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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: mileskishnish72 on January 01, 2020, 07:48:37 PM
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We got this?
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Creighton sucks.
Blue jay livers on the menu. Goes good as a side dish to a tomahawk ribeye
Markus for 52 points, and SOTG.
GO WARRIORS!!!!
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MU defense the difference.
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Let’s gooooooooo
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Looking forward to a high scoring game
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Feeding our unskilled post guys. Love it.
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Well Koby gonna be out this half anyways.
2 fouls
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Creighton up 3-0 18:26 left
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Creighton 7 Sacar 5 17:29
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Unleash jayce. This is ugly.
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This team is tiny and they’re burning us inside. Not good.
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do not get cbssn and when I try ESPN Radio online to listen I only get the Sugar Bowl....rats
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They look poorly coached.
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13-7 Creighton 14:53
Markus with only one shot so far
Koby two fouls
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Playing very dumb rn
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Unleash jayce. This is ugly.
Jayce is such a terrible fit for this game
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Sloppy stuff.
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Oof, tough start. That shot clock violation can't happen on the road. Gotta fix the mental mistakes like that.
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Jayce is such a terrible fit for this game
Because John and morrow looked competent.
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Ugly. Gather yourselves guys.
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Are they going to get Markus any shots or is everyone else just going to chuck it up there??
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Put Elliot in and let Markus run point.
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do not get cbssn and when I try ESPN Radio online to listen I only get the Sugar Bowl....rats
Here is the Creighton Radio link
https://tunein.com/radio/1620-the-Zone-KOZN-s34608/
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The Bluejays are not a team you want to give a lot of open transition looks
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Jamal. Every game with that “stutter step” travel. Come on bud.
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Here is the Creighton Radio link
https://tunein.com/radio/1620-the-Zone-KOZN-s34608/
Thanks!
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What's the deal with this team and traveling? I just don't get it. Those turnovers could be a real Achilles' heal this year.
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Symir’s passing is just so great.
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Ballock beating us off the dribble isn’t ideal.
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17-14 Creighton 11:28 left first
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Silver lining: we’re playing like dogsh!t and are only down 3.
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Put koby back in. It won't matter if he picks up his third if we're down 29.
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Thanks!
The New Marquette Gameday App has the link for the radio boardcast.
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Put koby back in. It won't matter if he picks up his third if we're down 29.
Umm... we are down 3, not 23
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Umm... we are down 3, not 23
And? Does this game look pretty or Marquette is in any way in control?
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McDermmott betting on us being tired 8 mins into the game?
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Symir is getting taken behind the woodshed defensively.
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tough sequence there with a three out of the time out for Creighton followed up by the offensive foul by Jayce. They look a little out of sorts right now. Maybe the guys are still trying to adjust to not having Koby on the floor?
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Ed Morrow is working his ass off.
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Really annoyed the Big East opener is on CBS sports...
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Assist Markus to Bailey
then their Marcus goes the other way and scores.
22-17 Creighton
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Cant stay in front of them.
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Ed Morrow is working his ass off.
But still has a hard time finishing around the rim. That's a skill he should have down by now.
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Why can’t we finish inside of five feet?
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Ed Morrow is working his ass off.
He can work his ass off as much as he wants. Ugly as unnatural carnal knowledge.
Thank God wojo agrees with me on koby.
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Same with Jamal. Jamal can’t hit a layup. Symir can’t hit a layup. Morrow can’t hit a dunk.
Good times. Fix it second half please.
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Better defense (very doable). Make your shots (very doable).
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Morrow has zero composure there.
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Jesus Ed... Be smarter.
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The New Marquette Gameday App has the link for the radio boardcast.
It annoys me that you can't stream it on your laptop/desktop anymore though.
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Creighton dude kind of fell over himself
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Wow, Ed with the head in arm throw there. Not a good decision by the fifth year senior. It's fine to be frustrated that he didn't convert the bucket, but he can't react like that. Sit him.
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Flop on that jones guy.
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Koby is a disappointment
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Chat Room open
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Our big guys are just so disappointing.
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This smells like a situation where they hit a dagger 3 now.
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Ed is trash.
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It was a flop, but Ed can’t put himself in that position.
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It annoys me that you can't stream it on your laptop/desktop anymore though.
Interesting. I didn't know that.
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Markus has two now.
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Now Markus with another dumb foul.
We are in big trouble
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If wojo takes Howard out it's a gg.
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Theo has the weakest hands I’ve ever seen.
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Theo John, look like Tarzan, play like Jane.
Can't lose that ball.
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Another missed layup and they bang a 3
Our 2 pt offense is embarrassing and it’s simply not improving
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I don’t like our chances to win if Markus goes scoreless.
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John gets stripped in the post again. By a guy 100 pounds smaller. Again.
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Interesting. I didn't know that.
I've tried several times this year using the ESPN link and it never works
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Wow, Theo has just so bad hands. Loses so many rebounds and passes. That cost 3.
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Game not over.
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For the strongest guy on the team, Theo sure is weak with the ball.
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In games like this, I wish we had an extra non-con game or two on the road to prepare for the conference season. This feels like it's just mental issues right now.
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I don’t like our chances to win if Markus goes scoreless.
Not sure what the hell they are doing on offense tonight...Markus isn't driving or shooting when he does get it, and everyone else is running the point. He's not getting enough touches.
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John strongest guy out there.. weakest grip
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Lappas is horrific. Just spouts endless cliches or generalities in his grating accent
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John is the biggest guy on the court yet he plays like a 10 year old girl
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John stripped a 3rd time. Then gets burned on defense.
Put Howard and jayce in. Doesn't matter if they have 2.
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Theo, Ed, and Jayce. The three stooges.
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Mahoney pure power move
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Jeez why don't some of ya'll chill with the insults.
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Stop. Forcing. Passes. To. The. Centers
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Should have had a 4th strip. Got bailed with the foul.
