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nothing to do with racism, but a millennial would be offended and running for his/her safe space screaming for counselors and filing lawsuits
Again, I think most people here are confusing racism with stereotyping. Might the logo be offensive? Sure, people can make that argument. Does that automatically make it racist? No.Racism is defined as "a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human racial groups determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to dominate others or that a particular racial group is inferior to the others." What about the logo determines achievement, let alone "achievement involving one's own race [as] superior and has a right to dominate others" or that a group is inferior to another?Offensive? Sure. Have at it. Racist? Not unless we're rewriting the definition of racism.
I think non-offensive imagery would be step one. Consent would be step two.
1. Is this really the official mascot?2. What does this have to do with racism?
Ok, even if its "offensive but not racist," that is reason enough to get rid of it.
well done! actually we are using the logo to assert superiority, in this case athletic prowess, over another. the logo isn't used as a symbol of repression in sports. i don't think any less of a "fighting irish" or an indian when i see these logos. i see something i want on my side to beat the shnit out of your banana slugs or orange or red or whatever other sissy logo mascot you havethat's how we were brought up. rather than find offense in everything, we find strength
To answer your second question, this entire thread, what does it have to do with racism? Native Americans at more than a 70% response said this isn't an issue. You all need to relax.https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/new-poll-finds-9-in-10-native-americans-arent-offended-by-redskins-name/2016/05/18/3ea11cfa-161a-11e6-924d-838753295f9a_story.html
Is this offensive?
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny. Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.
Welcome back Chicos
So how many people does something have to offend before we can get rid of it? Because I'm pretty sure we can band together enough people to say the entire University of Notre Dame - not just their logo/imagery - is offensive. We could probably take down UW as well and make it a 2-for-1 ridding.
It's weird. You'd think the dude would try to conceal his identity by not immediately throwing up a dozen posts about race and TV ratings (and in the process sling mud at anyone else's viewpoint contrary to his). But we are what we are. I feel bad for the guy, actually.
What you or I think honestly does not matter.
I for one am absolutely offended by Canada. Let's get rid of them.
Interesting. I hadn't realized any/all offended native Americans were millennials.You denounce others for over generalizations and here you are doing the same
i didn't say ALL millennials. i said A millennial as in, for exampl. yes, there are some people who are offended by this stuff. what a surprise. i'd love to ask these same people what their level of offense is toward the term martian as well. i wish some team would name themselves the fighting swiss rocket men...now you're talkin btw, my dads dad(my gramps) was from switzerland
God that is such bullsh*t. It was always offensive to certain parts of society. We just didn't care enough to listen.Chief Wahoo is from a former age where our society didn't pay much attention to the racism based stereotyping of Native Americans. Willie Wampum, Chief Noc a Homa, etc. are examples of imagery that was retired because of that. Chief Wahoo somehow remains.It's real simple. Just be respectful. Cleveland has a perfect acceptable logo. Use it. Retire this one.
and there you have it...cuz i said so, 'ey?" It was always offensive to certain parts of society"so when and where does it end? when sully says so, that's when. i submit that you are being a bully and i am offended and i feel disrespected because you disagree and called my post "bull plop
Why did you use "millenial" at all in your original post? Clearly, you chose that word for a reason.I get so fed up with other generations denouncing millenials. It's so unnatural carnal knowledgeing ridiculous.
As I have said before, there are all sorts of logos out there that don't offend. The Indians even have one that is supposedly their primary logo. Why use one that is clearly racist and offends another culture? (Hint: they are doing it to make money.)
and that's...ok. i can respect your opinion and disgust. we just disagree, no big deal why do people have to get so worked up when there is a disagreement? we need more people to just accept that there are going to be disagreements and refrain from personalizing them. *(oh boy, i have a feeling some here are putting this post into a folder to beat me with later-fair enough. sometimes we all need to be reminded of this)
It's real simple. Just be respectful.