[Cracked Sidewalks] Daily Update

[ChicosBailBonds]

could you post some more pundits pOVs on the buzz hiring.  I need more of their opinions before I make a decision whether or not this was a good decision.  These pundits are so much closer to the program than all of us, so I need more. (this is sarcasm)

When a positive article comes out, I'll post that as soon as it arrives.

[nola03]

Bitching about the coach now only leads me to believe that you are a sports fan who just enjoys bitching... in which case there is no point debating because you will inevitably find something else to bitch about.

Sports radio has created an industry around this type of fan.

What about me?

I'm not a complainer at all. When I watch my teams, I can do so outside of the emotion. Certainly as it relates to MU, I've never been a "bitch just to bitch" fan. In fact, I've been told repeatedly that I don't bitch because my apologist blinders are on too tight. My record over the last 6-7 seasons in these fan forums backs that up 100%.

There are a lot of people who are diehard MU fans that will question this decision for some time -- at least until the end of 09-10.



And, Baksetball, if you still read this thread, can you help to settle my fears on why the coach has yet to explicitly state his offensive system and defensive principles 6 weeks after being hired?

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

What about me?

I'm not a complainer at all. When I watch my teams, I can do so outside of the emotion. Certainly as it relates to MU, I've never been a "bitch just to bitch" fan. In fact, I've been told repeatedly that I don't bitch because my apologist blinders are on too tight. My record over the last 6-7 seasons in these fan forums backs that up 100%.

There are a lot of people who are diehard MU fans that will question this decision for some time -- at least until the end of 09-10.



And, Baksetball, if you still read this thread, can you help to settle my fears on why the coach has yet to explicitly state his offensive system and defensive principles 6 weeks after being hired?

I understand and share your concern... honest.

I'm just a little sick of people repeating their doubts over and over again when there isn't anything to judge buzz on (yet).

I'm nervously optimistic... so I'm going to actually wait until I see some of Buzz's coaching and recruiting before I get too excited or too down.

Let the guy get in and start working before we start doubting.

Like him or not, he's what we got.

[MUBasketball]

And, Baksetball, if you still read this thread, can you help to settle my fears on why the coach has yet to explicitly state his offensive system and defensive principles 6 weeks after being hired?

Well I'm with you on this one. It doesn't concern me that he hasn't talked about it, but I'd love to hear him talk about these things.

Why haven't we heard anything? Probably because there is ZERO talk of MU basketball this time of year. We are talking about a college hoops team in Milwaukee, WI. The talk right now is split between Brewers baseball and Packers football.

I'm slightly disappointed in Rosiak not having much for blogs on the JS. I can understand not having weekly articles in the paper. But it's a blog for crying out loud. It doesn't take up precious newspaper space. Why not give us updates every few days? Talk to coach about his style and report back.

Dennis Krause had the chance to on Monday, and never asked the question.

I don't blame Buzz for not talking about it, I blame the media for not asking him about it.

My recommendation? Everybody should try and go to the Texas BBQ in about a month. I'm sure Buzz will be easily accessible during this. I hope to go, and if so I hope to chat with him about it. Is anybody going for sure? I'd also love to meet some posters and discuss this hire.

[Pakuni]

And, Baksetball, if you still read this thread, can you help to settle my fears on why the coach has yet to explicitly state his offensive system and defensive principles 6 weeks after being hired?

Has Tom Crean explicity stated his offensive system and defensive principles to the Indiana press?
Has Johnny Dawkins done it in the Bay Area?
Travis Ford at OSU?
Keno Davis at Providence?
Is it a common tact for new coaches to go public with their playbooks and philosophies?

[ChicosBailBonds]

Has Tom Crean explicity stated his offensive system and defensive principles to the Indiana press?
Has Johnny Dawkins done it in the Bay Area?
Travis Ford at OSU?
Keno Davis at Providence?
Is it a common tact for new coaches to go public with their playbooks and philosophies?

Yes....they all said they run a winning offensive set   

[HarveysWallbangers]

Has Tom Crean explicity stated his offensive system and defensive principles to the Indiana press?
Has Johnny Dawkins done it in the Bay Area?
Travis Ford at OSU?
Keno Davis at Providence?
Is it a common tact for new coaches to go public with their playbooks and philosophies?

