This is beyond troubling

[MuggsyB]

We can't sugarcoat this garbage, regardless if it's early in the season.  I'm giving Shaka an F today. That's right, an F.  We can talk about certain players, and how badly they've played, but I saw a very poorly coached group that have no fking idea how to play winning basketball.  Our offensive sets sucked, our rotations sucked, and our coaching sucked.  Mizzou had like 25 turnovers.  We had an 11 point lead and absolutely crapped the bed with idiotic decisions and 4th grade recess turnovers.  Inexcusable.  Shaka better figure it out or it's time to move on.  And I don't want to hear "adversity is good for us".  There's way more nuance to that and I'm stunned by how poorly we have played and how disorganized we look vs two high major opponents.  I'm truly furious right now.  Fortunately my dog is calming me down a bit.  What we have seen is disturbing/disgusting. 

[dpucane]

Missouri was missing their best player

[MuggsyB]

Missouri was missing their best player

Exactly.  They're big and athletic but not a good team and poorly disciplined.  I saw SLU handle them quite comfortably.

[Warrior of Law]

Marquette is 22-31 since January 2025. They are a losing program by definition. Losing programs lose games, and losing develops momentum. See De Paul, Georgetown, etc. Allow for some anger, and then apathy takes over. We're still in anger mode, but apathy isn't far.

[Stretchdeltsig]

We play with no confidence. The players don't intimidate or dominate. The team doesn't seem "coached uo." Its coached down. Why do the players shoot better in high school than at Marquette. Fru and Clark play soft. They play like they're over grown eighth graders. This team's play is so bad that it makes you wonder what the coaches do.

[1SE]

Marquette is 22-31 since January 2025. They are a losing program by definition. Losing programs lose games, and losing develops momentum. See De Paul, Georgetown, etc. Allow for some anger, and then apathy takes over. We're still in anger mode, but apathy isn't far.

I think it's already there for a lot of casual fans - they'd jump on the bandwagon if we started winning again, but they didnt tune in to todays game.

[williewarrior]

We play with no confidence. The players don't intimidate or dominate. The team doesn't seem "coached uo." Its coached down. Why do the players shoot better in high school than at Marquette. Fru and Clark play soft. They play like they're over grown eighth graders. This team's play is so bad that it makes you wonder what the coaches do.

Fru, Clark and Parham all play soft.

[CountryRoads]

Fru, Clark and Parham all play soft.

And dumb.

[GoldenEagles03]

Fru, Clark and Parham all play soft.

I thought Fru was really physical today. He just fouled out.

Royce has regressed more than anyone I can remember from the end of one season to the start of the next. Neck and neck with Nigel.

[warriors141]

I thought Fru was really physical today. He just fouled out.

Royce has regressed more than anyone I can remember from the end of one season to the start of the next. Neck and neck with Nigel.

This is particularly damning for Shaka. The development of players has not happened past few seasons, and now top guys getting worse. We have a bunch of guys we are redshirting, who clearly aren't getting better, don't even see the floor. Phillips supposed to be so improved, haven't seen anything in a game yet

[MuggsyB]

I thought Fru was really physical today. He just fouled out.

Royce has regressed more than anyone I can remember from the end of one season to the start of the next. Neck and neck with Nigel.

Do you get our offensive sets?  Whether it be vs man or zone?  And if our guys can't seemingly shoot, why wouldn't Porter be on the floor more?  Especially vs Zone?  It not all on Shaka, our top players have been awful, but what adjustments has he made on the offensive end?

Ty.

[rccola42]

I thought Fru was really physical today. He just fouled out.

Royce has regressed more than anyone I can remember from the end of one season to the start of the next. Neck and neck with Nigel.

Don't think it's possible to play physical and only grab 2 rebounds in 20 minutes as a 6'11 player.

[NCMUFan]

Marquette is 22-31 since January 2025. They are a losing program by definition. Losing programs lose games, and losing develops momentum. See De Paul, Georgetown, etc. Allow for some anger, and then apathy takes over. We're still in anger mode, but apathy isn't far.

This is not supposed to happen with Shaka as the coach.

[drbob]

Shaka is an awful end of game coach. 

