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How many should Shaka take/cut

1 (Lowery's void)
2 (Lowery's spot +1)
3 (Lowery's spot +2)
4 (Lowery's spot +3)
5 (Lowery's spot +4)
=>6 (Overhaulshima)

onepost

Quote from: swoopem on March 23, 2026, 11:57:39 AMWho do you think is leaving? Have you heard anything?

All signs point to Tre (no more Marquette in Instagram bio!!!) and Sean being shown the door. I'd heard Sean wanted to come back but that Shaka let him know in February he'd be leaving - just hope that's true.

I have no idea on Caedin and Josh. In a perfect world we keep Josh and send Caedin back to the rec leagues, but who knows. With Sheek being the future at center, and with it painfully clear we'll bring in a starting center, you only need one at most.

I've long been under the impression we add 3 meaningful portal players - Minessale, wing, center. So you only need Tre and Sean to leave for that to manifest, but out of principle a guy like Caedin needs to be shown the door IMO.

wadesworld

Quote from: Zog from Margo on March 23, 2026, 12:01:25 PMI'm fine with Owens returning but MU needs some guys up front who will be physical. Owens plays pretty soft on both ends of the floor and Parham isn't exactly a banger. Egbuonu is a step in the right direction but he'll only be a freshman.

All Parham did since January was bully his way to the basket, and did so very successfully.

Jay Bee

btw, folks...

I project our minutes continuity will be HIGHER in 2026-27 than it was this year.

#RGV, baby
The portal is NOT closed.

1990Warrior

Quote from: onepost on March 23, 2026, 12:15:36 PMAll signs point to Tre (no more Marquette in Instagram bio!!!) and Sean being shown the door. I'd heard Sean wanted to come back but that Shaka let him know in February he'd be leaving - just hope that's true.

I have no idea on Caedin and Josh. In a perfect world we keep Josh and send Caedin back to the rec leagues, but who knows. With Sheek being the future at center, and with it painfully clear we'll bring in a starting center, you only need one at most.

I've long been under the impression we add 3 meaningful portal players - Minessale, wing, center. So you only need Tre and Sean to leave for that to manifest, but out of principle a guy like Caedin needs to be shown the door IMO.



We need a back point guard if that happens. 

I would hope that Tre could stay and graduate with a 15 man roster.  Back up PG would still be a priority if he stays.

onepost

Quote from: 1990Warrior on March 23, 2026, 12:20:50 PMWe need a back point guard if that happens. 

I would hope that Tre could stay and graduate with a 15 man roster.  Back up PG would still be a priority if he stays.

NM you corrected it haha.
I believe Minessale can take over PG minutes when Nigel needs a break, but totally agree we need backup PG solidified.

Pakuni

Quote from: wadesworld on March 23, 2026, 12:15:58 PMAll Parham did since January was bully his way to the basket, and did so very successfully.

That's true.
As a post defender, though, he still has a ways to go. For example, Tre Carroll - who's a good player, to be fair - had his way with Royce in that BE tournament game.

wadesworld

Quote from: Pakuni on March 23, 2026, 12:25:05 PMThat's true.
As a post defender, though, he still has a ways to go. For example, Tre Carroll - who's a good player, to be fair - had his way with Royce in that BE tournament game.

Definitely true.  I'm hoping to have a true 5 with Sheek backing up the 5 next year, so Royce won't have to play any 5 at all.  He may still get bullied by some 4s defensively (like Carroll is a 4, although Xavier went small a lot).  But I'd like him not to have to try to slow down a Zuby for a few minutes when our starting 5 gets in foul trouble, or be left with Caedin having to play minutes.

jfp61

Quote from: onepost on March 23, 2026, 11:55:36 AMPaint Touches had a blog completely contradicting this point but go off, man!

Paint touches loves damarius owens...

Straight up ask him.

But please tell me that non con games don't matter.

Zog from Margo

Quote from: Pakuni on March 23, 2026, 12:25:05 PMThat's true.
As a post defender, though, he still has a ways to go. For example, Tre Carroll - who's a good player, to be fair - had his way with Royce in that BE tournament game.

Bingo. Parham is a talented post scorer but he's slight. MU needs at least one big body (and preferably two).

jfp61

Quote from: onepost on March 23, 2026, 11:40:12 AMDamarius is a great rotation piece and validates the culture in place that he wants to stay even if not guaranteed to get more PT.

Except guys don't come back unless they expect some playing time.

Damarius might be a "great rotation piece"... He hasn't been so far.

jfp61

Quote from: Pakuni on March 23, 2026, 11:55:19 AMHow many players do you believe they intend to bring in from the portal?