I think it's safe to assume Travis Ford will run the same thing he's been running. Dawkins will run the same thing Duke runs. Davis will run the same thing he did at Drake and the same thing his father ran for years.

These guys are all known quantities. It was a fair question to ask Williams. Unfortunately, he had no answer. I'm sure that kind of response "blew them away" during the interview process.

[Pakuni]

Yes....they all said they run a winning offensive set   

I'll take that to mean "I can't find that they did, but admitting it would mean one less reason to criticize Buzz's hiring."

[ChicosBailBonds]

I'll take that to mean "I can't find that they did, but admitting it would mean one less reason to criticize Buzz's hiring."

You can take that as I didn't bother to look and I find Buzz's answer to be a bit amateurish in one sense, but probably genuine in another.  I'm not sure he really knows, which isn't a bad answer but one he probably didn't want to reveal.  He'll get better at dealing with the media through time, that answer came from someone not used to dealing with the media in my opinion.

[The Lens]

Has Harvey been banned?  Why does his info now say guest?

As an 1982 Brewer fan, I would be deeply offended if Harvey was banned.

[nola03]

I don't blame Buzz for not talking about it, I blame the media for not asking him about it.

My recommendation? Everybody should try and go to the Texas BBQ in about a month. I'm sure Buzz will be easily accessible during this. I hope to go, and if so I hope to chat with him about it. Is anybody going for sure? I'd also love to meet some posters and discuss this hire.

As expected, I look at it differently.

I understand the media getting some of the blame. Certainly this question should have been asked more directly by Rosiak in the last six weeks. And I assume Krause has a 30-minute show and the fact it didn't come up is shocking.

That said, he was asked directly (by a female reporter if I remember) during his introductory press conference and give us the infamous "I have a winning style" answer. He also seemed to sit down with Bob McClellan for a fairly in-depth article that I'm sure he knew would be linked up with a recruiting website and answered the subject by saying he needed more time to familiarize himself with the players.

Seems like that's at least two opportunities to get something down in print or video. He's an affable guy so it's not like the author would need to pry any substance out of him like they do with Crean.

As for the BBQ, I hope everyone enjoys it. It's another test to see how he does with the "regular people" and I'm sure it will be a lot of fun. However, if he doesn't discuss his coaching philosophy with the media I'm not sure any Joe Blow MU fan will get a real answer. Never hurts to try though.  

[MUinCO]

Well I'm with you on this one. It doesn't concern me that he hasn't talked about it, but I'd love to hear him talk about these things.

Why haven't we heard anything? Probably because there is ZERO talk of MU basketball this time of year. We are talking about a college hoops team in Milwaukee, WI. The talk right now is split between Brewers baseball and Packers football.

I'm slightly disappointed in Rosiak not having much for blogs on the JS. I can understand not having weekly articles in the paper. But it's a blog for crying out loud. It doesn't take up precious newspaper space. Why not give us updates every few days? Talk to coach about his style and report back.

Dennis Krause had the chance to on Monday, and never asked the question.

I don't blame Buzz for not talking about it, I blame the media for not asking him about it.

My recommendation? Everybody should try and go to the Texas BBQ in about a month. I'm sure Buzz will be easily accessible during this. I hope to go, and if so I hope to chat with him about it. Is anybody going for sure? I'd also love to meet some posters and discuss this hire.

We haven't heard much (or anything actually) about his coaching philosophy because he's NEVER been a head coach at this level before.  Crean at Indiana doesn't have to...they pretty much know exactly what they are getting.

As for MU...Buzz is a total stab in the dark.  No one on this board or anywhere for that matter can say he's a great coach or a bad one becuase no one really has a clue with this guy.  None...and the "people who know basketball" don't really know either.  Proof is in the results of which he has virtually none as a head coach.

I hope and pray Buzz is the second comming of Al so he has my support for now, but lets get real here...unlike Indiana, no one here knows what our team is going to look like in a couple of years.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Thought this was interesting from April 6, 2003 when Pitt was looking for a coach.  DeCourcy was asked about Tom Crean


DeCourcy dismissed Marquette's Tom Crean as a legitimate candidate, saying, "Frankly, it's not even a lateral move. His next move is to a country club, a big-time program where you don't have to scramble to recruit."

