PGA. Oh, wait. :D
PGA is not the USGA
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Solid first day for Rory
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Except for that whole whiffing a chip thing.
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Course is a disgrace. USGA has gone soft. Need the rollback ASAP. Determine the true best golfers
have you played it?
you're just pissed off because you're wrong about big rick
disgraceful course you say? tell that to jason day, tommy fleetwood, adam scott, justin rose...a lot of guys a little better than reeko are walking around talking to themselves
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Phil with a sloppy bogey on the first hole.
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Going to go watch the LPGA tourney. Navy MU jumpman polo and a white hat. I'll wave.
Following the Stacy Lewis, Leona Maguire group
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Rory putting himself in good position for The Weekend.
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PGA is not the USGA
Stupid facts! ;D
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Rickie Fowler is a birdie machine
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Rickie Fowler is a birdie machine
Luckily he’s more of a birdie machine than bogey machine. -2 with just 4 pars is great.
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rickie is fun to watch-he looks pretty dialed in. long over due and in good position for saturday he seems to know the course and is hitting his spots.
rickie don't lose that number!
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have you played it?
you're just pissed off because you're wrong about big rick
disgraceful course you say? tell that to jason day, tommy fleetwood, adam scott, justin rose...a lot of guys a little better than reeko are walking around talking to themselves
I’m not wrong about Rick. Winning is great for Team Europe. Maybe pair him with JT. Rick could have taken the easy way out and done the sports washing tour but instead stuck it out and worked hard to reclaim his game. That’s commendable unlike guys like FIGJAM or Brooks who completely disregards the etiquette and rules of the game.
As for LACC North, I’ve played it numerous times. The USGA could have avoided their championship becoming a pitch and putt had they reigned in equipment years ago. LACC is anything but “straightforward”. One time when I played with Johnny Miller, he shot a 62
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Kinda like da tyme Eye sparred wit Ali, hey?
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Kinda like da tyme Eye sparred wit Ali, hey?
I knew Ali well. Heckuva guy
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Kinda like da tyme Eye sparred wit Ali, hey?
I knew Ali well. Heckuva guy
Rico you hid it for a long time but now your inner Chico is in full blossom.
Proud your coming out now .
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Rico you hid it for a long time but now your inner Chico is in full blossom.
Proud your coming out now .
ho boy!! i think reeko aspires to be chico(sorry jaime)...those are some big shoes man! he's the commie version of chico
now, back when i carried the bag for sam and ben...
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Cam Smith paired with Scottie Scheffler today. Should be a fun pairing to follow for those at the event.
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I love Rico when he is in full mock mode and those being mocked miss the joke.
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I love Rico when he is in full mock mode and those being mocked miss the joke.
I’m not mocking anyone. I would always tell Ali to shut up and box.
As for LACC, I’ve never played the back tees. I typically shoot in the high 70’s there. I played there with Dean Cain a month ago.
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Bwahahahaha
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Last time I played LACC, or da Club as we refer to it, was with #12 and I had 29 putts, hey?
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Bwahahaha
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Xander may not survive the first hole.
Bouncing back.
His re-gripping early reminded me of Bethpage Sergio.
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I love Rico when he is in full mock mode and those being mocked miss the joke.
here, i'll fix this for you...i love rico
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Rickie Fowler
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rickie with a putt from the pitchers mound...the europeans just leaked a few solids into their under britches
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here, i'll fix this for you...i love rico
I am sure he loves you, too.
Starting to play like a US Open.
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I am sure he loves you, too.
Starting to play like a US Open.
speaking of missing the "mock" bwhahahahaha
big rick sticks another one while the euros let out a collective gasp
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Counterclockwise. Bwahahahahaha
You are his muse.
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Xander may not survive the first hole.
Bouncing back.
His re-gripping early reminded me of Bethpage Sergio.
Can't hit a fairway with his driver today.
