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DoctorV

1) Sure feels that way, doesn't it.

2) Mistakes were made, by everyone involved, but at the end of the day it just seems like this years Marquette just doesn't have it.

3) To a man, let's stop the attacking game on the ones that have taken this program to these new heights. We've been spoiled recently, so a year like this seems extra bad.

4) Really bad Benny 1H, combined with pretty bad Chase 2H and you can't win, not this year.

5) Nigel James Jr, proud of you. Don't care about the mistakes.

6) Stop hedging out to the half court line, please.

7) I asked for zone in the game chat as half, nicely done Shaka. Also, I asked for not subbing in the last 6/7 mins and there was none, thank you.

8) On the flip side- sitting Chase at the 6 min mark in the 1H is a mistake coach wouldn't make in the past. Caedin in overtime... c'mon. I won't pin the last play of regulation on Shaka alone, but between him and Chase you've gotta do better.

9) You know it's gotten bad when you're begging for a freshman in overtime. Ben gets hurt, best play is to go small with Parham at the 5 and Adrien in a small lineup. That's on the staff, and the lack of growth/improvement in the offseason.

10) The fight was there, but there was always a feeling of "Marquette is just not good enough"

11) Don't ever forget, Shaka doesn't have to answer to anyone. He's done enough for this program since he's been here. There is a Greek saying that goes "you've made your bed, it's time to sleep in it." Coach has work to do, just let the man do his work.

12) Believe it or not, despite the thread title the season isn't over. Brighter days ahead.
We Are Marquette

GB Warrior

If it's not a conflicting statement to say that the team isn't good enough, but Shaka doesn't have to answer to anyone, this athletic department is diseased beyond repair.

Zog from Margo

MU made a run late by switching to zone and discontinuing the press. It's somewhat of an indictment of the staff that guys who are in their second and third years at MU are so lost defensively in man that you have to go zone.

I cringe every time MU takes a 3.

If I'd have been as big and as athletic as Lowery, I'd have tried to drive it to score almost every time I touched the ball. He just doesn't have a scorer's mentality.

AlumKCof93

This will be a long year. Bottom feeders of a bad Big East. I'm not expecting it to get much better next year.

That said, I'm firmly behind Shaka. If we are in this spot two years from now,I'll question that support. But Shaka needs to re-evaluate.

The slip started last year when no one stepped up. Shaka stayed the course. If he is not going to take transfers, he needs to take a different approach to recruiting. He's made too many mistakes in recent years and it's killed the programs momentum.
"Yes, Dinnertime!  The perfect break between work and drunk" - Homer J. Simpson

MuggsyB

Quote from: DoctorV on November 19, 2025, 09:28:47 PM1) Sure feels that way, doesn't it.

2) Mistakes were made, by everyone involved, but at the end of the day it just seems like this years Marquette just doesn't have it.

3) To a man, let's stop the attacking game on the ones that have taken this program to these new heights. We've been spoiled recently, so a year like this seems extra bad.

4) Really bad Benny 1H, combined with pretty bad Chase 2H and you can't win, not this year.

5) Nigel James Jr, proud of you. Don't care about the mistakes.

6) Stop hedging out to the half court line, please.

7) I asked for zone in the game chat as half, nicely done Shaka. Also, I asked for not subbing in the last 6/7 mins and there was none, thank you.

8) On the flip side- sitting Chase at the 6 min mark in the 1H is a mistake coach wouldn't make in the past. Caedin in overtime... c'mon. I won't pin the last play of regulation on Shaka alone, but between him and Chase you've gotta do better.

9) You know it's gotten bad when you're begging for a freshman in overtime. Ben gets hurt, best play is to go small with Parham at the 5 and Adrien in a small lineup. That's on the staff, and the lack of growth/improvement in the offseason.

10) The fight was there, but there was always a feeling of "Marquette is just not good enough"

11) Don't ever forget, Shaka doesn't have to answer to anyone. He's done enough for this program since he's been here. There is a Greek saying that goes "you've made your bed, it's time to sleep in it." Coach has work to do, just let the man do his work.

