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ChicosBailBonds

Per Rosiak


"It appears as though freshman forward Trevor Mbakwe is leaning toward transferring following the end of the semester due to family concerns in his hometown of St. Paul, Minn. Apparently this was a situation that has been in place, and coach Tom Crean's departure will have little if anything to do with it."

mviale

Crean knew this as he had offered 1 too many scholarships.

You heard it here first. Davante Gardner will be a Beast this year.
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=27259

chapman

So maybe the correct reasoning for letting him play this year was "He didn't want to stay in school for six years?  Still, I don't really buy Crean leaving had nothing to do with it.  And I'm hoping Dwight Burke is looking forward to playing 30 minutes per game next year and that the gym is staying open late for Pat Hazel.

ChicosBailBonds


Doctor V

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 03, 2008, 12:40:45 AM


And Then Depression Set In

i was just about to say falling apart. but i like yours better

Pakuni

Looking at this on the bright side, the new coach is going to have lots of scholies and playing time to offer his first real recruiting class in 2009. There is an upside to that ... plenty of kids will find immediate PT in the Big East awfully attractive.
Past situations like this have led to some pretty good results, even before the Big East.
For Kevin O'Neill it meant MacIlvaine, Key, Logterman and Brakes.
For Crean it meant Wade, Blankson, Merritt and Sanders.

Trying to stay positive.

Pakuni

Quote from: chapman on April 03, 2008, 12:32:50 AM
So maybe the correct reasoning for letting him play this year was "He didn't want to stay in school for six years? 

Or, perhaps more likely, Trevor didn't want to sit out two full seasons.

mviale

good points - pending the decisions on 4.27, we may just need to suck it up next year and hold our noses.
You heard it here first. Davante Gardner will be a Beast this year.
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=27259

marquette09

If this is true...what happens next year when Burke gets in foul trouble? scary thought

Pakuni

Quote from: marquette09 on April 03, 2008, 01:19:05 AM
If this is true...what happens next year when Burke gets in foul trouble? scary thought

1. We hope Otule sticks with MU and can play at least in a reserve role next year.

2. There are several unsigned big men still out there who have expressed an interest in Marquette, including Frank Ben-Eze (de-committed from Harvard), Maurice Sutton and Edgar Garibay. Not exactly top end talent, but big bodies. Whether they remain interested in MU with Crean gone is TBD. But a scholarship and PT will be available.

nyg

Not alot out there now for 2008 recruits, majority committed.  JUCO route is an option.  This really makes 2009 recruiting class a program maker/breaker.

Tugg Speedman

I'm not that worried that TM is transferring.  I wasn't that impressed with him.  Yes, I know he missed a lot of the season.  But, his PT declined into the tourney.  Not a good sign.

He was going to be a body to take fouls and give other guys a rest.  Burke 2.0

Of all the transfers Crean lost, only one really matter - Odartey Blankson in 2003.  And he only matter for one game - I keep thinking  his presense would have made a difference against Kansas in 2003.

D. Mason, could have been a second that mattered but failed to impress at LSU.  I'll call that a wash.

CTWarrior

Quote from: Pakuni on April 03, 2008, 12:53:44 AM
Quote from: chapman on April 03, 2008, 12:32:50 AM
So maybe the correct reasoning for letting him play this year was "He didn't want to stay in school for six years? 

Or, perhaps more likely, Trevor didn't want to sit out two full seasons.

I'm pretty sure you only get five years to finish your four of eligibility, so he was only going to get to play three where ever he transferred to anyway, so we may as well have let him play.  I could not understand the logic of playing him at all, but now it makes sense.
Calvin:  I'm a genius.  But I'm a misunderstood genius. 
Hobbes:  What's misunderstood about you?
Calvin:  Nobody thinks I'm a genius.

PuertoRicanNightmare

If Mbakwe exhausts his college playing eligibility, I'd be shocked.

BrewCity83

Why?  Poor academics?  Going hardship?
The shaka sign, sometimes known as "hang loose", is a gesture of friendly intent often associated with Hawaii and surf culture.

Pakuni

Quote from: CTWarrior on April 03, 2008, 08:28:08 AM
I'm pretty sure you only get five years to finish your four of eligibility, so he was only going to get to play three where ever he transferred to anyway, so we may as well have let him play.  I could not understand the logic of playing him at all, but now it makes sense.

Five years is the standard, but the NCAA has an appeals process by which a sixth year can be granted.
If, for example, Trevor's apparent transfer is the result of a legitimate family emergency/issue, that's something that would weigh in his favor.

dwaderoy2004

Tom kleinschmidt had 6 years of eligibility at DePaul, I think he got 2 injury redshirts.  Mike Cook over at Pitt is trying to get an injury redshirt so he can play next year...

PuertoRicanNightmare

Kleinschmidt? Are you talking about Northwestern's Evan Eschemeyer? I thinK Kleinschmidt only played 4 years.

BrewCity: It's just a hunch.

BrewCity83

The shaka sign, sometimes known as "hang loose", is a gesture of friendly intent often associated with Hawaii and surf culture.

dwaderoy2004

Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on April 03, 2008, 09:47:52 AM
Kleinschmidt? Are you talking about Northwestern's Evan Eschemeyer? I thinK Kleinschmidt only played 4 years.

BrewCity: It's just a hunch.

dang it, yeah you're right.  Confused the tall white guys with weird last names...

reinko

If your name is Scott Padgett you are allowed to play in college as long as you like.  I swear Pitino will find another hidden year of eligibility for him

Niv Berkowitz

THis just f-ing sucks. THis could turn out to be such a debacle.

From a short term standpoint, they almost have to keep BUzz Williams. I think everyone will be returning (minus Mbakwe) and the team will be solid regardless of who coaches next season. But man....this is just brutal.

tonyreeder

Quote from: reinko on April 03, 2008, 10:04:42 AM
If your name is Scott Padgett you are allowed to play in college as long as you like.  I swear Pitino will find another hidden year of eligibility for him

anybody remember Jess Settles at Iowa?  Played 8 years.

mosarsour

Quote from: Niv Berkowitz on April 03, 2008, 10:46:57 AM
THis just f-ing sucks. THis could turn out to be such a debacle.

From a short term standpoint, they almost have to keep BUzz Williams. I think everyone will be returning (minus Mbakwe) and the team will be solid regardless of who coaches next season. But man....this is just brutal.


In a perfect world Buzz returns as an assistant next season. But here's the most likely scenario. It's either Buzz as our HC or as an assistant at IU. I believe this was stated in another thread as well.

PuertoRicanNightmare

Baloney. Comments from our recruits and transfers should have no bearing on who we hire. And we have to let whoever we hire decide who his assistants are going to be.

How can you honestly say that because Trevor is transferring -- a guy who showed absolutely NOTHING to MU fans -- or because Ty Taylor, who was the 6th best prospect on his own high school team, is wavering that we should keep an assistant who has been here for less than a year.

You guys are in full out panic mode. We'll be fine!!

By the way, Buzz Williams is a bigger scumbag than Crean for what he did to New Orleans. Get rid of him and Rabineaux!!

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