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[Small Orange Soda]

You're missing the point.  It's not about the money not being available.  It's about throwing your entire compensation structure out of whack by hypothetically paying a back-up big who might play 8 - 14 MPG as much or more than Royce or Adrien are making.

I think people are clinging to the Sheek situation and trying to apply it everywhere. Like you said, SLU panicked, threw a huge bag at him along with a starting spot and a chance to go home.

Marquette isn't a poverty program and it's not a charity either. Royce would've been a hot commodity in the portal. He's getting paid. Bigs may be a commodity, but all possible backups aren't screwing up the pay structure.

I'm not sure why it's so hard to just acknowledge Shaka thinks Caedin is a lot better than those of us on this board do, and that played into his decision. His minutes diminished down the stretch the year before too.

[Pakuni]

You cannot know this for a fact.  You can and are presuming it.

You're right. I cannot know for an absolute fact. I think given the facts we know, the circumstantial evidence overwhelmingly says I'm right. You're free to be the "well actually" guy here.

I mean, when I wake up in the morning and the ground outside is soaking wet, I can't say for an absolute fact that it rained overnight. Maybe one of those forest-firefighting planes dumped a load over my block. But I'd feel pretty safe going with rain as the explanation.

[Pakuni]

Since it is an argument you enjoy using, which coach has said they're relying on 10ish minutes a game from Caedin?

Ignoring that I presented that as a hypothetical (notice the first word of my sentence?) ...
They relied on Caedin for 10ish minutes a game down the stretch last year. Given that the only difference among the post options between last season and this upcoming season is swapping Gold for Fru, it stands to reason that relying on Caedin for 10ish minutes a game remains a possibility.

But yes, you are correct, no coach has outlined exactly how many minutes Caedin will play next year. You got me there.

[Pakuni]

It's crazy if people think Fru is making the same money Ethan is.  Or Caedin is making more than Nigel.

These are things no one here has ever written.

[wadesworld]

Maybe because back end players like Josh Clark are rolling around in $135,000 BMW X5 M competition SUVs with a license plate that says "0.3 GPA".

Maybe that has something to do with it?

I don't know what cars players are rolling around in, or what their license plates read.  But I think I remember hearing all the players got BMWs.  I'm guessing that's not coming out of their pocket from their NIL/rev share money that MU is offering them.

[MU82]

These are things no one here has ever written.

Pretty sure wades was being hyperbolic and referring to the fact that, in the past, some Scoopers claimed that Shaka's pay scale was based on seniority - hence Hamilton (a redshirt junior to be) making more than James (a sophomore to be).

In other words, there has been a ton of misinformation here about who gets paid what.

[wadesworld]

You're right. I cannot know for an absolute fact. I think given the facts we know, the circumstantial evidence overwhelmingly says I'm right. You're free to be the "well actually" guy here.

I mean, when I wake up in the morning and the ground outside is soaking wet, I can't say for an absolute fact that it rained overnight. Maybe one of those forest-firefighting planes dumped a load over my block. But I'd feel pretty safe going with rain as the explanation.

It's highs of 80s consistently right now where I live.  It hasn't rained the last few nights, but the ground is still wet when I wake up.  Plenty of dew in the morning which make the ground very wet without rain.

[wadesworld]

These are things no one here has ever written.

Literally typed out?  Maybe not.  But are you really going to argue there weren't posters on MUScoop who were claiming that Shaka/Marquette had a pay structure that paid players based on the number of years they were in the program?  And that Shaka would not negotiate with that, wouldn't work with agents, etc. and the only difference in pay players on the team had would be deals players found on their own outside of what Marquette set up for them?  That there weren't constantly posters who were claiming that because of this structure, there was no chance Sean Jones or Tre Norman would leave as their pay at Marquette wasn't going to get cut, they were going to be in their 4th/5th year in the program, and there was no way in hell they'd get as much money to play in another program as they would get paid by Marquette because there's no chance Marquette was cutting their funds?

When your argument is "Marquette pays players based on years in the program and does not stray from that pay structure, which is why nobody in their right mind would leave if you're Sean/Tre," you don't need someone to type out the words, "Caedin Hamilton is a 4th year player so he will get more money than Nigel James because he's a second year player."  Either Marquette pays players based on years in the program and Hamilton/Clark are getting more than James/Fru, or they don't pay players based on years in the program.

[Pakuni]

Literally typed out?  Maybe not.  But are you really going to argue there weren't posters on MUScoop who were claiming that Shaka/Marquette had a pay structure that paid players based on the number of years they were in the program? 

No, not maybe not. Definitely not.
You wrote that people - plural - think Fru and Ethan Johnston are making the same, and that Caedin is making more than Nigel. Nobody here has written that.
The rest is a bunch of goalpost shifting.
And quite a swing after moments earlier getting super pedantic over dewy grass (to which, I suppose, I could have pedantically pointed out that sidewalks, streets and driveways also count as the ground outdoors).

[wadesworld]

No, not maybe not. Definitely not.
You wrote that people - plural - think Fru and Ethan Johnston are making the same, and that Caedin is making more than Nigel. Nobody here has written that.
The rest is a bunch of goalpost shifting.
And quite a swing after moments earlier getting super pedantic over dewy grass (to which, I suppose, I could have pedantically pointed out that sidewalks, streets and driveways also count as the ground outdoors).

Is it goalpost shifting?  Or is it using logic?  I'll make it simple and you can either avoid the questions, or give honest answers?

Were there not Scoopers who claimed Shaka/Marquette paid players based on years in the program?
Were there not Scoopers who claimed Sean and Tre would not be leaving the program based on this, because they would get paid a lot at Marquette as 5th/4th year players, and nobody else would pay them close to what 5th/4th year players at MU would get?
How many years have Fru and Johnston been at Marquette?
How many years have Caedin and Nigel been at Marquette?

And when the answers inevitably come down to "Yeah, Marquette doesn't pay based on years in the program like posters claimed," then the next question, again, is why do people think we're paying Josh and Caedin so much that we can't land transfers (despite landing one of the top players at the most premium positions)?

[Hards Alumni]

Ignoring that I presented that as a hypothetical (notice the first word of my sentence?) ...
They relied on Caedin for 10ish minutes a game down the stretch last year. Given that the only difference among the post options between last season and this upcoming season is swapping Gold for Fru, it stands to reason that relying on Caedin for 10ish minutes a game remains a possibility.

But yes, you are correct, no coach has outlined exactly how many minutes Caedin will play next year. You got me there.

Correct.  And the roster is objectively different this year, and has been discussed players were dealing with injuries. 

Would it be great to have more options at the 5?  Yes, of course.  I'm not sure anyone is excited about the lack of depth.  Furthermore, I still would love to add a big.

Some names (no one wants to talk names, they just want to piss and moan).

Robert Miller III (So) - I'd love it as a replacement for Sheek, but he has been real quiet.
Jerald Colonel (Sr) - great idea, but will want to play a lot, which cuts into Fru's minutes
Emeka Opurum (So) - possible medical issue
Once you get this far down the available guys you are looking at PROJECTS

The trouble is most of the guys still around in the portal are seniors and are going to be looking for a pay day and/or starting minutes.  We don't have those things available so we are going to roll it out with what we have.