Vaccinations & Antibodies

[Warriors4ever]

https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/49387011

Help me out here. The PGA does not require vaccines for its employees. Why would someone need a religious exemption from testing and masking, which are their required protocols for the unvaxxed? What religious beliefs does testing violate?

[jficke13]

https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/49387011

Help me out here. The PGA does not require vaccines for its employees. Why would someone need a religious exemption from testing and masking, which are their required protocols for the unvaxxed? What religious beliefs does testing violate?

The right to use religion to behave like an pretty boy?

[Uncle Rico]

When are you going to turn the corner? When Fr. Fauci says its ok to breathe again? The vaccine has limited efficacy. Waitin' on effective, available therapeutics.
BTW, should Gov. DeSantis decide to pursue the presidency in 2024, FD Joe, Harris, or Mayor Pete can't beat him, hey?

He’ll get primaried by Mart Gaetz

[4everwarriors]

Funny how the same people who "didn't trust the vaccine" when Trump was the president, now are its biggest advocates. Our current Vice President vowed, over a year ago, she wouldn't take the vaccine if told to by President Trump. Interesting how that works, aina?

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

I think it’s even funnier to see how this pro/anti bleach fanatics whipped around. 

[tower912]

She also said she would take it if the scientists said it was safe.  Trusted science, not Trump.  Simple.  Clear.

And I won't truly move past COVID until my sense of smell returns to normal.  It has been a year.  Still hopeful.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

At this point I am more worried about the surge in mental illness amongst dentists than I am about COVID.

[jesmu84]

Something tells me that you don't understand "efficacy."

https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/covid-19-vaccine-efficacy-and-effectiveness

He's a medical professional though

[Hards Alumni]

Funny how the same people who "didn't trust the vaccine" when Trump was the president, now are its biggest advocates. Our current Vice President vowed, over a year ago, she wouldn't take the vaccine if told to by President Trump. Interesting how that works, aina?

You're so enlightened.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Funny how the same people who "didn't trust the vaccine" when Trump was the president, now are its biggest advocates. Our current Vice President vowed, over a year ago, she wouldn't take the vaccine if told to by President Trump. Interesting how that works, aina?

Hey, let's recycle talking points from last Spring.  That'll show 'em!!!

[MU82]

Funny how the same people who "didn't trust the vaccine" when Trump was the president, now are its biggest advocates. Our current Vice President vowed, over a year ago, she wouldn't take the vaccine if told to by President Trump. Interesting how that works, aina?

Funny how the same people who claim Trump deserves credit for inventing the vaccine don't trust the very vaccine they claim their god invented.

I know you'd do anything Trump would tell you to do, including get down on all 4s and squeal like a pig, but why would any normal person take any medication before scientists tell them it's safe to do so?

When the scientists said the vaccines were safe, the vice president got the vaccine publicly, as did her husband, as did the president, as did his wife. Meanwhile, your god got his in private, lest he upset the anti-vaxxers, and he's now saying he probably won't get a booster because he knows that's what his gullible sheeple want to hear.

Interesting how that works, nu?

[Pakuni]

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2021-11-17/sweden-to-introduce-covid-vaccine-passes-for-indoors-events?context=amp

Well well well. Look who is introducing vaccine passes.

Should we still be like Sweden?

[Pakuni]

Funny how the same people who "didn't trust the vaccine" when Trump was the president, now are its biggest advocates. Our current Vice President vowed, over a year ago, she wouldn't take the vaccine if told to by President Trump. Interesting how that works, aina?

Seems reasonable, tbh.

"If the public health professionals, if Dr. Fauci, if the doctors tell us that we should take it, I’ll be the first in line to take it. Absolutely. But if Donald Trump tells us that we should take it, I’m not taking it."

[4everwarriors]

At this point I am more worried about the surge in mental illness amongst dentists than I am about COVID.

T-Squared, bring that up at the next dental society meeting in Fond du Lac. You'll be laughed right off the floor, aina?

[jficke13]

T-Squared, bring that up at the next dental society meeting in Fond du Lac. You'll be laughed right off the floor, aina?

You meet in Fondy... but why?

[pbiflyer]

You don't live in his state, so this does not concern you. And, for those who do, they can move to tax hell California and be among like minded folks, aina?

Or those that do just vote his azz out of office and make Florida great again!

[TSmith34, Inc.]

T-Squared, bring that up at the next dental society meeting in Fond du Lac. You'll be laughed right off the floor, aina?

Ooooooo, the dental society meeting in Fond du Lac. What a prestigious event.

[4everwarriors]

Ok cool, want to make a bigger fool of yourself? Do it at the Mid-Winter or ADA convention, hey?