They will probably bring in three..

They should probably bring in five or six, and DO and CH walk.

But they won't. I hope they are right.

onepost

Quote from: jfp61 on March 23, 2026, 12:34:37 PMPaint touches loves damarius owens...

Straight up ask him.

But please tell me that non con games don't matter.

Yeah absolutely they matter.
But as the season progressed he made incredible strides on defense. So it lends that he's greatly improving on that side of the ball.

jfp61

Quote from: onepost on March 23, 2026, 12:41:34 PMYeah absolutely they matter.
But as the season progressed he made incredible strides on defense. So it lends that he's greatly improving on that side of the ball.

Congrats... you went from being the worst defender on the team, to being the second worst defender on the team ahead of 5'8" sean jones.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: jfp61 on March 23, 2026, 12:38:45 PMExcept guys don't come back unless they expect some playing time.

Damarius might be a "great rotation piece"... He hasn't been so far.

So you think Tre Norman has been expecting playing time every year?
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

cheebs09

Quote from: Galway Eagle on March 23, 2026, 12:48:31 PMSo you think Tre Norman has been expecting playing time every year?

I feel he saw a path to playing time this year if he improved. He just didn't really improve enough to go out and get it.

The Sultan

Quote from: jfp61 on March 23, 2026, 12:41:07 PMThey will probably bring in three..

They should probably bring in five or six, and DO and CH walk.

But they won't. I hope they are right.


It was an unrealistic expectation from when they admitted they need to take a different path that they were going to bring in five or six transfers.
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Pakuni

Quote from: Galway Eagle on March 23, 2026, 12:48:31 PMSo you think Tre Norman has been expecting playing time every year?

I would think he expected it this year. Played 9 mpg as a sophomore, and two starting guards ahead of him were graduating. I would think he saw himself in competition with Lowery for the third guard spot, or at least in position to be the primary backup for Lowery and Ross.

jfp61

Quote from: The Sultan on March 23, 2026, 01:13:03 PMIt was an unrealistic expectation from when they admitted they need to take a different path that they were going to bring in five or six transfers.

It just means they are unwilling or unable to truely self scout.

I hope I'm wrong and owens is good. There is nothing in the past that suggests this though.

MuMark

Things change......Stevens didn't expect to start most of the season......yet he did.

If Owens earns rotation minutes he will get them.......if someone else is better they will get them.

Owens had some games early in the season when he didn't play........I'm sure he expected to play going into the year.

They have 15 roster spots........nobody should have an issue with him returning.

His upside is worth the spot........if you expected Shaka to run off everybody not named Nigel, Royce, Adrien or Sheek you were delusional.

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: jfp61 on March 23, 2026, 12:43:15 PMCongrats... you went from being the worst defender on the team, to being the second worst defender on the team ahead of 5'8" sean jones.

Quote from: jfp61 on March 23, 2026, 01:27:14 PMI hope I'm wrong and owens is good. There is nothing in the past that suggests this though.

Huh. The data shows DO improved significantly on defense as the season went on.

It's OK to change your opinion when the data changes.
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jfp61

Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on March 23, 2026, 01:55:55 PMHuh. The data shows DO improved significantly on defense as the season went on.

It's OK to change your opinion when the data changes.

You can significantly improve and still finish as the second worst defender on the team.

These things are not mutually exclusive.

If you start off bad enough, anything is possible.

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: jfp61 on March 23, 2026, 02:21:45 PMYou can significantly improve and still finish as the second worst defender on the team.

These things are not mutually exclusive.

If you start off bad enough, anything is possible.

Except he was legitimately good the last two months of the season according to Paint Touches, yet you refuse to acknowledge this because it doesn't fit your narrative.

BCHoopster

Owens has to show consistency to play more, his D is average, not a great rebounder, to skinny, and his shot is debatable.  A big center might help him more than you think. If you can pick up a veteran rebounder type I would take him as well or is Alex that player??  Is Minnesale a done deal?

Pakuni

Quote from: jfp61 on March 23, 2026, 02:21:45 PMYou can significantly improve and still finish as the second worst defender on the team.

These things are not mutually exclusive.

If you start off bad enough, anything is possible.

This really is a silly argument you're making. Yes, DO was a train wreck to start the season. He got additional PT and improved. Going forward, it's more likely we see the guy from the last two months of the season than the guy from the first two months. And that guy is good enough to fill a roster spot on this team.

Using your logic, MU should also consider dumping Parham, given how he struggled through the nonconference schedule. Improvement be damned.

Pakuni

Interesting name in the portal. Same prep school and DO and Parham.


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