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Not sure what the hell they are doing on offense tonight...Markus isn't driving or shooting when he does get it, and everyone else is running the point. He's not getting enough touches.
Agree. This is the problem with playing him off the ball.
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Yes, we are an elite defense, just as the lame announcer said.
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Lappas is horrific. Just spouts endless cliches or generalities in his grating accent
Could tell fun story about him at NCAA tournament hosted by MU....but then would be accused of name dropping so I shall pass
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Yes, we are an elite defense, just as the lame announcer said.
Very disappointed in the defensive positioning tonight. McDermott guys are just playing with a higher basketball IQ right now.
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Wojo needs to find a way to get Markus involved in the second half. Maybe even get him back in to close out the first half. When you're down on the road, you might need to take a few more risks than usual.
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Agree. This is the problem with playing him off the ball.
I think Howard might be one of the worst points in d1. But crap does he need to bring it up right now.
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How is it possible that we have no bigs that can generate offense? Any time one of our bigs has the ball with his back to the basket I cringe. It’s atrocious.
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CU getting to the basket with little resistance. Our perimeter guys are not having the same success. Jays shooting 64% and only up 10.
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Wojo will get us straightened out at half.
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Can't tell who's softer. Ed or Theo.
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Wojo will get us straightened out at half.
:-X
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Honestly, just stop playing with a center. Ours are useless..
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This team will finish in the bottom three of the Big East.
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I think Howard might be one of the worst points in d1.
Not a very well informed opinion.
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Howard and morrows sequence right there sums up this game.
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Wojo needs to find a way to get Markus involved in the second half. Maybe even get him back in to close out the first half. When you're down on the road, you might need to take a few more risks than usual.
As usual, Wojo is clueless
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Stop passing to ed and theo unless its wide open.. jeez. Just put Cain in at 5. Of course our guys collide into each other and they get the offensive rebound
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What’s the difference between our bigs and 15 fouls? I have no punch line or anything. Honestly not sure at this point.
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Just completely outmatched. On the floor and on the sidelines.
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Not xa very well informed opinion.
See - the last play. No competent point gets trapped in that position, then makes that pass.
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This team will finish in the bottom three of the Big East.
Should be a good game with DePaul then.
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Stop passing to ed and theo unless its wide open.. jeez. Just put Cain in at 5. Of course our guys collide into each other and they get the offensive rebound
Not sure what games your watching.. But being wide open is no guarantee for either of them.
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This is a perfect example of why I get so frustrated with Wojo...they are getting beat off the dribble like rented mules..switch it up, try a zone or something.
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Theo John, look like Tarzan, play like Jane.
Can't lose that ball.
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SourLeanConey-max-1mb.gif)
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TAKE THE CENTERS OUT WOJO
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What’s the difference between our bigs and 15 fouls? I have no punch line or anything. Honestly not sure at this point.
Jayce Johnson is a giant turd.
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Oooof even jayce can't defend. Thank God Howard is starting to go.
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Can't tell who's softer. Ed or Theo.
Jayce
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Oooof even jayce can't defend. Thank God Howard is starting to go.
Jayce Johnson’s line. 2 minutes and 3 fouls.
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If Howard and Sacar don’t combine for 50 each game we won’t win too many games
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Spreading us out and just driving past us.
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Johnson with 3 fouls in 3 minutes.
We got this.
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For seniors, Johnson and Morris sure do look like freshman.
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Johnson with 3 fouls in 3 minutes.
We got this.
Is that average or bad?
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If Howard and Sacar don’t combine for 50 each game we won’t win too many games
If Howard doesn't drop 60 each game**
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have to even out the fouls at some point. Might be good to play some zone 2nd half drives are killing us
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I just don’t understand how these Creighton players just blow past our guys.
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Jayce Johnson’s line. 2 minutes and 3 fouls.
I've given up on jayce.
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Man, we suck. Wojo for Secretary of defense.
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Our other guys have to make them pay for doubling Markus like Sacar did there.
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Can we hold them under 50 for the half?
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they hook and catch us on close outs very well coached team on ball movement spacing and driving
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C'mon Markus. Time and a place.
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Our bigs
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I just don’t understand how these Creighton players just blow past our guys.
Which is exactly why i said, they need to TRY zone. At least a few possessions and see how Creighton handles it. It's one of my biggest frustrations with Wojo.
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Ugly game against an average Big East team. Is there a game plan? Serious confusion.
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I'm starting to really not like our bigs. Talk about frustration....
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Man, I just really dislike Creighton and their fans.
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CU on pace for a 100...
Theo in doghouse big time right now, Bailey playing the five now, with Jayce the human foul machine and Morrow playing terrible.
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All things considered, this could be a lot worse than trailing 10.
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I think they will struggle on the road all year
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need to get back in transition and make them play slower. When they can run and make quick passes in transition that is when they get the open 3 looks and the open driving lanes
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Man, we suck. Wojo for Secretary of defense.
Better him then that f------ lobbyist we got in there now.
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I'm happy to see Markus force the issue a little bit to end the half there. Every team is going to focus on him, and he needs to be able to find ways to get shots off. The rest of the team needs to be more effective, though. When Markus gets doubled, they need to be able to hit shots or get to the basket (and finish by the basket too!).
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Wojos seat is on fire after this season. His only hope is howard carrying him to a 7 seed. This is pathetic. Really miss the hausers in a game like this.
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Creighton is like an upgraded version of us. We have the best player, but they have 2-4.
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The road games are gonna be rough. Not expecting many wins.
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Theo John ...
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Frustrating, but manageable. Markus started to go 1 on 5 a bit, but good to see him get going a bit. Really need to step up the perimeter defense.
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All things considered, this could be a lot worse than trailing 10.
Just wait until we play St. John's. With SJ's speed will be crushed.
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Man, I just really dislike Creighton and their fans.
I went to Creighton’s inaugural Big East Game against Marquette. Walking around the concourse before the game all their fans were really cool.