[jesmu84]

A fool is definitely being made here

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Ok cool, want to make a bigger fool of yourself? Do it at the Mid-Winter or ADA convention, hey?

To quote Milwaukee's own...

"Did I happen to mention that I'm impressed?"

I imagine roqqet's keynote "Ivermectin: Why Scientific Data is Passé" will be quite the barnburner, but it is "Dr." Gosar's breakout session on creating do-it-yourself beheading anime that will be the real draw.

[MU82]

The vaccines are powerful, even for those who have had COVID. But then again, anybody with any common sense who has read any real scientific studies already knew that.

From Bloomberg New Service:

It was meant to be a summer vacation to celebrate. Thousands of revelers flocked to Provincetown, Massachusetts, for the July Fourth holiday, fully immunized against COVID-19 and ready to enjoy new freedoms, including socializing without face masks.

Instead, the weather turned cool and rainy, and the festivities shifted indoors to pubs, clubs and private homes, creating a crucible for the effectiveness of vaccines used to contain the uber-transmissible delta variant. More than 1,000 COVID cases ensued over the following two weeks, rocking confidence in the inoculations and prompting the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to reinstate an indoor masking mandate.

Four months later, researchers studying those who contracted the virus are gaining important insights into the immunity-bolstering effects of natural infection after vaccination. Importantly, their findings offer clues about the immune protection needed for the coronavirus to cease being a public-health menace and, ultimately, to end the pandemic.

“Our data really puts a different perspective on the Provincetown cohort,” said Dan Barouch, a Harvard Medical School professor and head of Boston’s Beth Israel Deaconess’ Center for Virology and Vaccine Research. “Initially, it was viewed as evidence of vaccine failures. I would actually argue it’s evidence of vaccine success. These vaccines are doing what they are intended to do.”

The outbreak in Provincetown, the small resort town located at the tip of Cape Cod that’s known colloquially as “P-town,” was the first well-described, large cluster of infections with the delta variant in a highly vaccinated population. Some three-quarters of the COVID cases occurred in people who had two doses of either the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines, or the single Johnson & Johnson shot, at least 14 days earlier.

Almost 80% of these so-called breakthrough infections were symptomatic. Although the majority led to only mild-to-moderate illness, the COVID surge in the face of high vaccination rates prompted an intense investigation by state and local health officials.

They found the amount of viral material on nasal swabs was similar in vaccinated and unvaccinated people. That surprising finding undercut overly optimistic expectations that the inoculations could eliminate SARS-CoV-2 transmission, particularly given the twice-as-infectious delta strain.

Disease detectives at Boston’s Broad Institute used genomic sequence data to trace the outbreak to just a handful of infected people, including one who was the likely source of more than 80% of cases. Their work proved COVID could spread between fully vaccinated people. Intriguingly, the disease sleuths also found those infected in Provincetown – who came from 21 states – contributed only modestly to the delta-fueled U.S. epidemic after they returned home.

The outcome was comforting because it backed what’s already known about immunization, said Helen Petousis-Harris, a vaccinologist at the University of Auckland.

“Vaccination against COVID-19 is the best way to prevent getting severely ill and dying from COVID, but it doesn’t completely stop everyone who gets it from being infected with the SARS-CoV-2 virus or from transmitting it,” she said. “However, if you are vaccinated and you get infected, you’re less likely to spread the virus than if you’re unvaccinated.”

Detailed analysis performed in Barouch’s Harvard lab helps explain why. He and colleagues studied the immune responses of 35 vaccinated people tested for COVID in the Provincetown outbreak. Those who got a breakthrough infection had a dramatic increase in levels of virus-blocking antibodies and virus-killing T cells, including 34-fold higher neutralizing antibody levels against the delta variant, compared with those who weren’t infected.

An infection five to six months after vaccination jolted the body’s immune memory into gear to generate potent, delta-specific antibodies and T cells that helped clear the virus before it caused severe illness or had the chance to spread.

That the vaccines are the very best way to get back to "normal" is not news -- or at least shouldn't be. This is more confirmation.

[forgetful]

You really can't make this stuff up.

Anti-vax doctors at a conference touting alternatives to prevent COVID, get COVID at a Florida conference.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/nov/23/florida-doctors-covid-coronavirus-bruce-boros

[tower912]

God laughs.

[pbiflyer]

You really can't make this stuff up.

Anti-vax doctors at a conference touting alternatives to prevent COVID, get COVID at a Florida conference.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/nov/23/florida-doctors-covid-coronavirus-bruce-boros

Were any of them dentists?

[4everwarriors]

Nah, butt dey wur old and white, hey?