Fru to Mu

[brewcity77]

Clark and Hamilton will benefit going up against Fru in practice. They will improve significantly.

Funny way to spell Sheek Pearson but okay.

[burger]

Clark and Hamilton will benefit going up against Fru in practice. They will improve significantly.

At least Shaka will be able to determine if "twinkle toes" has the intestinal fortitude to compete at the BEAST level.....I am of the opinion that he can't.....But either way....By the end of next year....We have a viable option or it frees up another scholarship....Shaka has been more than patient....Similar to Tre....

[Uncle Rico]

I can think of a few mid-major players who did OK when they transferred up.

I do think that's a legit concern with Minessale.  Not saying he can't do it, but coming from the A-10 or AAC is far different than the Summit.

As a St. Thomas expert myself (ever since they beat Marquette), the league they're in stunk last year outside them and North Dakota.  That's not his fault but he didn't really get tested against elite talent.  The defenses were downright bad in the Summit.  It's too bad he didn't get to show himself in the big dance, even for one game.

Saying all that, he won't be the lead dog at Marquette and just needs to find his role should he join but I'd expect a statistical regression.

[Pakuni]

I do think that's a legit concern with Minessale.  Not saying he can't do it, but coming from the A-10 or AAC is far different than the Summit.

As a St. Thomas expert myself (ever since they beat Marquette), the league they're in stunk last year outside them and North Dakota.  That's not his fault but he didn't really get tested against elite talent.  The defenses were downright bad in the Summit.  It's too bad he didn't get to show himself in the big dance, even for one game.

Saying all that, he won't be the lead dog at Marquette and just needs to find his role should he join but I'd expect a statistical regression.

Don't disagree that it would be a big leap and how he would navigate it is anyone's guess.
That said, the Summit has produced some very good P5 players in recent years: Baylor Scheierman, Grant Nelson, Max Abrams, Zeke Mayo, Marquel Sutton, Oscar Cluff, etc.

[Viper]

I do think that's a legit concern with Minessale.  Not saying he can't do it, but coming from the A-10 or AAC is far different than the Summit.

As a St. Thomas expert myself (ever since they beat Marquette), the league they're in stunk last year outside them and North Dakota.  That's not his fault but he didn't really get tested against elite talent.  The defenses were downright bad in the Summit.  It's too bad he didn't get to show himself in the big dance, even for one game.

Saying all that, he won't be the lead dog at Marquette and just needs to find his role should he join but I'd expect a statistical regression.

better than just-a-guy but not quite an 'exciting white', hey?

[Uncle Rico]

better than just-a-guy but not quite an 'exciting white', hey?

If he comes to Marquette, I fully expect scoop to only comp him to white guys and to be a fan favorite "scrappy, gym rat who just gets it"

[Hards Alumni]

If he comes to Marquette, I fully expect scoop to only comp him to white guys and to be a fan favorite "scrappy, gym rat who just gets it"

Many have already said he is Tyler Kolek, despite the fact that they do not play remotely the same way.   

[Pakuni]

If he comes to Marquette, I fully expect scoop to only comp him to white guys and to be a fan favorite "scrappy, gym rat who just gets it"

Coach's kid. First in the gym, last to leave. Sneaky athletic.

[The Sultan]

Many have already said he is Tyler Kolek, despite the fact that they do not play remotely the same way.   

They very much play the same way, in that they play for the name on the front of the jersey instead of the one on the back.

[Zog from Margo]

 St. Thomas did finish 115th in kenpom. That sounds like a mid major.

[Galway Eagle]

Many have already said he is Tyler Kolek, despite the fact that they do not play remotely the same way.   

Basically a better Matt heldt

[SchnitzelBoy]

The discourse around Minessale is shaped by him being local (and white) but he had a great season up at St. Thomas so the hype is not unfounded. That said, I think it's wrong to assume a Summit League player starts for Marquette on day 1. He's athletic, sure. But is he more athletic than Damarius Owens who jumps out of the goddam gym? His finishing is excellent but would he have been even remotely as effective going against Zuby Ejiofor, Dillon Mitchell, Oswin, or Tarris Reed?

If I had to pick between Minessale and Riley, I'd go with the latter because of the need for PG depth. Not saying no to adding him, but I think there's a logjam at the 3 right now and like the long-term potential of our current guys enough.

[The Sultan]

But is he more athletic than Damarius Owens who jumps out of the goddam gym? His finishing is excellent but would he have been even remotely as effective going against Zuby Ejiofor, Dillon Mitchell, Oswin, or Tarris Reed?

Well, with all of Owens' athleticism, has he been effectiving going against those guys? Sure he is athletic, but he is the perfect example of how being athletic doesn't necessarily make you a good basketball player.

[lawdog77]

If he comes to Marquette, I fully expect scoop to only comp him to white guys and to be a fan favorite "scrappy, gym rat who just gets it"

I do think that's a legit concern with Minessale.  Not saying he can't do it, but coming from the A-10 or AAC is far different than the Summit.

