Author Topic: COVID-19 (f/k/a "the Coronavirus") (Read 1129776 times)

wadesworld · « **Reply #9700 on:** February 12, 2021, 11:05:02 AM »

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on February 12, 2021, 10:34:01 AM

and the people that had covid but died in car crashes and were counted as covid deaths?

Chitty counting on both the over and the under count.

Why are people with covid driving around? Shouldn't they be quarantined?

Galway Eagle · « **Reply #9701 on:** February 12, 2021, 11:10:25 AM »

Quote from: BLM on February 12, 2021, 11:05:02 AM

Why are people with covid driving around? Shouldn't they be quarantined?

Are you home shaming people who live out of their cars?

Frenns Liquor Depot · « **Reply #9702 on:** February 12, 2021, 11:18:58 AM »

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on February 12, 2021, 10:34:01 AM

and the people that had covid but died in car crashes and were counted as covid deaths?

Chitty counting on both the over and the under count.

Data would tell you there isnt both sides--nor does this have to be. Of course there are examples of poor classifications, but the data would tell you it skews one way in total.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole · « **Reply #9703 on:** February 12, 2021, 11:25:09 AM »

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on February 12, 2021, 10:34:01 AM

and the people that had covid but died in car crashes and were counted as covid deaths?

Chitty counting on both the over and the under count.

From a few weeks ago....

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/12/22/2020-deadliest-year-united-states-coronavirus/4006270001/

"Final mortality data for this year will not be available for months. But preliminary numbers suggest that the United States is on track to see more than 3.2 million deaths this year, or at least 400,000 more than in 2019."

...

"COVID-19 has killed more than 318,000 Americans and counting."

It looks WWWAAAYYYYYY more likely that we have undercounted COVID deaths.

GooooMarquette · « **Reply #9704 on:** February 12, 2021, 01:30:43 PM »

Quote from: forgetful on February 12, 2021, 10:52:43 AM

Still to this day, many states will not count a case, or a death as COVID without a positive PCR test while they were alive.

That means they can have a positive rapid-antigen test, diagnosed with COVID, and have double pneumonia cause their death, and that state will not count the death as COVID related.

Intentionally undercounting COVID deaths is a national game, to make leaders in charge look better. That effort started at the top.

Totally agree. All the numbers (and the epidemiologists who analyze them) point to a dramatic underreporting of COVID deaths.

wadesworld · « **Reply #9705 on:** February 12, 2021, 07:33:11 PM »

Cheeks has been missing the attention he so desires in his life. So the reign of Scoop terror is the result. Wonder if he’ll write us a letter about the real love of his life. Wonder if that’s the issue here. Valentine’s Day coming up.

rocket surgeon · « **Reply #9706 on:** February 12, 2021, 09:06:50 PM »

guess this wasn't as easy as sleepy thought/said it was going to be. dude was given a head start with all the research, "science", vaccines and "experts" inline plus the lapdog "media" and don't forget about the emmy award winning gov. covid who was the "gold standard" for handling this bad boy, the best we get is a half day of school a week? talk about "can't let a good crisis...

Hards Alumni · « **Reply #9707 on:** February 12, 2021, 09:12:34 PM »

I see the talking points have been handed out.

wadesworld · « **Reply #9708 on:** February 12, 2021, 09:13:19 PM »

People really exposing their lack of understanding here.

And one is a healthcare worker. Yikes.

GooooMarquette · « **Reply #9709 on:** February 12, 2021, 10:42:41 PM »

Changes were made from day one, but the previous administration let a huge locomotive plow out of control down a mountain. Even with all the braking power in the world, it will take time to slow it down and turn it around. Biden warned us that progress will be gradual, and everybody here fully understands why…

wadesworld · « **Reply #9710 on:** February 12, 2021, 11:04:04 PM »

Quote from: GooooMarquette on February 12, 2021, 10:42:41 PM

Changes were made from day one, but the previous administration let a huge locomotive plow out of control down a mountain. Even with all the braking power in the world, it will take time to slow it down and turn it around. Biden warned us that progress will be gradual, and everybody here fully understands why…

Right. People dumb enough to not understand that nobody promised no new cases or deaths or a complete reopening 3 weeks into the new administration are how we ended up with Donald Trump as our president. There is a lot of stupidity in this country. And there was a LOT of damage done that takes time to reverse.

wadesworld · « **Reply #9711 on:** February 12, 2021, 11:13:00 PM »

I'm actually starting to think that MAGAs really did believe that Covid was all a hoax to get rid of Trump and would magically disappear once Biden was in office. I thought it was just the extremists who thought this, but apparently they're unhappy that this thing didn't magically disappear as Trump promised.

At least Biden appears to have gotten their attention as to how serious this is. From "There's nothing the federal government can do. This is just the flu anyways. Open the country up!" to, "What's taking Sleepy Joe so long to fix all our problems?" it appears the MAGAs are very happy to give Joe the federal authority that Trump never had.

Great news!

forgetful · « **Reply #9712 on:** February 12, 2021, 11:53:11 PM »

Quote from: BLM on February 12, 2021, 11:13:00 PM

I'm actually starting to think that MAGAs really did believe that Covid was all a hoax to get rid of Trump and would magically disappear once Biden was in office. I thought it was just the extremists who thought this, but apparently they're unhappy that this thing didn't magically disappear as Trump promised.

Sadly, a lot of average Joe/Jane GOP believed that this was largely a scam to hurt Trump and did think it would magically disappear as a concern once Biden was in office.

I know a lot of people who thought that, who aren't even big MAGA'ers.

The nation is unbelievably divided right now. I fear what things will look like moving forward.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole · « **Reply #9713 on:** February 13, 2021, 06:51:27 AM »

I don't think its too much to admit that Cuomo, who once was praised by a lot of people, has been terrible in retrospect. He should resign or they should boot him out of office. The falsification of data for political purposes may even be criminal behavior.

4everwarriors · « **Reply #9714 on:** February 13, 2021, 08:16:50 AM »

Duz he hafta give back da Emmy two, hey?

GooooMarquette · « **Reply #9715 on:** February 13, 2021, 08:53:18 AM »

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on February 13, 2021, 06:51:27 AM

I don't think its too much to admit that Cuomo, who once was praised by a lot of people, has been terrible in retrospect. He should resign or they should boot him out of office. The falsification of data for political purposes may even be criminal behavior.

Absolutely correct. Cuomo seemed to be doing the right things at the time, but in hindsight he has been abysmal. I have admitted this before, and I will continue to say it. Cuomo belongs in the same boat as DeSantis, Kemp, Noem and a few others.