12) Believe it or not, despite the thread title the season isn't over. Brighter days ahead.
We Are Marquette

I'm watching Golden Eagles videos.  Most people don't realize they can dive bomb at 200 mph and go 110 mph horizontally. 

nyg

Maybe others might agree, but brighter days ahead?  Bring that up after the Purdue game.

Kudos to Ben Gold who played the best three minutes of his MU career from four minutes to one minute left in regulation.  He hit two threes, got three rebounds and made two outstanding defensive plays.  If not for him MU loses by 10 in regulation. The Lowery airball, James turnover and not getting shot off, all in tie game in last two minutes was terrible, along with three points in OT on one shot made. 

GB Warrior

Quote from: MuggsyB on November 19, 2025, 09:43:29 PMI'm watching Golden Eagles videos.  Most people don't realize they can dive bomb at 200 mph and go 110 mph horizontally. 

They're a little gamey though

Newsdreams

Quote from: MuggsyB on November 19, 2025, 09:43:29 PMI'm watching Golden Eagles videos.  Most people don't realize they can dive bomb at 200 mph and go 110 mph horizontally. 
Amazes me you didn't know that, weak
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mileskishnish72

5 & 6 are true for sure.

Ben tweaking his ankle at end of regulation probably led to Hamilto being out there in OT.
Agree 13 would have been the better call.

The saddest thing, to me, is that despite this display of ineptitude by multiple people Owens couldn't get a sniff. I was really optimistic that with him healthy we'd see a player.

TFlegend

Hoo boy...I didn't think we would be good, but didn't think it would be this bad.  The continuity of our roster was supposed to prevent non-competitive teams.  And what exactly is worked on in practice? 

Lost season aside, Shaka has earned the benefit of the doubt with what he's done the past four years.  He should be given time to fix it. 

Shooter McGavin

Quote from: mileskishnish72 on November 19, 2025, 09:47:14 PM5 & 6 are true for sure.

Ben tweaking his ankle at end of regulation probably led to Hamilto being out there in OT.
Agree 13 would have been the better call.

The saddest thing, to me, is that despite this display of ineptitude by multiple people Owens couldn't get a sniff. I was really optimistic that with him healthy we'd see a player.

Owens was healthy the majority of the year last year.  His preseason injury was way too played up on scoop as a source of not getting into a rhythm for months and months. The hope was that he would develop with a healthy offseason but he had a healthy season last year and did nothing.  At some point you are either good or you are not.

cheebs09

Quote from: MuggsyB on November 19, 2025, 09:43:29 PMI'm watching Golden Eagles videos.  Most people don't realize they can dive bomb at 200 mph and go 110 mph horizontally. 

This season dove bomb at 200 mph.

Pakuni

Quote from: DoctorV on November 19, 2025, 09:28:47 PM11) Don't ever forget, Shaka doesn't have to answer to anyone. He's done enough for this program since he's been here. There is a Greek saying that goes "you've made your bed, it's time to sleep in it." Coach has work to do, just let the man do his work.

This is absurd. Shaka's earned a long, long leash, but maybe at least give us a Final Four before handing out lifetime passes. One conference title + one Sweet 16 = "Done Enough" is wildly COLE.

Not sure how anyone on Scoop prevents him from doing his work.

Quote12) Believe it or not, despite the thread title the season isn't over. Brighter days ahead.
We Are Marquette

Yes, there are more games to be played, so technically the season isn't over. But home losses to Dayton and depleted Maryland don't indicate brighter days are ahead. Appreciate the optimism, though.

MuggsyB

Quote from: Newsdreams on November 19, 2025, 09:46:46 PMAmazes me you didn't know that, weak

Of course I knew that!  I just needed a distraction after the game.  They don't have any natural predators. 