[brewcity77]

This is why I was hesitant on everyone thinking this was a for sure tourney team. The only guys on this team who were leaders on winning D1 teams were up transfers Minessale and Porter.

When we needed someone to make plays, no one could take that alpha role.

[DoctorV]

It's a sad day for me.

For the first time ever, I felt like it's time for Marquette to move on from Shaka.

Not because they lost the game. Not because of all the negative things already mentioned, which are true and accurate.

Simply because his team is playing like his personality- tight and scared.

That Missouri team was toast with under 8 left, but when they made their run you just knew Marquette would lose the game. That's not the MU we can be proud of.
The last minute was exceptionally bad. Not only did Shaka really hesitate to even take a timeout, when he did his team came out scared, unprepared, and with extreme lack of confidence.
Sad, but his guys are getting worse under his watch and are playing tight like their head coach.

Unfortunately, I don't think it'll be better after he's gone, so I really hope this ages like crap.
It's the first time I've ever felt this way about Coach. 

[mileskishnish72]

It looks like another scenario like a year ago - we're likely to be out of the dance before the BE season even starts. I am trying mightily to be calm, but I have to say that I really do not have any confidence that Shaka Smart is the guy to turn this around - rather, he's the guy who played the major role in getting us into such a situation.

[CountryRoads]

It's a sad day for me.

For the first time ever, I felt like it's time for Marquette to move on from Shaka.

Not because they lost the game. Not because of all the negative things already mentioned, which are true and accurate.

Simply because his team is playing like his personality- tight and scared.

That Missouri team was toast with under 8 left, but when they made their run you just knew Marquette would lose the game. That's not the MU we can be proud of.
The last minute was exceptionally bad. Not only did Shaka really hesitate to even take a timeout, when he did his team came out scared, unprepared, and with extreme lack of confidence.
Sad, but his guys are getting worse under his watch and are playing tight like their head coach.

Unfortunately, I don't think it'll be better after he's gone, so I really hope this ages like crap.
It's the first time I've ever felt this way about Coach. 

I knew when they didn't grab that rebound off a missed free throw that led to a three that was it. Everything was really predictable also. As you said, tight and scared.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

That Missouri team was toast with under 8 left, but when they made their run you just knew Marquette would lose the game.

The worst part is, Marquette absolutely handed them their run. They went extremely passive on offense for about 4 minutes and then failed to give even an average effort rebounded that missed free throw. That's all on Shaka.

[PointWarrior]

You are being too kind.

Shaka is an awful end of game coach. 

[Johnny B]

As awful as these last games have been talking about moving on from
Shaka right now is ridiculously premature. In march we can talk. and careful what u wish for. The odds MU lands a clear upgrade are unlikely imo. we've seen several strong programs fade into obscurity and irrelevance. MU is not immune to that so u don't just impulsively fire Shaka. I think he's a good coach still but if he misses the tournament this year that sentiment will change quick.
let's see

[StillWarriors]

Fru, Clark and Parham all play soft.

Feels like Parham has been stuffed at the rim 15 times or more in 4 games.

[wisblue]

Marquette is 22-31 since January 2025. They are a losing program by definition. Losing programs lose games, and losing develops momentum. See De Paul, Georgetown, etc. Allow for some anger, and then apathy takes over. We're still in anger mode, but apathy isn't far.

If this season unfolds like last season, this will probably be the last of my 24 years as a season ticketholder. It's hard to get up for driving downtown to see wins over crappy opponents and losses to almost every team with a pulse.

I've had a lot of fun over the years but this isn't fun, and I'm getting too old to go through the hassle of attending 15 plus games in person if the games aren't going to be competitive and entertaining.

[wisblue]

As awful as these last games have been talking about moving on from
Shaka right now is ridiculously premature. In march we can talk. and careful what u wish for. The odds MU lands a clear upgrade are unlikely imo. we've seen several strong programs fade into obscurity and irrelevance. MU is not immune to that so u don't just impulsively fire Shaka. I think he's a good coach still but if he misses the tournament this year that sentiment will change quick.
let's see

It isn't premature to talk about it. It would be premature to act on it right now.

Marquette is on the verge of fading into obscurity now. In today's world of transfers and pay for play the right coach can turn a program around quickly. It's fair to question whether Shaka is well equipped for this era.