[rocky_warrior]

Has Harvey been banned?  Why does his info now say guest?

As an 1982 Brewer fan, I would be deeply offended if Harvey was banned.

No, apparently he chose to delete his own account.  (perhaps we should stop allowing people to delete their own accounts) 

Wouldn't be the first time though, around May 1 this long-time poster deleted his original account and started exclusively using the HarveysWallbangers account.

Not sure why though.  Maybe it's a self-created witness protection program...

[Henry Sugar]

No, apparently he chose to delete his own account.  (perhaps we should stop allowing people to delete their own accounts) 

Wouldn't be the first time though, around May 1 this long-time poster deleted his original account and started exclusively using the HarveysWallbangers account.

Not sure why though.  Maybe it's a self-created witness protection program...

So that's what happened to PRN....  ha!

[ZiggysFryBoy]

So that's what happened to PRN....  ha!

So PRN was posting as Harvey for like 3 weeks without any tirades about the nickname?  No wonder he's in the witness protection program.   

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

So PRN was posting as Harvey for like 3 weeks without any tirades about the nickname?  No wonder he's in the witness protection program.   

No joke... what happened to PRN?

[murambler]

Who is NOT supporting the coach?  I don't know anyone that doesn't want Buzz Williams to succeed unless they are UW-Madison, UW-Milwaukee or other Big East fans.  I don't know any MU fan that doesn't want this coach to succeed.

There is a notable difference between wanting an individual to succeed and actually supporting said individual.  I would venture to estimate that close to all of the members on this board want Buzz to succeed; however, I would hardly say that all the members are supportive of him.

[nyg]

I also asked what happened to PRN about a month ago.  Got no response.

[rocky_warrior]

I also asked what happened to PRN about a month ago.  Got no response.

Just to be clear, the MUScoop moderators have had nothing (directly at least) to do with the disappearance of PuertoRicanNightmare.

He deleted his account around May 1 as far as I can tell.  Since then, I believe he's been using the HarveysWallbangers alias, which is now (self) deleted too.

So, he may still be here in a new alias, but regardless I'm sure he's pleased with the attention, and that you guys care enough to ask 

[Pakuni]

I just figured he was over on the Indiana boards using the alias IheartCrean.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Just to be clear, the MUScoop moderators have had nothing (directly at least) to do with the disappearance of PuertoRicanNightmare.

He deleted his account around May 1 as far as I can tell.  Since then, I believe he's been using the HarveysWallbangers alias, which is now (self) deleted too.

So, he may still be here in a new alias, but regardless I'm sure he's pleased with the attention, and that you guys care enough to ask 

Is he also the "contact lens"?

[nyg]

To be honest, I found his threads to be interesting.  Really enjoyed the week after TC bolted and he provided some humorous threads.  Time to move on.

[ATWizJr]

It is not an insult or cause for criticism if Buzz has not shared his strategic thinking publicly. 

Perhaps it is evolving. 

Maybe Buzz was just as appalled at our defensive shortcomings and has plans to make major changes in how we defend and would like his players to hear about if from him first. 

Maybe he and his new staff are mulling changes in the way we attack (particularly against zones) and would like to see how our personnel adapt before dissussing it publicly.

In any event, let's give him the beneift of the doubt, after all, it has been like 6 weeks since the hire, he has a new staff and they may actually want to brainstorm some ideas before settling on specifics and proclaiming them to the public.

Hey, maybe they are so busy out recruiting that they haven't even gone down the strategy path yet, so theri is nothing to report.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

Just to be clear, the MUScoop moderators have had nothing (directly at least) to do with the disappearance of PuertoRicanNightmare.

He deleted his account around May 1 as far as I can tell.  Since then, I believe he's been using the HarveysWallbangers alias, which is now (self) deleted too.

So, he may still be here in a new alias, but regardless I'm sure he's pleased with the attention, and that you guys care enough to ask 

Yea, I was fearful to ask about him, because then he'd come back with something about being the most "in demand" poster.



I always respected his passion (couldn't question that)... but we disagreed on just about everything.

Now that Crean is gone, is posting not fun for him anymore?

Every hero needs a villain... without Crean, what is he supposed to do?