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Avenue Commons

Anyone think that had the whole thing with Crean happened a couple of weeks earlier, that Darin Horn would have been our new head coach?
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ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: Avenue Commons on April 15, 2008, 03:58:39 PM
Anyone think that had the whole thing with Crean happened a couple of weeks earlier, that Darin Horn would have been our new head coach?

Yes...and many people would be very happy campers as a result.

Coobeys Oil Depot

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 15, 2008, 04:02:59 PM
Quote from: Avenue Commons on April 15, 2008, 03:58:39 PM
Anyone think that had the whole thing with Crean happened a couple of weeks earlier, that Darin Horn would have been our new head coach?

Yes...and many people would be very happy campers as a result.

I would have been very happy had that happened.

LastWarrior

Not sure if it had to be weeks earlier... if it was just 24 hours earlier, he would have probably been our next coach based on Rosiak's blog.  Pointless speculation at this point... Buzz is our coach.
"The Lord is a Warrior" - Exodus 15:3

jos7287

Frick any other coach, buzz is my boy and I have faith in him.  Like I said in another post, even if he is behind the learning curve, he has an extremely talented and experienced team to help carry him his first year.  I am thinking he should be able to make some real progress stepping into next season. 

ZiggysFryBoy

If MU hired horn, people would be bitching that we got a guy from a sun belt school (should have gotten a bigger name from a bigger school) and would be bitching b/c he was a crean assistant and why let Tom influence the administration's decision to hire one of his guys to the coaching position.

(and I know that he had some success in the tournament this year, which amounts to being a low-mid major with a upperclassman led team.)

ErickJD08

People would bitch either way.  Lets fess up.

Crean COULD NOT recruit big guys.  Even after Wade, no one with talent over 6'7 wanted to come here.  Buzz comes in and three months later, we get a 6'10+ kid coming in.  Crean left and dude is still committed.  Taylor and Williams bailing is pretty typical.  Marquette fans are not the only ones in the "BUZZ WILLIAMS?" club.  These guys are top prospects and are afraid things are going stuck in a crappy program and wave (what those cocky guys think) millions of dollars away.  I PRAY Buzz can coach because based Otule, Folce, and Erik Williams the boy can separate himself from the pack.
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ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: PRN's Dead Horse on April 15, 2008, 11:21:57 PM
If MU hired horn, people would be bitching that we got a guy from a sun belt school (should have gotten a bigger name from a bigger school) and would be bitching b/c he was a crean assistant and why let Tom influence the administration's decision to hire one of his guys to the coaching position.

(and I know that he had some success in the tournament this year, which amounts to being a low-mid major with a upperclassman led team.)

People would bitch about hiring a guy that was on MU's Final Four staff and just led Western Kentucky to the Sweet 16 and gave UCLA fits?  Hmmm, I doubt it

PuertoRicanNightmare

Darrin Horn had more relevant experience when he was hired at Western Kentucky than our head coach does now.

Canned Goods n Ammo

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 16, 2008, 08:03:19 AM
Quote from: PRN's Dead Horse on April 15, 2008, 11:21:57 PM
If MU hired horn, people would be bitching that we got a guy from a sun belt school (should have gotten a bigger name from a bigger school) and would be bitching b/c he was a crean assistant and why let Tom influence the administration's decision to hire one of his guys to the coaching position.

(and I know that he had some success in the tournament this year, which amounts to being a low-mid major with a upperclassman led team.)

People would bitch about hiring a guy that was on MU's Final Four staff and just led Western Kentucky to the Sweet 16 and gave UCLA fits?  Hmmm, I doubt it

I disagree completely.

If there has one thing we have seen over the years, it's that you can't please everybody and there will always be a group of fans that bitch.

Some people bitched about Crean the entire time, and that guy lifted MU to heights not seen in a long time.

If Horn was hired we'd hear the following:

"Crean still controls MU"
"If we were going with a Crean assistant, why not go with Buzz... at least he knows the current players and can recruit"
"Horn doesn't have enough experience in a big conference, let's get Tony Bennett."
Etc. etc.


Unless Zombie McGuire walked through the door... fans would bitch.

Avenue Commons

I guess in the end it doesn't matter. Buzz Williams is our coach. He has my full support until I have reason to feel otherwise. Good luck to him. Go MU!
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Niv Berkowitz

In the end, it doesn't matter. Buzz is the guy. But...college coaching gigs are ridiculous that way. One game/moment separates the fate of soo many programs.

If MU loses to KY in round one, is Crean at IU?
If WKU loses in round one, is Horn offered the gig?

ChicosBailBonds

If Horn was the first choice over Bennett or Miller, yes you are right there would be bitching. 

If he was the 3rd choice, I doubt people would be upset.

Canned Goods n Ammo

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 16, 2008, 09:40:52 AM
If Horn was the first choice over Bennett or Miller, yes you are right there would be bitching. 

If he was the 3rd choice, I doubt people would be upset.


I hope/wish you were right... but I just don't see it.

I guess we are on opposite sides... now I'm the pessimistic one and you are the optimist.


RawdogDX

Quote from: 2002mualum on April 16, 2008, 08:24:35 AM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 16, 2008, 08:03:19 AM
Quote from: PRN's Dead Horse on April 15, 2008, 11:21:57 PM
If MU hired horn, people would be bitching that we got a guy from a sun belt school (should have gotten a bigger name from a bigger school) and would be bitching b/c he was a crean assistant and why let Tom influence the administration's decision to hire one of his guys to the coaching position.

(and I know that he had some success in the tournament this year, which amounts to being a low-mid major with a upperclassman led team.)

People would bitch about hiring a guy that was on MU's Final Four staff and just led Western Kentucky to the Sweet 16 and gave UCLA fits?  Hmmm, I doubt it

I disagree completely.

If there has one thing we have seen over the years, it's that you can't please everybody and there will always be a group of fans that bitch.

Some people bitched about Crean the entire time, and that guy lifted MU to heights not seen in a long time.

If Horn was hired we'd hear the following:

"Crean still controls MU"
"If we were going with a Crean assistant, why not go with Buzz... at least he knows the current players and can recruit"
"Horn doesn't have enough experience in a big conference, let's get Tony Bennett."
Etc. etc.


Unless Zombie McGuire walked through the door... fans would bitch.

Are you kidding me?  No f'ing way can we have zombie al taking over this team.  Think about his style of play do you think he can adjust to coaching a team where you are shorter at every position on the floor in one year?  Has he been getting satalite wired into his coffin for the last years so he could keep up on teams and tactics?  It would be a disaster for at least the first two years and by that time he'll have bitten some kid and we'll be surrounding the Al carring torches chanting for his head.

Horn would have been fantastic, he's going to end up doing great things.

augoman

funny post, 'Dog', but zombie Al would adjust (probably the best game coach ever- seldom paid any attention to practices, had little to do w/ game strategies) by half time of the first game and 'let slip the dogs of war' on whomever the poor saps were we were playing.  Only prob I see is the game clock- he never had one.

Put me down for a huge Horn fan- he was my vociferously-demanded replacement for Crean before this all went down.

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