Trump saves the ncaa!

[Badgerhater]

"If rules aren't changed to screw college athletes in 48 hours, I'll bomb all campuses back to the Stone Ages."

As long as it starts with Bucky.

[MUCam]

Setting aside the politics, the real question here is: Does this mean Mbakwe is back?

[WellsstreetWanderer]

Didn't read the article so no opinion on it other than I think getting players like Tonje and Boyd (6th year, 3rd school) out of the college game doesn't sound like a bad idea to me.

Calipari certainly agrees.

[Jay Bee]

Great reminder that the rules only apply to some. Shameful!

[tower912]

Great reminder that the rules only apply to some. Shameful!

Like, thou shalt not kill?

[Jay Bee]

Like, thou shalt not kill?

No.

[wadesworld]

Great reminder that the rules only apply to some. Shameful!

Shocked you don't cry about all the good in the world Trump's J6 pardons are doing in this world.

[Jay Bee]

Shocked you don't cry about all the good in the world Trump's J6 pardons are doing in this world.

No politics allowed on this board, so I am handcuffed and in chains.

[mr.MUskie]

Does this mean Ben can play next year?

Did he play this year?

[The_Blaze]

This will lead to more transfers in this portal since players will know they may only have one more chance to move if this is not challenged. 

I agree that transfers should be limited especially the first 2 years given schools invest heavily in recruiting and development but the government should not be involved in this. They are elected officials that should be focused on much more important matters like the national debt, the economy, and saving social security.  If it requires the courts and takes time so be it.

[The Sultan]

This will lead to more transfers in this portal since players will know they may only have one more chance to move if this is not challenged.

If what's not challenged? No rules have changed. Sure the NCAA *could* change their rules, but the schools know that they aren't going to lose federal funding over this. There has to be a compelling reason for that to happen, and this...uh...really doesn't rise to that level. To say the least.

[The_Blaze]

If what's not challenged? No rules have changed. Sure the NCAA *could* change their rules, but the schools know that they aren't going to lose federal funding over this. There has to be a compelling reason for that to happen, and this...uh...really doesn't rise to that level. To say the least.

In normal times yes schools would not worry about losing federal funding but this executive branch has froze or terminated billions in federal university funding.

[Jockey]

If what's not challenged? No rules have changed. Sure the NCAA *could* change their rules, but the schools know that they aren't going to lose federal funding over this. There has to be a compelling reason for that to happen, and this...uh...really doesn't rise to that level. To say the least.

The idiot has withheld billions in medical research money to universities, but you don't think he would withhold money over sports? Wow.

[The Sultan]

In normal times yes schools would not worry about losing federal funding but this executive branch has froze or terminated billions in federal university funding.

The idiot has withheld billions in medical research money to universities, but you don't think he would withhold money over sports? Wow.

Yeah, I don't think you both understand how this works. Executive orders determine how the executive branch is going to carry out existing law. Withholding federal dollars that have been granted to colleges and universities can be done within existing federal law. (Some of them are getting challenged however because the law requires some conditions for the withholding that the government hasn't met.)

The executive branch cannot withhold dollars outside of law. There is no law that allows withholding federal funds from colleges and universities because they play players who have been deemed ineligible by the NCAA. By specifically bringing up women's sports, they are trying to get there through Title IX, but that's a specious argument - and one that is very likely to be overturned by the courts.

So yes, it is actually quite legally consistent that Trump can issue exeutive orders withholding medical research, but cannot withhold federal dollars due to sports.

The NCAA may use this as a reason to apply new rules consistent with what he is asking for, but that doesn't mean they can survive a court challenge. There is no underlying law that allows the NCAA to do this, which is why they have been lobbying Congress for the last few years.

[Jockey]

So you're saying trump can't do it because it's illegal. Cuz staying within the law is one of his big concerns. 

[The Sultan]

So you're saying trump can't do it because it's illegal. Cuz staying within the law is one of his big concerns. 

He can certainly try. It would likely be overturned by courts pretty quickly.

My guess is that this largely is ignored and no one pays attention to it after August 1.

[Jay Bee]

The idiot has withheld billions in medical research money to universities, but you don't think he would withhold money over sports? Wow.

^^^ ban dis gf individual

#NoPolitics

[Uncle Rico]

The idiot has withheld billions in medical research money to universities, but you don't think he would withhold money over sports? Wow.

I agree with this analysis

[Badgerhater]

Yeah, I don't think you both understand how this works. Executive orders determine how the executive branch is going to carry out existing law. Withholding federal dollars that have been granted to colleges and universities can be done within existing federal law. (Some of them are getting challenged however because the law requires some conditions for the withholding that the government hasn't met.)

The executive branch cannot withhold dollars outside of law. There is no law that allows withholding federal funds from colleges and universities because they play players who have been deemed ineligible by the NCAA. By specifically bringing up women's sports, they are trying to get there through Title IX, but that's a specious argument - and one that is very likely to be overturned by the courts.

So yes, it is actually quite legally consistent that Trump can issue exeutive orders withholding medical research, but cannot withhold federal dollars due to sports.

The NCAA may use this as a reason to apply new rules consistent with what he is asking for, but that doesn't mean they can survive a court challenge. There is no underlying law that allows the NCAA to do this, which is why they have been lobbying Congress for the last few years.

This was a factual, thorough and dispassionate arguement free of emotional and childish outburst.   So why is it on Scoop?

[Jockey]

He can certainly try. It would likely be overturned by courts pretty quickly.

My guess is that this largely is ignored and no one pays attention to it after August 1.

In other words, exactly as I said. Yes, he can do it. The fact that it likely would be overturned by the courts is irrelevant to whether he can or can't do it.

[The_Blaze]

It should be overturned but the purpose of this is to see how far they can go.  The law be damned.

Will create uncertainty in the short term and possibly a larger portal pool starting tomorrow.

If this was thought through properly then make the order valid after this portal. But of course it was done during peak College basketball media - the final 4.  That was not a coincidence. 

[MU82]

"Tuesday will be Transfer Portal Day, and NIL Day, all wrapped up in one, in College Basketball. There will be nothing like it!!! Open the F@ckin' Wallets, you crazy bastards, or you'll be living in Hell – JUST WATCH! Praise be to Dolla."