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I don’t think Scheffler will go backward in the Final Round. He is cool as a cucumber out there . My guess is The leaders will feel the pressure and come back to the field.
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I don’t think Scheffler will go backward in the Final Round. He is cool as a cucumber out there . My guess is The leaders will feel the pressure and come back to the field.
If he has a couple more holes where he doesn't have to putt....
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Ill admit Im surprised that Rickie has stuck around this long. Usually his melt day is Saturday.
But tomorrow will be fun, tons of storylines. Rickie back from the wilderness. Rory trying to break his born-again Winless in the Majors streak. Wyndham looking for his first. Scottie lurking. Even DJ isn't entirely out of it 5 back.
Speaking of fun, having major championship golf on at 9CST/10EST was pretty cool and unique.
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Clark blames his late bogey and Fowler's late bogey on finishing in the dark. IMO, it was the marine layer descending as much as the time of day, but the announcers commented on the flat light on the greens on the last few holes. Easy to miss subtle breaks.
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The penalties for being in the rough and bunkers seem to be averaging a stroke. However there doe not seem to be many double bogey holes . With the wide fairways , it seems like there are many opportunities for birdies with good approach shot
I think some near the top can shoot a 67 and win it.
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speaking of missing the "mock" bwhahahahaha
big rick sticks another one while the euros let out a collective gasp
I talked to my contacts in the Team Euro camp. They love the way the American team is shaping up.
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The penalties for being in the rough and bunkers seem to be averaging a stroke. However there doe not seem to be many double bogey holes . With the wide fairways , it seems like there are many opportunities for birdies with good approach shot
I think some near the top can shoot a 67 and win it.
I’ll be surprised if anyone not in the top-4 wins. Fowler hasn’t had a bad stretch of golf through 54 holes and minimized any damage. His bugaboo through the years has been avoiding others on the scorecard during tournaments.
Clark hasn’t been in the heat of a moment like this yet. Is he a Lucas Glover or one of many final pairing surprises that fades? I’m kind of pulling for him since most fans will be cheering for Rory or Fowler.
Rory hasn’t closed in a major in 9 years. There is a lot of scar tissue. He’s been pretty consistent this week but will the wedges abandon him?
Scottie is the best of the bunch but the putter is a massive concern. Can he make short par saves, much less birdies?
Fascinating stories abound. Rahm bullied Brooks at Augusta, Brooks returned the favor to Viktor at Oak Hill. Majors have been compelling so far and today sure seems to have the ingredients
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Loving the prime-time drama!
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course seems a little too "gimmicky" for me. i guess if you have to cram a "championship" course for the well heeled near a big city, this is what you get...they for got the windmills and clown mouths
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course seems a little too "gimmicky" for me. i guess if you have to cram a "championship" course for the well heeled near a big city, this is what you get...they for got the windmills and clown mouths
It was built around 1900 when LA had a population of 100,000.
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I won't watch but it's hard not to root for Rickie Fowler.
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NBC coverage is an abomination. I mean, it’s terrible. Range shots, players being announced, sappy pieces but hardly any golf. Sky Sports runs circles around them
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NBC coverage is an abomination. I mean, it’s terrible. Range shots, players being announced, sappy pieces but hardly any golf. Sky Sports runs circles around them
It’s trash.
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Rickie starting out a bit shaky on a couple of shots. Wyndham and Rory playing with some confidence.
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Wyndham Clark playing with a lot of confidence.
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He told Rico that he was optimistic.
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I get the feeling Rory is going to have a good round, but get beat again by Clark having a better round. Just like last years Open Championship where Cam Smith played incredible down the stretch.
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He told Rico that he was optimistic.
I talked to his agent this morning and he felt confident.
Sort of interesting following on social media and seeing people bummed he’s playing so well thus far. Opportunities have been there for the other leaders. They haven’t played as well. No one is getting crowned through 7 holes
EDIT: 🤷🏼♂️
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Yup. Nobody else is charging forward.
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Xander is done.
