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Uncle Rico

Quote from: forgetful on April 11, 2026, 04:33:47 PMWhat do scoopers think the odds are that if a deal isn't reached, that the US and Israel re-initiate attacks before the end of the 2-week ceasefire?

Israel will bomb them regardless
It's only a few pennies

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: forgetful on April 11, 2026, 04:33:47 PMWhat do scoopers think the odds are that if a deal isn't reached, that the US and Israel re-initiate attacks before the end of the 2-week ceasefire?

Israel hasn't stopped attacking yet, no need to re-initiate.

Bibi is a war criminal
"The greatest economy in the history of the world is on the horizon."

jesmu84

Quote from: forgetful on April 11, 2026, 04:33:47 PMWhat do scoopers think the odds are that if a deal isn't reached, that the US and Israel re-initiate attacks before the end of the 2-week ceasefire?

I see you're unfamiliar with how Israel defines "ceasefire"

rocky_warrior

Quote from: jesmu84 on April 11, 2026, 05:41:10 PMI see you're unfamiliar with how Israel defines "ceasefire"

Simple language problem.  In Hebrew, the "cease" is silent.

MU82

Quote from: rocky_warrior on April 11, 2026, 06:05:51 PMSimple language problem.  In Hebrew, the "cease" is silent.

You got a lotta chutzpah, pal!
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

pbiflyer

Quote from: forgetful on April 10, 2026, 08:09:56 PMNone of this would have happened if the Pope was an American.
You mean if the Pope was a brewers fan.

The Sultan

Quote from: pbiflyer on April 11, 2026, 08:21:40 PMYou mean if the Pope was a brewers fan.

Yeah, this Pope seems way too south-sidey....
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MU82

Unfortunately, the peace talks failed to deliver peace, with each side blaming the other for rejecting suggested terms.

Capt. Bone Spur said earlier in the day that he didn't care if a deal was reached or not because he "already won." Perfect.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: MU82 on April 11, 2026, 10:08:33 PMUnfortunately, the peace talks failed to deliver peace, with each side blaming the other for rejecting suggested terms.

Capt. Bone Spur said earlier in the day that he didn't care if a deal was reached or not because he "already won." Perfect.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.



Allegedly the Iranians want to deal only with Vance, not Witkoff or Kushner. Trump can and will blame Vance for the failures, the Iranians have an opportunity to establish some sort of working relationship with Vance in case he becomes president via Trumps death or possibly in 2028. Everybody gets something out of this-Trump, the Iranians, and Vance. I think Vance is the biggest winner-he can claim to have tried to settle a mess he did not create and look like a reasonable leader. It will sell with many Americans.
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

"All of our answers are unencumbered by the thought process." NPR's Click and Clack of Car Talk.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on April 11, 2026, 10:41:09 PMAllegedly the Iranians want to deal only with Vance, not Witkoff or Kushner. Trump can and will blame Vance for the failures, the Iranians have an opportunity to establish some sort of working relationship with Vance in case he becomes president via Trumps death or possibly in 2028. Everybody gets something out of this-Trump, the Iranians, and Vance. I think Vance is the biggest winner-he can claim to have tried to settle a mess he did not create and look like a reasonable leader. It will sell with many Americans.

Rubio couldn't bother with it because he was at a UFC fight.

If history has taught us anything, if you can't put together a peace plan in 6 hours, you give up because it isn't possible.
It's only a few pennies

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 12, 2026, 06:30:32 AMRubio couldn't bother with it because he was at a UFC fight.

If history has taught us anything, if you can't put together a peace plan in 6 hours, you give up because it isn't possible.

The master negotiator, in a desperate attempt to find an off ramp for his colossal failure, initially agreed to Iran's 10-point proposal...which included Iran continuing to enrich uranium and controlling the Strait while collecting tolls. Couch unnatural carnal knowledgeer Vance can claim all he wants that Iran didn't understand their own proposal (LOL), but Trump put the U.S. in a no-win situation because he is unnatural carnal knowledgeing moron.