Ever since that game tipped I have found them to be incredibly whiny and downright annoying. Getting our doors blown off in that game didn’t help
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Ugly game against an average Big East team. Is there a game plan? Serious confusion.
Average. Humm.
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Yet another game thread one half in and everyone jumping to conclusions. Purdue anyone? For Koby to barely play and Markus just turning it on within the last few minutes, the CU lead is not nearly as bad as it could be. Another half. Let's see what happens.
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Yet another game thread one half in and everyone jumping to conclusions. Purdue anyone? For Koby to barely play and Markus just turning it on within the last few minutes, the CU lead is not nearly as bad as it could be. Another half. Let's see what happens.
Purdue is the exception.
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I just don’t understand how these Creighton players just blow past our guys.
Because we are prioritizing defending the three, clearly. We do need some help D though, but Creighton does a great job of spacing us out.
Typical sky is falling response....first conference game in a very tough environment against a good team. It's not going to be easy folks.
Shocked at Lappas's comment that Markus played about as bad as he could. I didn't see that at all. When he wasn't scoring because they were all over him defensively, he was getting guys wide open looks and didn't force anything. When he started forcing it a bit offensively, he scored a bunch in a row.
If Creighton stays hot and we don't defend better we're not going to pull this one out, but long way to go. Soft turnovers have to stop. Creighton definitely dictating things; our bigs are worthless in this game so far since they can't make Creighton pay for their small lineup.
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I'm starting to really not like our bigs. Talk about frustration....
Lol
Since when have they not been an instant turnover?
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Purdue is the exception.
Say that after the game. You're proving my point, currently.
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Yet another game thread one half in and everyone jumping to conclusions. Purdue anyone? For Koby to barely play and Markus just turning it on within the last few minutes, the CU lead is not nearly as bad as it could be. Another half. Let's see what happens.
Don't be so harsh, this must be the first basketball game they have watched.
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We’ve been down big here in the past and came back. Hoping they can make a run.
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After being hyper-critical about Ed and Theo early on did the guy who guys by #UnleashJayce really change his user namer mid-game?
Is there a Scoop Historian who can verify the uniqueness of this bold move?
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After being hyper-critical about Ed and Theo early on did the guy who guys by #UnleashJayce really change his user namer mid-game?
Is there a Scoop Historian who can verify the uniqueness of this bold move?
They all stink
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After being hyper-critical about Ed and Theo early on did the guy who guys by #UnleashJayce really change his user namer mid-game?
Is there a Scoop Historian who can verify the uniqueness of this bold move?
Did he do it because Jayce is bad?
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Because we are prioritizing defending the three, clearly. We do need some help D though, but Creighton does a great job of spacing us out.
Typical sky is falling response....first conference game in a very tough environment against a good team. It's not going to be easy folks.
Shocked at Lappas's comment that Markus played about as bad as he could. I didn't see that at all. When he wasn't scoring because they were all over him defensively, he was getting guys wide open looks and didn't force anything. When he started forcing it a bit offensively, he scored a bunch in a row.
This..... Markus isn’t forcing it and we have gotten multiple open looks because of it... but we will need him to ball out in the second half to win
If Creighton stays hot and we don't defend better we're not going to pull this one out, but long way to go. Soft turnovers have to stop. Creighton definitely dictating things; our bigs are worthless in this game so far since they can't make Creighton pay for their small lineup.
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Could tell fun story about him at NCAA tournament hosted by MU....but then would be accused of name dropping so I shall pass
Correct, no one cares
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This is why I wish every single year Wojo would get a competent offensive big. I want a guy you can dump it down to and it's almost always a guaranteed bucket. Doesn't seem like he prioritizes it for whatever reason.
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Average. Humm.
Yes, with `Nova, Butler, Xavier, Seton Hall ahead of Creighton. Next DePaul, St. John's, Creighton. Then MU, Providence, Georgetown. If we are fortunate we move into the second group.
Why is SJ's ahead of us? They will turn us over and over again. We are too slow and have no second or third option. This is the team Wojo built.
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Get out to a 5-0 run or so to start this half and let's see what happens. Also think Koby getting two quick fouls kind of messed up the defense the rest of the half..we'll see.
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I've been happy with Bailey's recent play.
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After being hyper-critical about Ed and Theo early on did the guy who guys by #UnleashJayce really change his user namer mid-game?
Is there a Scoop Historian who can verify the uniqueness of this bold move?
Because jayce was awful, I can't be critical of two other bad bigs? That makes sense.?
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I've been happy with Bailey's recent play.
He’s been a bright spot.
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Say that after the game. You're proving my point, currently.
Maybe just stay off game threads if you don't like people talking about games until they're over.
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Looking at the HT box score. I’m really surprised how close we are.
Creighton is shooting out of this world. Maybe if we can get them to come back down to earth.
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I've been happy with Bailey's recent play.
I agree with this analysis
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Koby *fart noises*
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Getting beat down the court and no fight. Sad
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Hopefully we can win the next 4 minutes
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Our offense seems to target corner 3s. With the new line, is it shorter in the corners like the NBA?
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Koby *fart noises*
He just hit the top of the backboard, right? That's not something you see every day.
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Because jayce was awful, I can't be critical of two other bad bigs? That makes sense.?
Shoot your shot, bruh.
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Koby *fart noises*
Nothing but the top of the backboard!!!
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McEwen hits the top of the backboard from the corner and then trots back on D. That was awesome.
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I’m not sure Koby should be on the floor. I’d rather have Elliott’s energy or there.
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Nothing but the top of the backboard!!!
and awful Transition d
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Could have cut to four and Koby hits the TOP of the backboard with that corner three shot. Never seen that. Then of course CU goes on a roll. Oh well...
That hurt
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I’m not sure Koby should be on the floor. I’d rather have Elliott’s energy or there.
agreed and he can hit an open 3
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and awful Transition d
Bad enough dude can’t shoot.
