Trump saves the ncaa!

[#UnleashThePortal]

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/48387866/executive-order-limits-ncaa-athletes-five-years-one-transfer


Im sure this will totally change the landscape, and we will have a very healthy discussion.

[tower912]

I am sure it will survive the lawsuits.

[Johnny B]

5 years of eligibility?

[#UnleashThePortal]

5 years of eligibility?

probably meant 5 years to complete 4.

[#UnleashThePortal]

Will Marquette adhere and go back to rgv?

[tower912]

Check and see where the insider money comes down as far as predicting the injunction.

[Scoop Snoop]

Laugh all you want, but I am so very happy that Trump has settled yet another war, this time between the NCAA and the athletes. The part about attorneys saying they are confident that judges would find it "unconstitutional and unenforceable if challenged in court" was hilarious. Since when has that stupid document-the constitution-stopped our fearless leader? Next, cap their paychecks at a max of $12,000 per year. That's plenty of spending money for a college student.

[Billy Hoyle]

probably meant 5 years to complete 4.

it would be five years to play five years. That's been proposed for a while and Division II was going to vote on it in January before tabling it.

You know one is proud of an Executive Order and know will stand up against embarrassing legal challenges when you announce that policy after 5 PM on Good Friday

[CountryRoads]

Didn't read the article so no opinion on it other than I think getting players like Tonje and Boyd (6th year, 3rd school) out of the college game doesn't sound like a bad idea to me.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Just when I thought America couldn't get any greater....

[avid1010]

Laugh all you want, but I am so very happy that Trump has settled yet another war.

Yup...laughing...

[#UnleashThePortal]

Yup...laughing...

Are you mocking our fifa world peace winner?

[K1 Lover]

Didn't read the article so no opinion on it other than I think getting players like Tonje and Boyd (6th year, 3rd school) out of the college game doesn't sound like a bad idea to me.

AJ Storr would like a word.

[Jables1604]

5 years of eligibility?

Term limits mean nothing to Diaper Don.
#Trump 2028

[rocky_warrior]

I would like to lock this for needless politics, but, sigh,  #$%!!$%!!!

[Scoop Snoop]

I would like to lock this for needless politics, but, sigh,  #$%!!$%!!!

I get that, but in this thread, these are needful politics.

[rocky_warrior]

I get that, but in this thread, these are needful politics.

Hardly ever needed, but here we are.

[MU82]

Signing DOA executive orders even as he continues putting U.S. soldiers in harm's way and driving up the cost of gas.

A true multi-tasker.

[Mutaman]

Does this mean Ben can play next year?

[rocky_warrior]

Does this mean Ben can play next year?

How much oil does he control?

[mileskishnish72]

What will Boasberg say?

[#UnleashThePortal]

Does this mean Ben can play next year?

Nevermind, we need to vote Trump out.

[#UnleashThePortal]

I would like to lock this for needless politics, but, sigh,  #$%!!$%!!!

hey now! It's even Marquette basketball related!

[Billy Hoyle]

Does this mean Ben can play next year?

In the future only US born players will be allowed to play college sports.

[MU82]

"If rules aren't changed to screw college athletes in 48 hours, I'll bomb all campuses back to the Stone Ages."

[Badgerhater]

"If rules aren't changed to screw college athletes in 48 hours, I'll bomb all campuses back to the Stone Ages."

As long as it starts with Bucky.

[MUCam]

Setting aside the politics, the real question here is: Does this mean Mbakwe is back?

[WellsstreetWanderer]

Didn't read the article so no opinion on it other than I think getting players like Tonje and Boyd (6th year, 3rd school) out of the college game doesn't sound like a bad idea to me.

Calipari certainly agrees.

[Jay Bee]

Great reminder that the rules only apply to some. Shameful!

[tower912]

Great reminder that the rules only apply to some. Shameful!

Like, thou shalt not kill?

[Jay Bee]

Like, thou shalt not kill?

No.

[wadesworld]

Great reminder that the rules only apply to some. Shameful!

Shocked you don't cry about all the good in the world Trump's J6 pardons are doing in this world.

[Jay Bee]

Shocked you don't cry about all the good in the world Trump's J6 pardons are doing in this world.

No politics allowed on this board, so I am handcuffed and in chains.

[mr.MUskie]

Does this mean Ben can play next year?

Did he play this year?

[The_Blaze]

This will lead to more transfers in this portal since players will know they may only have one more chance to move if this is not challenged. 

I agree that transfers should be limited especially the first 2 years given schools invest heavily in recruiting and development but the government should not be involved in this. They are elected officials that should be focused on much more important matters like the national debt, the economy, and saving social security.  If it requires the courts and takes time so be it.