Trump brought the same level of expertise to this as he brought to bankrupting casinos, and airlines, and mail order steak companies, and...
"The greatest economy in the history of the world is on the horizon."

Uncle Rico

Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on April 12, 2026, 07:09:26 AMThe master negotiator, in a desperate attempt to find an off ramp for his colossal failure, initially agreed to Iran's 10-point proposal...which included Iran continuing to enrich uranium and controlling the Strait while collecting tolls. Couch unnatural carnal knowledgeer Vance can claim all he wants that Iran didn't understand their own proposal (LOL), but Trump put the U.S. in a no-win situation because he is unnatural carnal knowledgeing moron.

Trump brought the same level of expertise to this as he brought to bankrupting casinos, and airlines, and mail order steak companies, and...

At least we have the greatest economy ever
It's only a few pennies

tower912

Tariff-ic economy.
In honor of Pope Leo XIV,
Matthew 25: 31-46

The Sultan

So apparently we are going to blockade the strait so no ships can pass through...even those who have paid the "toll" to Iran.

Which is strange since Trump declared we "won" already.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Billy Hoyle

"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

The Sultan

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on April 12, 2026, 08:53:03 AMConcepts of the plan, y'all:

https://x.com/i/status/2043321551735406760


I mean, he doesn't want Iran profiting from this, but I'm not sure what the end game is here. Are they really going to threaten to sink a Chinese or Indian tanker?
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Uncle Rico

Quote from: The Sultan on April 12, 2026, 09:07:15 AMI mean, he doesn't want Iran profiting from this, but I'm not sure what the end game is here. Are they really going to threaten to sink a Chinese or Indian tanker?

You armchair generals don't understand what's going on.  It's the art of the deal in action
It's only a few pennies

#UnleashThePortal

Trump is now blockading the strait of Hormuz.... which is effectively what Iran was already doing?

Winning

Uncle Rico

Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on April 12, 2026, 10:06:42 AMTrump is now blockading the strait of Hormuz.... which is effectively what Iran was already doing?

Winning

Just laughing at scoopers thinking they understand foreign diplomacy as well as the president does.  Many people say he's the greatest diplomat ever.  He's ended a dozen wars at least and his trade deals are the envy of past presidents.  Many people are saying this.  Many strong, men are actually crying as they say this.  It's never been seen before
It's only a few pennies

forgetful

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on April 12, 2026, 08:53:03 AMConcepts of the plan, y'all:

https://x.com/i/status/2043321551735406760

This doesn't make sense on so many levels. It now also nullifies any actions the UN has taken or can take on the matter.

Because if you want to make a resolution against Iran for blocking the strait, then you also have to make a resolution against the US for blocking the strait. Which we either veto, since it is also against us, or allow a resolution by the UN indicating we are violating international law.

Brilliant!

#UnleashThePortal

Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 12, 2026, 10:55:13 AMJust laughing at scoopers thinking they understand foreign diplomacy as well as the president does.  Many people say he's the greatest diplomat ever.  He's ended a dozen wars at least and his trade deals are the envy of past presidents.  Many people are saying this.  Many strong, men are actually crying as they say this.  It's never been seen before

He's just speed running my latest civ 5 global domination game.

Billy Hoyle

This makes sense. However it ends up he'll definitely have nailed it.

https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/2043355677192544753
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

forgetful

We're going to either start a World War, or another forever Middle East war, that both bankrupts the country and to actually win would require reinitiating the draft...aren't we?

Jockey

Quote from: The Sultan on April 12, 2026, 09:07:15 AMI mean, he doesn't want Iran profiting from this, but I'm not sure what the end game is here. Are they really going to threaten to sink a Chinese or Indian tanker?

End game?

That's hilarious.

Jockey

Quote from: forgetful on April 12, 2026, 12:13:58 PMWe're going to either start a World War, or another forever Middle East war, that both bankrupts the country and to actually win would require reinitiating the draft...aren't we?

The Vietnam war protests would look tiny compared to what would happen if the draft is re-instituted.

And no, tall $$y-grabber Jr. wouldn't be drafted. Bone spurs are highly hereditary.

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