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This could be worse. All things considered we are in the game and have a chance.
And let's try not to bash the players.
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Nothing but the top of the backboard!!!
I'd hoped the break would have let him clear his head and come back with confidence, but he appears to have a bad case of the yips
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sounds like another wonder game from McEwen, boy has he been a great addition
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Zegarowski gives me some Devendorf vibes
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This could be worse. All things considered we are in the game and have a chance.
And let's try not to bash the players.
Happy to be in the game and have a chance....that's what this program has come to
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Yes, with `Nova, Butler, Xavier, Seton Hall ahead of Creighton. Next DePaul, St. John's, Creighton. Then MU, Providence, Georgetown. If we are fortunate we move into the second group.
Why is SJ's ahead of us? They will turn us over and over again. We are too slow and have no second or third option. This is the team Wojo built.
That would put Creighton as a tournament team. Doesn't qualify as average.
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A pick n roll with Koby and Ed is the absolute dumbest thing we could do.
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Our offense seems to target corner 3s. With the new line, is it shorter in the corners like the NBA?
I believe it is.
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On the positive side, I'm not that upset. I wasn't expecting that much from this team this year anyway.
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That would put Creighton as a tournament team. Doesn't qualify as average.
But average in the BE no??
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Looking at the HT box score. I’m really surprised how close we are.
Creighton is shooting out of this world. Maybe if we can get them to come back down to earth.
Oh. Jk. Ignore this comment.
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Out hustled and out played at every single position. Pathetic game. Our bigs should have shaped this game instead they are sitting on the bench. Where is the heart?
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The defense looks as bad as we've seen in recent years right now. We've dug a deep hole that's going to be awfully hard to get out of at this point.
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On the positive side, I'm not that upset. I wasn't expecting that much from this team this year anyway.
They are playing pretty pathetically and creighton is draining dumb threes but it's still kinda early in the conference season no? I'll stay away from the ledge for now. This team definitely can play better than this
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They will be fine. It's a tough road game to open conference play. Bounce back on Saturday.
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Creighton is simply playing harder
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Why haven’t we put Jayce back in??
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Zegarowski gives me some Devendorf vibes
I feeling the same thing but with Ballock.
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I don't mind losing this game. I hate losing this game by doing stupid things.
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But average in the BE no??
No.
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They are playing pretty pathetically and creighton is draining dumb threes but it's still kinda early in the conference season no? I'll stay away from the ledge for now. This team definitely can play better than this
Let the fans that immediately lose hope one game into conference play leave for a while.
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How does Creighton get wide-open looks and uncontested drives to the basket time and time again? It seems like every Marquette shot attempt is a massive struggle.
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I thought we could win 6 BE games this year. Tonight, I backed that position up. Perhaps I have undervalued home court advantage.
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Wojo getting coached out the gym
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No.
So 6th or 7th in the BE isn’t average. Got it.
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Winning on the road in the Big East this year is going to be tough no matter who you play I think the league is really good
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Man, their backcourt is so good compared to ours.
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Plain White Tee’s tomorrow (the clothing nothing the 90s acoustic pop band)?
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Winning on the road in the Big East this year is going to be tough no matter who you play I think the league is really good
But we are getting blown off the court. Shouldn’t we be competing?
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LMAOOOO
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In the last few defensive possessions, we have had awful transition and helpful d and yet no substitutions.
A lot of experienced dudes on the court. The lack of effort and passion is unacceptable and reflects horribly on coach and players
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So 6th or 7th in the BE isn’t average. Got it.
Not when 7 can easily make the tournament. How do we even know what place Creighton will be finish.
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Ok I’m sorry. But WTF are we doing. Dribbling around and just throwing the ball at Creighton.
This is disheartening. I’m disappointed.
A loss by 4-5 understandable. But we are getting worked.
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Winning on the road in the Big East this year is going to be tough no matter who you play I think the league is really good
Saturday should be a piece of cake then.
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Wojo getting coached out the gym
I have to agree. I am a Wojo fan but our strengths were completely neutralized. We failed to take advantage of any of their weaknesses. Pathetic game.
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gotta keep it under 30 for our NET ranking
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Ya. I’m a BIG Wojo fan. Always have been. But this is 3 WTF blow out games this season.
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Not when 7 can easily make the tournament. How do we even know what place Creighton will be finish.
I’m simply going off of his rankings. Not saying they are correct. I would say if you finish 6th or 7th in the BE you are average within the conference. I think that’s a fair assessment.
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I don't mind losing this game. I hate losing this game by doing stupid things.
And by not putting in the effort.
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Alright this is a joke.. lose? Ok fine. Get blown out of the water? Turnover city. Taking bad shots. Broken defense. Just humiliating
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I have to agree. I am a Wojo fan but our strengths were completely neutralized. We failed to take advantage of any of their weaknesses. Pathetic game.
Besides recruiting, what have you seen that's made you a wojo fan. It sure can't be the coaching.
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wojo has trashed this program. we have pre-season all American and still getting roasted against a middle of the pack Big East team. the talent on this team, with the exception of Markus, is no different than what wojo started with. need to send him back to duke when we get the chance
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The fact that we can't take advantage of them doubling Markus every single time is just horrible.
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Looking like an 8th or 9th place team this year.
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Besides recruiting, what have you seen that's made you a wojo fan. It sure can't be the coaching.
We have a clean program and are represented by fine young men. 🙄
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There is losing and then there is getting embarrassed. Yikes. Looking like it might be 0-2 to start the year off.
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Jayces is actually useless.
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What does Theo do?
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What does Theo do?
what do any of our 5s do?
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Theo came in, played two minutes. Did not hustle for ball after dropping it, Wojo just yanked him. Big time doghouse night for him.
Alexander an NBA prospect, giving Markus major problems in creating his shot. That will hinder Markus NBA hopes.
