Oso planning to go pro
Fischer was more of a Crean leftover, he had a semester of practice under Buzz.
Interesting. According to this objective ranking, Wojo’s best season was the year three of “Buzz’s leftovers” were seniors and played important roles on the team. Yep, Buzz truly left a bare cupboard.
TAMUI do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.
+1Why is “Wojo got better every year” stated as a fact? Wojo made the dance in year 3, and missed it in year 4. It seems like he got worse once Buzz’s leftovers were no longer on the team.
Left Crean to play for Buzz = Buzz leftover.
If the best thing you can say about the cupboard is that they "played important roles" as seniors on a team that earned a 10 seed...
More like "Left Crean because homesickness; came to Marquette because close to home."
This is a no good, very bad take. Perhaps you should take a second look at that year three roster.
More like "Hated the culture at Indiana".
Please explain.
College basketball goes in cycles. Teams have up years, teams have down years. If you're doing it right, you have at least two up years to every down year. Year 4 was always going to be a down year due to how many people were graduating. The last time that many players graduated was Wojo's 1st year and they had a sub .500 record. Next down year was year 4 and they just missed the dance. That's improvement. Next down year is next year. Goal should be to still make the tournament despite losing Markus, Ed, Jayce, and Sacar. As long as each cycle is getting better you're improving.[/quotesOne "up" year is a cycle that's followed by a "down" year? Not at any successful program I've ever seen. Cycles, maybe. Cycles that last one year? No way. Sorry - misread - your cycles are 2 up, one down. I don't see year#2 in the Wojo regime as part of an up cycle. Our Pomeroy ranking was virtually the same as the previous year - in the 90s.
You're a smart guy. I'm sure you can Google the roster, review the minutes played, leading scorers, advanced stats, etc., and figure it out.
I know "bare cupboard" is an accepted "fact" around here but the roster Wojo inherited had seven (7) rsci top100 players on it. One senior (#81), one junior (#82) four sophomores (#30, #54, #59, #71) and one freshman (#75). Four left before they completed eligibility, one struggled with injuries - so some mitigating circumstances. But how many top 100 guys does a new MU coach generally inherit?
College basketball goes in cycles. Teams have up years, teams have down years. If you're doing it right, you have at least two up years to every down year. Year 4 was always going to be a down year due to how many people were graduating. The last time that many players graduated was Wojo's 1st year and they had a sub .500 record. Next down year was year 4 and they just missed the dance. That's improvement. Next down year is next year. Goal should be to still make the tournament despite losing Markus, Ed, Jayce, and Sacar. As long as each cycle is getting better you're improving.
Way too reasonable take on the situation. This will not register with the wojo haters.
When Wojo was hired, which do you think was a more valuable indicator of talent? Juan Anderson's RSCI ranking from 3 years ago? Or Juan's three year career at Marquette? Cause I think the latter tells you a lot more about how good the player actually was. Same goes for Steve Taylor, Jajuan Johnson, Luke Fischer, and the rest.Wojo inherited a team that missed the NIT....then lost 5 of its top 6 players in terms of minutes played....and the 1 was Derrick Wilson.
Juan has been invited to the Warriors training camp this season.......
He inherited a freshman (Sandy Cohen) who was talented and left. Four sophomores who were talented - JJJ, uber talented but never developed, Fish, who actually regressed, Duane, who had some injuries and left and Deonte, who was the best of them all but left. One junior, Steve Taylor - solid but left. And one senior (Juan) who never fulfilled his promise.So, lots of excuses (some valid) but still seven (7) rsci top 100 guys. No new MU coach ever inherited nearly that many. So not a totally bare cupboard like some suggest.
Now there is some world class rationalization. Well done.
I'll stick with my opinion on Gold. He'll be in foul trouble within the first eight minutes.
Here we go again....should we look to see how some of those top 100 RSCI players turned out over the years? Erik Williams. Fulce. Steve Taylor. Etc etc Just because you land there doesn't mean you should, or doesn't mean the recruiting "experts" totally messed up.
Fulce?