Nick Williams to IU

[NYWarrior]

http://blogs.heraldtimesonline.com/iusp/?p=1932

[mosarsour]

Adios! Have fun not playing next season, Nick!

[MUCam]

Business is business and ethics/morals/conscience seems to have long since absented itself from most business transactions. For that reason, I can't really fault Crean too much, even if it does show his true character.

That said, I don't understand why we didn't give this guy a conditional release from his LOI. F*ck Crean. He shouldn't get to reap the rewards of kids backing out of LOI's due to his actions.

[Ready2Fly]

I'd like to say I'm shocked, but I'm not at all.  I used to be a big Crean supporter, but now I can't believe I ever defended the guy.  I hope NW has fun running the three-man weave for the next four years.

[🏀]

Disgusting.

[Ready2Fly]

Business is business and ethics/morals/conscience seems to have long since absented itself from most business transactions. For that reason, I can't really fault Crean too much, even if it does show his true character.

That said, I don't understand why we didn't give this guy a conditional release from his LOI. F*ck Crean. He shouldn't get to reap the rewards of kids backing out of LOI's due to his actions.

Exactly.  It's painfully obvious he sold NW on himself rather than Marquette.  I hope he crashes and burns at IU (Crean, that is).

[Chicago_inferiority_complexes]

Another kick in the pants from this long, seemingly unending ordeal.

Are we soon going to find out that Crean left a flaming paper bag of dog poop in his office the day he left?

[TVDirector]

su-prise, su-prise, su-prise.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Not sure why this is shocking or whatever.  He wanted to play for Crean...it is what it is.  If MU had hired someone that brought a recruit with them, I doubt we would be upset. 

Crean also signed another kid today.  And why would Nick not play next year...I don't get that.  He'll play, and he'll be plenty good.

[downtown85]

Crean also signed another kid today. 

He's a 6'2" guard.  I wonder how long it will be before the Indiana fans start complaining that Tanning Cream can't recruit quality bigs. 

[ChicosBailBonds]

He's a 6'2" guard.  I wonder how long it will be before the Indiana fans start complaining that Tanning Cream can't recruit quality bigs. 

Not long, look at who's on their list for next year and their are 7 kids 6'8" or larger that have IU in their final schools.

I know people want him to crash and burn, that's to be expected....but I think people better set themselves up for reality right now.  He's going to do well there and he's going to recruit well there.  The state of Indiana is pretty excited about Crean right now, more so about a coach in quite a long time.

[MarquetteFan94]

F U Crean.

[lurch91]

What no more Judas?  Crean, Tom Crean.

[79Warrior]

Not long, look at who's on their list for next year and their are 7 kids 6'8" or larger that have IU in their final schools.

I know people want him to crash and burn, that's to be expected....but I think people better set themselves up for reality right now.  He's going to do well there and he's going to recruit well there.  The state of Indiana is pretty excited about Crean right now, more so about a coach in quite a long time.

Good points. Crean is going to be very successful at IU. Williams will be a good player for them. Folks need to move on.

[Dish]

Crean will obviously recruit better at Indiana, that should be a given.

Can he coach them up, run a system that will win with these kids? Can he keep the Zeller/Oden types from leaving the state?

IU fans are in love with him right now, for sure. Like a relationship, any time you start dating a girl you really like, you're going to love mostly everything about her at first.

Crean's true test will be two years from now. If the top talent from the state is still going elsewhere, and IU is finishing in the 4th-6th range in the conference and making one and done trips to the NCAAs, we'll see how long he lasts there. Purdue being a top 5/10 team this year is bad news for Crean. Ohio St, Mich St and the national powers (Carolina, Duke, Kansas, Kentucky, etc) are always going to recruit Indiana well.

Crean will recruit well compared to what he could do at Marquette. Problem is he better recruit EXCEPTIONALY well or coach exceptionally well (very much up in the air) to be successful at Indiana. After all, success at Indiana is much different from most schools. It is after all Indiana, Indiana.

[RawdogDX]

Not sure why this is shocking or whatever.  He wanted to play for Crean...it is what it is.  If MU had hired someone that brought a recruit with them, I doubt we would be upset. 

Crean also signed another kid today.  And why would Nick not play next year...I don't get that.  He'll play, and he'll be plenty good.

+1, obvious double standard.  Do you really think buzz wasn't in contact with any of the people he brought his first year?  

[Marquette65]

When KO left for Tenn. he said he would not take any Mu players or recruits that comitted to MU.  Shame we didn't get the same from TC

[Ready2Fly]

+1, obvious double standard.  Do you really think buzz wasn't in contact with any of the people he brought his first year?  

You mean a JUCO and a two-star uncommitted high school junior?

Hardly a double standard.

[IU fan]

Here's a good Q & A about the decision:

http://iuplanet.com/forum/iuplanet-hoosier-news/15390-q-alabama-guard-nick-williams-who-signed-iu-today.html

[mr.MUskie]

What is it about Coach Crean that made you want to play for him so badly?

NW: Him being a winner. Everybody loves winners. As I think about all the players that he's developed, you can see the kind of talent he has. You can tell that he really loves his kids

Until he sneaks out on them.

[MarquetteFan94]

Here's a good Q & A about the decision:

http://iuplanet.com/forum/iuplanet-hoosier-news/15390-q-alabama-guard-nick-williams-who-signed-iu-today.html

Wow....stimulating.

[Dish]

Unless Nick Williams plans on being a 6th year senior at IU, I'll bet the 401k he isn't winning a national championship at IU.

On the other hand, had he said NIT championship....

[3Mer]

+1, obvious double standard.  Do you really think buzz wasn't in contact with any of the people he brought his first year?  

I don't know about any "double standard" -- probably because I don't remember a new MU coach ever bringing any significant recruits with him -- but I know why Crean's conduct is burning me.

MU paid Crean an OBSCENE annual salary, in part, to recruit players for MU.  He already collected his salary for 2007-2008, which included payment for recruiting the same players he is now soliciting for Indiana, many of whom had signed letters of intent.

The NCAA recognizes players don't sign to play for coaches -- they sign to play for schools who pay big money to recruit them.  Had I been the MU Athletic Director, I would have forced those recruits to transfer and sacrifice a year of eligibility.

And just because Crean's conduct may not technically violate any NCAA rules, I still find it unethical.

[MR.HAYWARD]

HE IS A EVIL EVIL MONKEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ChicosBailBonds]

+1, obvious double standard.  Do you really think buzz wasn't in contact with any of the people he brought his first year?  

Jilted lovers syndrome is alive and well.