Not MU night.
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The fact that we can't take advantage of them doubling Markus every single time is just horrible.
Hmmmmm. It's almost like we had 2 players who could have helped with that.
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This MU team is a bottom of the BE team. Which, hopefully, still gets in the NCAA. Getting blow out on the road will be the norm.
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Creighton is really tough to guard especially in transition. On offense they play great helpside defense and are basically saying Sacar go ahead and try to get 30
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any positive signs with the defense during the non-conference season has just vanished in this one, about as bad as it can get
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Please...can someone...anyone, explain to me, why Wojo refuses to even try a zone?? They have played some this year so it's not like they don't know how. I have never understood why he allows things to get so out of hand in games before trying something else.
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what do any of our 5s do?
The guy is flat out butt cheeks
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For the amount of $$$ that is thrown at the basketball program it should be way better than it is.
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gotta keep it under 30 for our NET ranking
This should be a banner in the locker room.
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The guy is flat out butt cheeks
Jayce that is
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I’m simply going off of his rankings. Not saying they are correct. I would say if you finish 6th or 7th in the BE you are average within the conference. I think that’s a fair assessment.
Yet, that is not what Creighton has been so far this season, which makes his assessment as a hot take.
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The fact that we can't take advantage of them doubling Markus every single time is just horrible.
How has Wojo not gameplanned for that? Every single guy on the team should be ready for those situations in every game we play. That's a big coaching miss IMO.
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Jogging back n getting beat over the top in transition time after time is pretty disappointing. If u can even hustle what can u do?
Ed sacar marcus, jamal koby all jogging back pretty bad
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Why does MU still have a big on the floor? it's like 5 against 4 when MU is playing D, and it's like 6 against 4 on offense. None of the 3 bigs deserve to play in this game.
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Big Johnson had a tough day again today Chico’s.
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Great motivational speech in the huddle, Woj. That'll do it.
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This should be a banner in the locker room.
Post of the year lmao
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For the amount of $$$ that is thrown at the basketball program it should be way better than it is.
at some point fans need to start demanding this, rather than shrugging shoulders and settling for what we have (like DePaul does)
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What is it about Wojo's teams that make them so vulnerable to blowouts. When they lose everything seems to fall apart. Is it pace of play, toughness, coaching. I can take my team losing especially on the road but these blow outs are hard to handle
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Wojo, is clueless!
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Big Johnson had a tough day again today Chico’s.
It’s very easy to have bad games when your only attribute is that you’re tall
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How has Wojo not gameplanned for that? Every single guy on the team should be ready for those situations in every game we play. That's a big coaching miss IMO.
Ha wojo game plan? For the most obvious defensive counter against this team? Almost like Maryland ran the same thing? Were talking about wojo. There has never been a game plan. Only please Howard, your my only hope.
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I have to agree. I am a Wojo fan but our strengths were completely neutralized. We failed to take advantage of any of their weaknesses. Pathetic game.
Please don't criticize Wojo. You do NOT want to come under the wrath of Wadesworld or Cheeks.
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We can't dribble and we can't pass. It's unbelievable. Our role players can't do anything.
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Down 20 on the road, why bench Markus with 4 fouls? I'd roll the dice here.
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This game is tough to watch. At least in part because I expected our defense to be better than Creighton’s.
We also seem to be sooooo slow and predictable in our passing.
All that said, I wish we’d not call players trash or make other personal insults. We’re better than that.
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Ed Morrow would have 5 turnovers per 15 point game at my YMCA.
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Horrific team defensive effort.
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Please don't criticize Wojo. You do NOT want to come under the wrath of Wadesworld or Cheeks.
Insert the age old "who else could we have hired" defense.
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We are going to have one hell of a time in the BEast. The speedy teams will wipe us like this one. Omg. No defense.
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Please have Markus bring up the ball.
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Please don't criticize Wojo. You do NOT want to come under the wrath of Wadesworld or Cheeks.
You can criticize all you wish, all I ask is you be fair. When things are going well, some of you are literally gone for weeks. Or you cherry pick. Otherwise criticize all you wish.
I expected a loss tonight, not sure why so many of you didn’t. I’ve chuckled at the put downs of Creighton and any way to diminish MU which is the goal of some of you.
Good news is that Houston isn’t that muggy this time of year.
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I think the Creighton fans get free pizza when they score 75.
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Wadesworld or Cheeks, Wojo is a clueless coach, period.
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Insert the age old "who else could we have hired" defense.
Protest, cancel your tickets and your huge donations. Show them who is boss.
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I think the Creighton fans get free pizza when they score 75.
The silver lining. Our d got them free food
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Opening conference game blowout/very bad performance. People overreact. Rinse, repeat.
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Protest, cancel your tickets and your huge donations. Show them who is boss.
I took your advice last year and did.
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Wadesworld or Cheeks, Wojo is a clueless coach, period.
Oh look who came back from a long hiatus when we were winning...Happy New Year.
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I took your advice last year and did.
Pilot....the program is reeling as a result. LOL
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Protest, cancel your tickets and your huge donations. Show them who is boss.
correct, this is what it takes. to settle for the current state of the program is akin to saying we are fine with being DePaul
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Protest, cancel your tickets and your huge donations. Show them who is boss.
Or I could continue to just state how awful wojo is in his game plan and situational play that my drunk ass can see is wrong before he does.
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Wadesworld or Cheeks, Wojo is a clueless coach, period.
How soon you forget the historic 52 point win over Central Arkansas
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Pilot....the program is reeling as a result. LOL
Just letting you know since I’m assuming you wouldn’t think anyone actually would.
Don’t worry, I’m a tier 2, 2 seat, row Z type season ticket holder
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wait 'till the Johnnies get a hold of us. Anderson in his 1st year w/out his recruits will have his way
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Five "tough" games, three twenty point loses.
