Kolek planning to go pro
lol. Is this where we are really at, finding info on epoch times.Sad, sad times indeed.
Any meaningful input on the work being done by the folks at Harvard, Tufts, etc or just saving the thoughtful hard hitting analysis for your opinions on Epoch Times.
Why does it matter how many hospitalizations are associated to Covid, you serious Clark? #keepsciencing right Tower!
Mild cases vs severe cases, yes, why does it matter? Pray tell.
Asymptomatic cases are getting looped in as well. We’ve been talking about the stress hospitals are currently under with census, extra resources needed when treating a Covid positive, etc and there is now solid data showing that half of these patients should be at home sleeping it off like Tower did.Hospitalization rate affects policy and ultimately these Covid positive who are asymptomatic or have mild symptoms are getting included in the IFR data as well when it had nothing to do with the death. It matters for everything, especially for pediatric population as a lot of those guidelines/policy is still being put together.
You act like it was the staff of the Epoch times who did the retrospective studies. By poo pooing this article it’s not the Epoch times legitimacy your questioning it’s the medical professionals at Tufts, Harvard Medical School, and the VA who did the work. So let’s take the messenger out of it. Below is PDF to the study. Thoughts on that?https://assets.researchsquare.com/files/rs-898254/v1/f2800895-4df3-4945-85ae-c1be66aaca23.pdf?c=1631889328
Of course this is only true if you ignore that massive paragraph on limitations
At the very top of the page:"Preprints are preliminary reports that have not undergone peer review. They should not be considered conclusive, used to inform clinical practice or referenced by the media as validated information."
Absolutely, it was a follow up to the other peer reviewed studies out of California that I posted a day or so earlier showing the same thing. Obviously peer reviewed is gold standard but with standard c19 testing for all patients going into the hospital it shouldn’t be shocking that a lot of patients are getting caught up in that giant net of c19 positivity who are showing minima to no symptoms but are going in for a hip replacement, appendicitis, etc.As more and more people get vaccinated if we don’t start categorizing or explaining in better detail what these hospitalizations truly represent I think it will further feed the anti-vaccine movement.
This isn't the smoking gun that you seem to think it is.
Please for the love of god stop responding to the obvious troll
Not sure I’m looking for a “smoking gun” but as the below study shows and what has become widely known is that even if you’re double poked you can still get c19. If we don’t stop universally testing every hospitalized patient for c19 it’s going to start painting vaccine efficacy (when it comes to preventing hospitalization at least) in a much more negative light then it should be. If this fall when we have a bunch of people getting elective surgeries who are vaccinated but still testing positive (despite minor symptoms) without providing clarification to their symptoms it’s going to make vaccine hesitant people feel more empowered/reluctant to get the shot imo. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7038e3.htm?s_cid=mm7038e3_x#suggestedcitation
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Not that I don't agree with everything you posted here but this is the coronavirus thread not general politics. This seems to be just general politics.