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Rory putting like the open last year. Nothing will drop.
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Make a damn putt Rory
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Make a damn putt Rory
He might still get crowned
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And then there were 2.
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And then there were 2.
Tiger could still win it
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He might still get crowned
Yeah, he might win this with a 35 putt final round.
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Euro Ryder Cup team trembling.
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Euro Ryder Cup team trembling.
There’s a chance JT gets left off, so they might be worried about that
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Rory about to get a huge break
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Indeed. Could have been over right there.
Instead, mostly over.
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Indeed. Could have been over right there.
Instead, mostly over.
Bad wedges, man.
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Rory can't get it done when it counts.
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Rory can't get it done when it counts.
Ricky and Xander did not earn any coffee today.
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Crowning still possible
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Crowning still possible
That bunker shot will be a doozy.
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Rory not taking the crown
But catches another huge break. Lordy
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Congratulations to Wyndham Clark. He seized the crown.
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What a frustrating round to watch
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It was a typical final round. A frontrunner got a lead and held on. A chaser kept burning edges. Pretenders fell back.
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Clark catches a break on his drive on the 72nd hole because the USGA and R & A didn’t reign back equipment 🙃
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rein
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Have a round scheduled with Wyndham Clark at Hoylake. Should be fun
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Quality neck.
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Quality neck.
Will help the Ryder Cup team.
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Thank you for your service.
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Concession prices have been debated elsewhere. Apparently, the answer to high concession prices is to have Meijer be the title sponsor of your golf tournament.
$1 bottles of water and cans of pop. And chips, cookies, fruit.
$2 hot dogs
$3 brats/Italian sausage
$4 hamburgers
$3 Miller Lite/Coors light, etc
$4 Oberon, Two Hearted, Modelos, White Claw, etc.
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Have a round scheduled with Wyndham Clark at Hoylake. Should be fun
Shut up and golf, aina?
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Concession prices have been debated elsewhere. Apparently, the answer to high concession prices is to have Meijer be the title sponsor of your golf tournament.
$1 bottles of water and cans of pop. And chips, cookies, fruit.
$2 hot dogs
$3 brats/Italian sausage
$4 hamburgers
$3 Miller Lite/Coors light, etc
$4 Oberon, Two Hearted, Modelos, White Claw, etc.
Sounds like you had a lot of fun at the event
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I did. But I don't drink enough to really appreciate those beer prices. 3 diet Pepsi's, 2 bottle of water.
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Rory whiffs a chip on Thursday. Rory loses by a shot on Sunday.
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I'm thinking about going down to Pebble to on July 6th to watch the women's 2nd rd.
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You absolutely should.
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I'm thinking about going down to Pebble to on July 6th to watch the women's 2nd rd.
Highly recommend it. Pebble is a fantastic walk and there are many great spots to watch the action.
Everyone hits 6, 7, 17 and 18. Behind the green at 11 is an underrated spot. Small green that’s hard to hit and requires a lot of imagination to save par if you miss.
Green by 3 is a good spot, too. Depending where the tee box is, the shot is blind and you’ll see a lot of interesting approach shots.
8th, 9th and 14th fairways are good, too
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You absolutely should.
I guess it's the 7th. Anyway I hope I can pull it off.
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https://nypost.com/2023/06/20/wyndham-clark-accused-of-breaking-rule-in-us-open-controversy/
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https://nypost.com/2023/06/20/wyndham-clark-accused-of-breaking-rule-in-us-open-controversy/
surprises me the players take such risks approaching their ball in these situations. they showed rahm at #16 playing touchy-feeling with his wedge when the ball clearly moved and was penalized after the fact.
there was another situation, forget who it involved. was taking a drop on an embankment. the ball had trouble holding it's position. when it finely held, but very perilously, the player, it might have been wyndham, kept jagging around the ball, looking at it's position with respect to club, walking around it, etc etc i wouldn't be anywhere near the thing until i was ready to hit it