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correct, this is what it takes. to settle for the current state of the program is akin to saying we are fine with being DePaul
That's a low blow
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We're gonna need McEwen, but he is reaching Chartouny level of desperation right now in terms of lost confidence.
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You can criticize all you wish, all I ask is you be fair. When things are going well, some of you are literally gone for weeks. Or you cherry pick. Otherwise criticize all you wish.
I expected a loss tonight, not sure why so many of you didn’t. I’ve chuckled at the put downs of Creighton and any way to diminish MU which is the goal of some of you.
Good news is that Houston isn’t that muggy this time of year.
Chicos, honest question, isn't it fair to expect to have a better program 6 years in then we currently have?? It's basically been spinning it's wheels.
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Five "tough" games, three twenty point loses.
3 twenty point losses. 3 defenses with the same plan.
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Wojo blowjo, hey!
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Oh look who came back from a long hiatus when we were winning...Happy New Year.
Winning against powder puffs.
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Ballock is 4-8 from 3 and the announcers are acting like they are watching Klay Thompson score 30+ in a quarter
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correct, this is what it takes. to settle for the current state of the program is akin to saying we are fine with being DePaul
LOL. Yeah, that’s what it is akin to. :o
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We are a very dumb basketball IQ team.
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Are we just that unathletic that no one can even have a snow balls chance in hell to not get beat off the dribble
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What’s Jayce Johnson’s PER tonight?
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Very critical minutes here. Need to make a run so our NET ranking only drops 10 instead of 15.
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I expected a loss tonight, not sure why so many of you didn’t. I’ve chuckled at the put downs of Creighton and any way to diminish MU which is the goal of some of you.
But there's a huge difference between a hard fought loss and getting taken to the woodshed. We look awful. No defense, too many TOs, low energy, and lots of mental mistakes. This performance wouldn't beat any Big East team, and that's not hyperbole. A lot of things need to improve for us to compete in the conference this year.
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What is impressive to me is how much McDermott has improved as a strategy/game coach during his tenure at Creighton. When he arrived he was pretty clueless... give the ball to his kid and step back. After realizing Creighton is never going to attract high level talent he somehow learned how to coach. Kudos to him. He's making the BEAST better.
I honestly thought he would last less than 2 years after Doug left.
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Just letting you know since I’m assuming you wouldn’t think anyone actually would.
Don’t worry, I’m a tier 2, 2 seat, row Z type season ticket holder
You mean you were a tier 2, 2 seat row z type season ticket holder...or did you have a Freudian Slip?
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Send a message Wojo, put the walk ons in.
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I am not looking forward to seeing how this blowout affects our KenPom. Currently at 26....ugh.
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MU looks like they grabbed 10 guys from Times Square at 3:00 this morning, flew them to Omaha, gave them blue uniforms and told them to see what they can do out there
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You mean you were a tier 2, 2 seat row z type season ticket holder...or did you have a Freudian Slip?
I was.
You are correct
Thanks for the advice, looking forward to purchasing again once there’s a change.
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You can criticize all you wish, all I ask is you be fair. When things are going well, some of you are literally gone for weeks. Or you cherry pick. Otherwise criticize all you wish.
I expected a loss tonight, not sure why so many of you didn’t. I’ve chuckled at the put downs of Creighton and any way to diminish MU which is the goal of some of you.
Good news is that Houston isn’t that muggy this time of year.
I'm fair AF. It's been you and the other Projos who perpetually shift the goalposts for what is acceptable to expect from Wojo. The whole empty cupboard B.S. The transfers out of the Hausers, Deonte, the end to last season, the way the Wally thing went down, the lack of player development. Koby McEwen is a mess. Numerous examples of players regressing under Wojo's coaching.
But hey, glad you expected a 25 point blowout to #46 Creighton. This is exactly what we should expect in Year 6, right?
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correct, this is what it takes. to settle for the current state of the program is akin to saying we are fine with being DePaul
Have you seen DePaul lately? They will be very tough for us.
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This could be Creighton's 2nd largest margin of victory this year. "Cupcakes" have competed with them better than we did tonight
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Down 25 in conference opener with #10 Villanova up next (https://media2.giphy.com/media/7A4zkWeMXlZqgnTKtJ/giphy.gif?cid=19f5b51ab9f2cdd858d27e5bc38539cd032287efa21eb518&rid=giphy.gif)
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Chicos, honest question, isn't it fair to expect to have a better program 6 years in then we currently have?? It's basically been spinning it's wheels.
Talk to me in a few weeks, let’s see how we respond. Tonight has been awful
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I asked this earlier this year, but when do we become funny bad?? Some of the stuff out here is flat out comical.
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Have you seen DePaul lately? They will be very tough for us.
Wouldn't be surprised if they beat MU twice. Lots of length to double Howard off the high ball screens.
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Talk to me in a few weeks, let’s see how we respond. Tonight has been awful
Why not talk about the last 6 years? What happened to “5 years to judge?”
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I asked this earlier this year, but when do we become funny bad?? Some of the stuff out here is flat out comical.
I chuckled a few times. Guys hitting the backboard on corner 3s. Ridiculous brain dead turnovers and shots. Break downs.
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No tourney wins since lord knows when and we're just expected to think everything is going to turn out fine and be patient.
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Can't believe McDermott is risking their NET rating calling a timeout to put his walk-ins with with 2 minutes left in the game.
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Hopefully we can make a run against there walk ons to make the score look better eh
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Talk to me in a few weeks, let’s see how we respond. Tonight has been awful
Apparently you are satisfied with the results of the last six years. Some of us are not.
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Finally playing some defense in the last two minutes finally not playing matador defense.
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I was.
You are correct
Thanks for the advice, looking forward to purchasing again once there’s a change.
Hopefully it is 10+ years from now with the same coach at the helm.
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I chuckled a few times. Guys hitting the backboard on corner 3s. Ridiculous brain dead turnovers and shots. Break downs.
I laughed when Theo turned the ball over to start the game, and also when Morrow missed that dunk.
