2013 MLB Thread

[ChicosBailBonds]

I wish the Halos could play Detroit all the time.  6-0 against Detroit (9 straight back to last season)....pretty crappy against everyone else.  But Puig didn't make it today, so that makes me happy.

[NavinRJohnson]

Honestly doesn't much matter if he threw at him intentionally or not. WhenFielder was with the Brewers, he and Braun (and the Brewers in general) led the league in HBP by a wide margin if I remember correctly. Sometimes intentional, sometimes not. If its a one time thing, fine, but when it happens as often as it does, and one comes under Fielders chin like that, perfectly appropriate to throw at someone in retaliation. If you're gonna come inside, you better be able to control it.

[NavinRJohnson]

Leyland/Tigers being punks again.  Barely glanced over fat boy's shoulder.

Fat boy? Really?

[buckchuckler]

Honestly doesn't much matter if he threw at him intentionally or not. WhenFielder was with the Brewers, he and Braun (and the Brewers in general) led the league in HBP by a wide margin if I remember correctly. Sometimes intentional, sometimes not. If its a one time thing, fine, but when it happens as often as it does, and one comes under Fielders chin like that, perfectly appropriate to throw at someone in retaliation. If you're gonna come inside, you better be able to control it.

Completely agree. 

[buckchuckler]

The Sox have started unloading players.  Thornton to Boston for an AA (just recently promoted) Of-er. 

[buckchuckler]

Did anyone see Aaron Hicks throw out Vernon Wells?  Holy Crap what a throw.

http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2013/07/13/aaron-hicks-makes-the-throw-of-the-year-to-catch-vernon-wells-trying-to-leg-out-a-triple-video/

[wadesworld]

Did anyone see Aaron Hicks throw out Vernon Wells?  Holy Crap what a throw.

http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2013/07/13/aaron-hicks-makes-the-throw-of-the-year-to-catch-vernon-wells-trying-to-leg-out-a-triple-video/

Yeah that was incredible. It's weird because the height the ball reaches seems like it would suggest the ball wouldn't be able to travel the distance that it did.

Also, Lincecum with 13 Ks in a no-no. Just about as dominant as you can get.

[MU B2002]

http://m.espn.go.com/mlb/story?storyId=9500252

[MU B2002]

Duplicate post to chicos.  My bad.

[LAZER]

"There were a lot of things that we learned about the collector, about the collection process, about the way that the entire thing worked," Braun said, "that made us very concerned and very suspicious about what could have actually happened."
-Ryan Braun 2/29/2012

I think he owes Dino Laurenzi an apology.

[buckchuckler]

"There were a lot of things that we learned about the collector, about the collection process, about the way that the entire thing worked," Braun said, "that made us very concerned and very suspicious about what could have actually happened."
-Ryan Braun 2/29/2012

I think he owes Dino Laurenzi an apology.

I completely agree.  Glad he is exposed and suspended. 

[🏀]

Wades and Naivin?

[4everwarriors]

Can we all now agree than O.J. is guilty too?

[GGGG]

I think he owes Dino Laurenzi an apology.

I don't agree with that.  He should have won his arbitration case.  Yeah, he got off on a technicality, but it was Laurenzi's fault that he got off.

[wadesworld]

I completely agree.  Glad he is exposed and suspended. 

Have said before any of this ever came out that I would've been more surprised if he hadn't juiced with ARod when he was at The U and ARod was working out there in the offseason. Am more surprised by professional athletes who don't juice, if there is such a thing. Maybe now the younger generation of players is clean. Doubt even that though.

[MerrittsMustache]

Clearly MLB had a lot more on Braun than he (and his lawyers) initially believed.

65 games is something, but it's not enough. He would have got 50 had he not gotten off on a technicality but then he lied about it, ripped MLB's drug policy, falsley proclaimed his innocence and attempted to ruin an innocent man's life. Give him 162 games, at least. Actually, I'm a firm believe that if a player violates MLB's drug policy, he should be required to re-pay his organization all of the money that they've paid him as a Major Leaguer. Think that would be a deterrent?

[MerrittsMustache]

I don't agree with that.  He should have won his arbitration case.  Yeah, he got off on a technicality, but it was Laurenzi's fault that he got off.

But he didn't need to call him out and blame him for the test coming up positive.

[chapman]

I suppose it's more like 90 games, given a month on the DL for a sore finger that was mostly spent trying to escape, then eventually mitigate this.  Seems it's the "white flag" Brewers fans were wishing he'd throw in a couple months ago since the season was lost already.

I'm a firm believe that if a player violates MLB's drug policy, he should be required to re-pay his organization all of the money that they've paid him as a Major Leaguer. Think that would be a deterrent?

What should be and isn't enforceable (confirmed already in this case and previously by the Yankees/A-Rod) is the inability for a team to void the contract of a player.  Unless everything he's ever done is completely due to PEDs, Braun's contract is likely still below market for his ability, but a small market organization relies on huge commitments like this for marketability as much as to put up big numbers.  Think a few fans might decide not to come to the park now, and even more will not bother to buy a certain player's jersey?

[LAZER]

I don't agree with that.  He should have won his arbitration case.  Yeah, he got off on a technicality, but it was Laurenzi's fault that he got off.

It wasn't entirely Laurenzi's fault since he followed the procedure that was laid out by his company.  And I understand that Braun's argument was completely valid in court, but Braun didn't present his innocence as a technicality, instead he essentially attacked the Laurenzi.

“We spoke to biochemists and scientists, and asked them how difficult it would be for someone to taint the sample. They said, if they were motivated, it would be extremely easy.”

I think there is serious implication in multiple quotes.

[NavinRJohnson]

Wades and Naivin?

What?

[NavinRJohnson]

65 games is something, but it's not enough. He would have got 50 had he not gotten off on a technicality but then he lied about it, ripped MLB's drug policy, falsley proclaimed his innocence and attempted to ruin an innocent man's life.

Well, at least you're looking at it objectively. Not only is Braun a PED user, but he's also as malicious as the day is long.

[NavinRJohnson]

Think a few fans might decide not to come to the park now, and even more will not bother to buy a certain player's jersey?

Maybe a few, but I honestly believe most people don't really care. They like to say they do, but when push comes to shove, they just want their baseball. Whether they admit It or not, everybody knows Braunis far from the only one, but ballparks were packed all over the country tonight (except Miami of course).

[ChicosBailBonds]

Can we all now agree than O.J. is guilty too?

[MerrittsMustache]

Well, at least you're looking at it objectively. Not only is Braun a PED user, but he's also as malicious as the day is long.

He accused Dino of tampering with his sample all while knowing that he didn't. You don't have a problem with that? That's a pretty low move if you ask me.

[MerrittsMustache]

Have said before any of this ever came out that I would've been more surprised if he hadn't juiced with ARod when he was at The U and ARod was working out there in the offseason. Am more surprised by professional athletes who don't juice, if there is such a thing. Maybe now the younger generation of players is clean. Doubt even that though.

Maybe a few, but I honestly believe most people don't really care. They like to say they do, but when push comes to shove, they just want their baseball. Whether they admit It or not, everybody knows Braunis far from the only one, but ballparks were packed all over the country tonight (except Miami of course).

Pretty much what's to be expected from the Braun apologists: "Everyone else is doing it too."