[The Sultan]

This will lead to more transfers in this portal since players will know they may only have one more chance to move if this is not challenged.

If what's not challenged? No rules have changed. Sure the NCAA *could* change their rules, but the schools know that they aren't going to lose federal funding over this. There has to be a compelling reason for that to happen, and this...uh...really doesn't rise to that level. To say the least.

[The_Blaze]

If what's not challenged? No rules have changed. Sure the NCAA *could* change their rules, but the schools know that they aren't going to lose federal funding over this. There has to be a compelling reason for that to happen, and this...uh...really doesn't rise to that level. To say the least.

In normal times yes schools would not worry about losing federal funding but this executive branch has froze or terminated billions in federal university funding.

[Jockey]

If what's not challenged? No rules have changed. Sure the NCAA *could* change their rules, but the schools know that they aren't going to lose federal funding over this. There has to be a compelling reason for that to happen, and this...uh...really doesn't rise to that level. To say the least.

The idiot has withheld billions in medical research money to universities, but you don't think he would withhold money over sports? Wow.

[The Sultan]

In normal times yes schools would not worry about losing federal funding but this executive branch has froze or terminated billions in federal university funding.

The idiot has withheld billions in medical research money to universities, but you don't think he would withhold money over sports? Wow.

Yeah, I don't think you both understand how this works. Executive orders determine how the executive branch is going to carry out existing law. Withholding federal dollars that have been granted to colleges and universities can be done within existing federal law. (Some of them are getting challenged however because the law requires some conditions for the withholding that the government hasn't met.)

The executive branch cannot withhold dollars outside of law. There is no law that allows withholding federal funds from colleges and universities because they play players who have been deemed ineligible by the NCAA. By specifically bringing up women's sports, they are trying to get there through Title IX, but that's a specious argument - and one that is very likely to be overturned by the courts.

So yes, it is actually quite legally consistent that Trump can issue exeutive orders withholding medical research, but cannot withhold federal dollars due to sports.

The NCAA may use this as a reason to apply new rules consistent with what he is asking for, but that doesn't mean they can survive a court challenge. There is no underlying law that allows the NCAA to do this, which is why they have been lobbying Congress for the last few years.

[Jockey]

So you're saying trump can't do it because it's illegal. Cuz staying within the law is one of his big concerns. 

[The Sultan]

So you're saying trump can't do it because it's illegal. Cuz staying within the law is one of his big concerns. 

He can certainly try. It would likely be overturned by courts pretty quickly.

My guess is that this largely is ignored and no one pays attention to it after August 1.

[Jay Bee]

The idiot has withheld billions in medical research money to universities, but you don't think he would withhold money over sports? Wow.

^^^ ban dis gf individual

#NoPolitics

[Uncle Rico]

The idiot has withheld billions in medical research money to universities, but you don't think he would withhold money over sports? Wow.

I agree with this analysis

[Badgerhater]

Yeah, I don't think you both understand how this works. Executive orders determine how the executive branch is going to carry out existing law. Withholding federal dollars that have been granted to colleges and universities can be done within existing federal law. (Some of them are getting challenged however because the law requires some conditions for the withholding that the government hasn't met.)

The executive branch cannot withhold dollars outside of law. There is no law that allows withholding federal funds from colleges and universities because they play players who have been deemed ineligible by the NCAA. By specifically bringing up women's sports, they are trying to get there through Title IX, but that's a specious argument - and one that is very likely to be overturned by the courts.

So yes, it is actually quite legally consistent that Trump can issue exeutive orders withholding medical research, but cannot withhold federal dollars due to sports.

The NCAA may use this as a reason to apply new rules consistent with what he is asking for, but that doesn't mean they can survive a court challenge. There is no underlying law that allows the NCAA to do this, which is why they have been lobbying Congress for the last few years.

This was a factual, thorough and dispassionate arguement free of emotional and childish outburst.   So why is it on Scoop?

[Jockey]

He can certainly try. It would likely be overturned by courts pretty quickly.

My guess is that this largely is ignored and no one pays attention to it after August 1.

In other words, exactly as I said. Yes, he can do it. The fact that it likely would be overturned by the courts is irrelevant to whether he can or can't do it.

[The_Blaze]

It should be overturned but the purpose of this is to see how far they can go.  The law be damned.

Will create uncertainty in the short term and possibly a larger portal pool starting tomorrow.

If this was thought through properly then make the order valid after this portal. But of course it was done during peak College basketball media - the final 4.  That was not a coincidence. 

[MU82]

"Tuesday will be Transfer Portal Day, and NIL Day, all wrapped up in one, in College Basketball. There will be nothing like it!!! Open the F@ckin' Wallets, you crazy bastards, or you'll be living in Hell – JUST WATCH! Praise be to Dolla."