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I asked this earlier this year, but when do we become funny bad?? Some of the stuff out here is flat out comical.
The bad fundamentals are just mind boggling at this level. And the basketball IQ is much lower than I'd expect from such an experienced team. To think those things aren't a result of coaching is naive at best.
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Hopefully we can make a run against there walk ons to make the score look better eh
You kid, but losing by 17 instead of 26 helps our NET ranking and kenpom scores. That's about the only positive from this game.
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I laughed when Theo turned the ball over to start the game, and also when Morrow missed that dunk.
It’s now funny bad for me because I don’t expect anything. So I’m not that angry when we lose. Just so much to laugh at
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So after one round of games through BE play, MU is the recipient of the biggest blowout loss, and if you really think about it, in theory, this SHOULD have been one of their easier road games(at least one where you wouldn't expect them to get blown out, like maybe at Nova or Hall or something) in the BE(yes, I know none are easy). So they have that going for them anyway.
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The bad fundamentals are just mind boggling at this level. And the basketball IQ is much lower than I'd expect from such an experienced team. To think those things aren't a result of coaching is naive at best.
This.
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Why not talk about the last 6 years? What happened to “5 years to judge?”
Because in year 5 we made the NCAA tournament, just as we did on year 3 and the NIT in year 4. I expect year 6 we will also make the NCAA tournament and I don’t piss my pants at a road loss like some do.
I’d be happy to list a lot of programs right now that aren’t hitting all cylinders but you guys would do your typical “but they did well in years” past so they get a pass nonsense.
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I'm fair AF. It's been you and the other Projos who perpetually shift the goalposts for what is acceptable to expect from Wojo. The whole empty cupboard B.S. The transfers out of the Hausers, Deonte, the end to last season, the way the Wally thing went down, the lack of player development. Koby McEwen is a mess. Numerous examples of players regressing under Wojo's coaching.
But hey, glad you expected a 25 point blowout to #46 Creighton. This is exactly what we should expect in Year 6, right?
Wojo has proven he can't get the job done. Unfortunately , he has tremendous job security and only way we can get rid of him is if he does well enough for another school to hire him away. Hopefully he can rally the troops for Nova.
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We can't play like Duke when we don't have Duke type players. It doesn't look like Wojo can adapt to his level of talent
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The bad fundamentals are just mind boggling at this level. And the basketball IQ is much lower than I'd expect from such an experienced team. To think those things aren't a result of coaching is naive at best.
Agreed.
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Hopefully it is 10+ years from now with the same coach at the helm.
What is it about Wojo that makes you want him to be here 10 years from now? The perpetual looks to the future need to pan out at some point, don't they?
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I laughed when Theo turned the ball over to start the game, and also when Morrow missed that dunk.
That was a nice set play that was worked to perfection before Theo didn't come close to catching the ball. Poor memory on my part, perhaps, but I don't recall Theo struggling so much to catch simple passes the past couple years.
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Because in year 5 we made the NCAA tournament, just as we did on year 3 and the NIT in year 4. I expect year 6 we will also make the NCAA tournament and I don’t piss my pants at a road loss like some do.
I’d be happy to list a lot of programs right now that aren’t hitting all cylinders but you guys would do your typical “but they did well in years” past so they get a pass nonsense.
But to be fair Chicos, at least for me...I hate the comparisons to other programs...I don't care about other programs, I care about MU's program, and just because this program or that program is on a down swing, to me doesn;t make it okay that MU's isn;t where some of us think it should be by now. I expect more from MU's program.
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Apparently you are satisfied with the results of the last six years. Some of us are not.
That’s fine. Cancel your tickets, end your donations, show them who is boss.
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That’s fine. Cancel your tickets, end your donations, show them who is boss.
That should of happened in 1994 after the name change
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I personally can’t wait until Jayce has a 4 point 4 rebound game and then everyone says he’s good again. It’s coming soon. Trust me.
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I personally can’t wait until Jayce has a 4 point 4 rebound game and then everyone says he’s good again. It’s coming soon. Trust me.
“Big Johnson”
-chicos
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So after one round of games through BE play, MU is the recipient of the biggest blowout loss, and if you really think about it, in theory, this SHOULD have been one of their easier road games(at least one where you wouldn't expect them to get blown out, like maybe at Nova or Hall or something) in the BE(yes, I know none are easy). So they have that going for them anyway.
Uhm, why would this be one of the easier road games?
Have some of you been asleep or something?
Creighton has 2 losses. Undefeated San Diego State and Michigan. They are undefeated at home and 22nd in the NET to start this game...why again would this be one of the easier road games? Serious question...based on what exactly?
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I'm fair AF. It's been you and the other Projos who perpetually shift the goalposts for what is acceptable to expect from Wojo. The whole empty cupboard B.S. The transfers out of the Hausers, Deonte, the end to last season, the way the Wally thing went down, the lack of player development. Koby McEwen is a mess. Numerous examples of players regressing under Wojo's coaching.
But hey, glad you expected a 25 point blowout to #46 Creighton. This is exactly what we should expect in Year 6, right?
Post of the day.
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I would take Matt Heldt over Jayce all day. Not meant to be funny. Meant to be true.
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OK, this is one road game. It was in a notoriously tough place to play and we got our heads handed to us.
Big question is what character we have. This happens. But how you respond to it is key. Another game like this and I think I'm focusing on some other interest this winter. Tiddly winks maybe? Another one like this and, well, we're going nowhere outside Milwaukee County after the BE tourney.
Tonight was as hard to watch as Murray State!
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I just don't understand how someone can watch that game and the last X years and go, "I'm confident in the way this program is going."
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I would take Matt Heldt over Jayce all day. Not meant to be funny. Meant to be true.
It's an interesting comparison. But I'm struggling to support any of MU's bigs this year. Theo can't grasp the ball (literally), and isn't blocking last the past couple years. Ed throws the ball at the hoop and acts like a thug. Jayce should dominate a short team like Creighton but basically just picks up fouls. Sigh.