MuggsyB


DoctorV

Quote from: Pakuni on November 19, 2025, 10:00:57 PMThis is absurd. Shaka's earned a long, long leash, but maybe at least give us a Final Four before handing out lifetime passes. One conference title + one Sweet 16 = "Done Enough" is wildly COLE.

Not sure how anyone on Scoop prevents him from doing his work.

Yes, there are more games to be played, so technically the season isn't over. But home losses to Dayton and depleted Maryland don't indicate brighter days are ahead. Appreciate the optimism, though.

No one mentioned a lifetime pass.

Is your definition of "long long leash" 6 games into a failed season?

Weak definition, my friend.

HutchwasClutch

Totally inexcusable and on Shaka not getting a shot up last possession of regulation.  They had 17 seconds and a full timeout to discuss how to attack.  The ball barely moved.  It was ridiculous and Shaka owns that. 

rocky_warrior

Quote from: DoctorV on November 19, 2025, 09:28:47 PMDon't ever forget, Shaka doesn't have to answer to anyone

BS

Pakuni

Quote from: DoctorV on November 19, 2025, 10:05:14 PMNo one mentioned a lifetime pass.

Is your definition of "long long leash" 6 games into a failed season?

Weak definition, my friend.

Nobody's calling for Shaka's job after six games. Quite the opposite, I wrote he has a "long, long leash." Weak straw man, my friend

If not lifetime pass, what exactly do you mean when you say Shaka answers to nobody and has done enough?

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DoctorV

Quote from: Pakuni on November 19, 2025, 10:08:46 PMNobody's calling for Shaka's job after six games. Quite the opposite, I wrote he has a "long, long leash." Weak straw man, my friend

If not lifetime pass, what exactly do you mean when you say Shaka answers to nobody and has done enough?

I mean in this season

HutchwasClutch

Wish Nigel's aggressiveness and confidence would be contagious.  He's a work in progress, but much to like.

GoldenEagles03

Sean is out a few more weeks. Our schedule is only getting tougher but the play on the court seems to be getting worse. Shaka's answers in the Postgame were pretty cringe worthy bad.

https://x.com/MatthewBaltzMU/status/1991357146999714246?t=n0CMRYTrBwkNARU-L1k9fg&s=19

https://x.com/MatthewBaltzMU/status/1991354379262390575?t=2X1s1l_S3wxj-B57m88ZFw&s=19
VIOLENCE!

DoctorV

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on November 19, 2025, 10:13:49 PMSean is out a few more weeks. Our schedule is only getting tougher but the play on the court seems to be getting worse. Shaka's answers in the Postgame were pretty cringe worthy bad.

https://x.com/MatthewBaltzMU/status/1991357146999714246?t=n0CMRYTrBwkNARU-L1k9fg&s=19

https://x.com/MatthewBaltzMU/status/1991354379262390575?t=2X1s1l_S3wxj-B57m88ZFw&s=19

Why is that cringe worthy bad?

Put yourself in his shoes- you now realize that your system, as designed, isn't fool proof if the upperclassmen don't carry their weight.

However, you've got two very usable 3 year possible starting freshmen guards. You've got some good recruits coming in. You don't want guys like parham, or even Damarius, to jump ship before they can develop into usable.

Even if you plan on shifting course and portalling you stay the same course in the message to retain the youth, and keep the useful upperclassmen. If you feel like you need to, which I think you do, you move on from a few guys and bring in 1-2 talented players in the portal as a stop gap, and let the talent shake itself out.

There are 25 games left, have faith in coach's ability to figure it out if this year is lost, and it's not yet

wadesworld

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on November 19, 2025, 10:13:49 PMSean is out a few more weeks. Our schedule is only getting tougher but the play on the court seems to be getting worse. Shaka's answers in the Postgame were pretty cringe worthy bad.

https://x.com/MatthewBaltzMU/status/1991357146999714246?t=n0CMRYTrBwkNARU-L1k9fg&s=19

https://x.com/MatthewBaltzMU/status/1991354379262390575?t=2X1s1l_S3wxj-B57m88ZFw&s=19

What's cringe worthy bad?

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