As a St. Thomas expert myself (ever since they beat Marquette), the league they're in stunk last year outside them and North Dakota.  That's not his fault but he didn't really get tested against elite talent.  The defenses were downright bad in the Summit.  It's too bad he didn't get to show himself in the big dance, even for one game.

Saying all that, he won't be the lead dog at Marquette and just needs to find his role should he join but I'd expect a statistical regression.

Small sample size but he put up good stats against Saint Mary's and Washington St

[Uncle Rico]

Small sample size but he put up good stats against Saint Mary's and Washington St

He did.  I think he'll be fine in lower usage role.

[wadesworld]

Many have already said he is Tyler Kolek, despite the fact that they do not play remotely the same way.   

Some of the advanced stats people can probably prove me wrong, but prior to their time at Marquette they actually had pretty similar roles.  Both were off ball guards who could play on the ball when needed.  Kolek was the better perimeter shooter, but Minessale actually had a higher eFG% both years at St. Thomas than Kolek had at George Mason.  Minessale actually averaged almost double the assists that Kolek did in his year at George Mason (not sure on assist rate).  Minessale turned it over more (again, unsure on turnover rate).  Both get into passing lanes defensively.  Minessale gets to the line A TON more than Kolek ever did (which we could use).

Kolek did it at a much higher level than what Minessale has been at, but Minessale's numbers were better than Kolek's and their roles at George Mason and St. Thomas were actually pretty similar.

[Tha Hound]

The discourse around Minessale is shaped by him being local (and white) but he had a great season up at St. Thomas so the hype is not unfounded. That said, I think it's wrong to assume a Summit League player starts for Marquette on day 1. He's athletic, sure. But is he more athletic than Damarius Owens who jumps out of the goddam gym? His finishing is excellent but would he have been even remotely as effective going against Zuby Ejiofor, Dillon Mitchell, Oswin, or Tarris Reed?

If I had to pick between Minessale and Riley, I'd go with the latter because of the need for PG depth. Not saying no to adding him, but I think there's a logjam at the 3 right now and like the long-term potential of our current guys enough.

I've seen something along these lines posted here multiple times. Minessale can and has played PG. He can also play the 2. I dont think he's a 3 at the big east level.

[The Lens]

Nolan over performed in AAU with Chapman (put CBA on the map)
Nolan over performed in HS with MUHS (state champs)
Nolan over performed Year 1 at UST (starter)
Nolan over performed Year 2 at UST (high major attention)

Every level was supposed to finally put this kid in his place and it hasn't.  He may just be special. His athleticism takes a back seat to nobody. I've seen him win game by deferring and do all the "little things". I've seen him completely take over. DO has been in the program for 2 years and has a lot of talent but Nolan starting at the 3 come November would not surprise me.  And will be a sign that we're deep and ready to contend.

[BM1090]

Nolan over performed in AAU with Chapman (put CBA on the map)
Nolan over performed in HS with MUHS (state champs)
Nolan over performed Year 1 at UST (starter)
Nolan over performed Year 2 at UST (high major attention)

Every level was supposed to finally put this kid in his place and it hasn't.  He may just be special. His athleticism takes a back seat to nobody. I've seen him win game by deferring and do all the "little things". I've seen him completely take over. DO has been in the program for 2 years and has a lot of talent but Nolan starting at the 3 come November would not surprise me.  And will be a sign that we're deep and ready to contend.

With the caveat that I've only watched him in highlights, I'm not that impressed with his athleticism. It's perfectly fine for BE level. I don't think he'll be overmatched. But outside of his vertical I didn't see a ton of qualities I'd call athletic, especially laterally.

I do really like his game.

[Tha Hound]

Analytics are just analytics but Minessale projects to be our 3rd best player behind Nigel and our other portal pickup. I'm pretty sure he's coming here to start and play a ton of minutes.

[MU82]

I prefer Minessale to Riley because of his height and defense, and I think he'll be a good addition to the team. I do wish he shot the 3 better, but looking at his game logs he had some stretches during which he shot it OK - for instance, a 14-game stretch near the end of the season where he hit 35%.

[mileskishnish72]

Minessale has a good neck.

[Nukem2]

I prefer Minessale to Riley because of his height and defense, and I think he'll be a good addition to the team. I do wish he shot the 3 better, but looking at his game logs he had some stretches during which he shot it OK - for instance, a 14-game stretch near the end of the season where he hit 35%.

Somebody posted on one of these sites that Nolan shot much better on catch and shoots and that his misses were more off the dribble.

[Billy Hoyle]

Many have already said he is Tyler Kolek, despite the fact that they do not play remotely the same way.   

Maybe more of a Brian Wardle. Hell, Minnsale, too, may end up as MU head coach someday.

[SchnitzelBoy]

I like that Minessale is 6'5" and can play in the backcourt. I keep seeing conflicting reports about him as a backup PG candidate. If he could play 1-3, he'd be a huge get and we might not need Riley. Now if MU splashes $$$ and we get both? We're cooking.