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I'm fair AF. It's been you and the other Projos who perpetually shift the goalposts for what is acceptable to expect from Wojo. The whole empty cupboard B.S. The transfers out of the Hausers, Deonte, the end to last season, the way the Wally thing went down, the lack of player development. Koby McEwen is a mess. Numerous examples of players regressing under Wojo's coaching.
But hey, glad you expected a 25 point blowout to #46 Creighton. This is exactly what we should expect in Year 6, right?
For you to say bare cupboard wasn’t real and pretend like those same guys did nothing but absolute crap under your guy is a joke....you have not been fair ever in this regard so take your nonsense elsewhere.
Creighton is #22 in NET before tonight’s game. I expect they will be top 20 y tomorrow.
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Credit tonight to Bailey. He showed up. 18 points, 11 rebounds and three assists.
Don't know what happened with Theo. Dropped some passes, then sat most of game, didn't even start second half. Played two minutes in second half and only had one foul the whole game.
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What is it about Wojo that makes you want him to be here 10 years from now? The perpetual looks to the future need to pan out at some point, don't they?
I think you missed what I said. Hopefully,
Because if in ten years he is still the head coach it means we are doing quite well. That is why.
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Credit tonight to Bailey. He showed up. 18 points, 11 rebounds and three assists.
Nice. Missed the double-double amidst all the chaos.
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Nice. Missed the double-double amidst all the chaos.
Chaos is a weird autocorrect for crap
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Apparently no one is going to answer the question...why was tonight supposed to be an easy win against an 11-2 team, on the road who has two losses...one to undefeated San Diego State and the other to Michigan...can someone explain why this was supposed to be easy or easier ? Based on what?
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Because if in ten years he is still the head coach it means we are doing quite well.
Not necessarily. If he continues to avoid scandal, his status is pretty much the reverse of that old Buzz quote: Marquette will have him as long as he’ll be here.
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Oh look who came back from a long hiatus when we were winning...Happy New Year.
Cheeks, our view points may differ but Happy New Year!
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Apparently no one is going to answer the question...why was tonight supposed to be an easy win against an 11-2 team, on the road who has two losses...one to undefeated San Diego State and the other to Michigan...can someone explain why this was supposed to be easy or easier ? Based on what?
I specifically stated not necessarily a win, but certainly one where they should have been in the game. Who cares what Creighton has done to this point. That's like saying DePaul and Georgetown are formidable because of their record this far. Once you get into conference play where teams know you, things are much different. Since when has Creighton ever played defense like they did tonight??
I figured MU's best chances at road wins would be Creighton, Providence, Georgetown and DePaul. Doesn't mean I think they would win them all, but their best chances.
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Nice. Missed the double-double amidst all the chaos.
23 boards in 2 games is impressive.
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I think you missed what I said. Hopefully,
Because if in ten years he is still the head coach it means we are doing quite well. That is why.
Not necessarily...he has been here 6 years already and hasn't really won anything of substance thus far. Not like MU teams in the past have after the same time frame anyway. So they may just keep him around regardless.
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I specifically stated not necessarily a win, but certainly one where they should have been in the game. Who cares what Creighton has done to this point. That's like saying DePaul and Georgetown are formidable because of their record this far. Once you get into conference play where teams know you, things are much different. Since when has Creighton ever played defense like they did tonight??
I figured MU's best chances at road wins would be Creighton, Providence, Georgetown and DePaul. Doesn't mean I think they would win them all, but their best chances.
Who cares what Creighton has done to this point?
Ok, Happy New Year Guru. Seriously.
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O wojo on the radio
Ducked it
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Uh .. I missed a few minutes post-game radio so I'm not sure .. did Wojo skip the post-game with Homer?
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For you to say bare cupboard wasn’t real and pretend like those same guys did nothing but absolute crap under your guy is a joke....you have not been fair ever in this regard so take your nonsense elsewhere.
Creighton is #22 in NET before tonight’s game. I expect they will be top 20 y tomorrow.
Lame Duck Buzz didn't give two craps his last year at MU. He had no real interest in developing that freshman class. I'm truly disappointed and frustrated that Wojo continues to struggle.
Getting blown out by NET rating #22 isn't really an achievement. BTW, What happens next year with no Markus Howard on the floor to defend? Do you see our trajectory higher than this season?
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Wojo has proven he can't get the job done. Unfortunately , he has tremendous job security and only way we can get rid of him is if he does well enough for another school to hire him away. Hopefully he can rally the troops for Nova.
Wojo does NOT have tremendous job security. I'll leave it at that.
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Wojo does NOT have tremendous job security. I'll leave it at that.
I'm sure he feels heat but I don't think any of it is from the administration.
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Uh .. I missed a few minutes post-game radio so I'm not sure .. did Wojo skip the post-game with Homer?
Of course he did
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I'm sure he feels heat but I don't think any of it is from the administration.
I'm sure too. Look I can tell some things I know but really I'm just some person on a fan web site who can say anything without anything to back it up. So just look at Wojo's contract extension. That will tell you everything you need to know.
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Lame Duck Buzz didn't give two craps his last year at MU. He had no real interest in developing that freshman class. I'm truly disappointed and frustrated that Wojo continues to struggle.
Getting blown out by NET rating #22 isn't really an achievement. BTW, What happens next year with no Markus Howard on the floor to defend? Do you see our trajectory higher than this season?
LOL. Yup, that was Buzz’s reason....excellent. So you are saying he committed fraud?
What happens next year without Markus, we have a different team with different players. Each year is different, that’s what happens. And we see how it goes...that’s the beauty of college basketball...each year is new.
How far is the trip from Houston to College Station...you going up there often for worship and such?
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The performance of last night doesn't bode well for this season. I think the Wojo Experiment has run it's course.