It's one game, but.....

[MuggsyB]

There are many concerns.  I'll just basically leave it at that and defer to the Scoop sages. 

[warriorchick]

That comment was totally worth starting a new thread for.

[MuggsyB]

That comment was totally worth starting a new thread for.

Sorry. 

[Farley36]

There are many concerns.  I'll just basically leave it at that and defer to the Scoop sages. 

Anyone surprised that there are many concerns hasn't been paying attention to the steady decline in talent under the Shaka regime.   

[Billy Hoyle]

Anyone surprised that there are many concerns hasn't been paying attention to the steady decline in talent under the Shaka regime.   

the best players in the Shaka era have been Kolek (transfer), Oso (Wojo), O-Max (transfer) Kam (Wojo), and Stevie (Wojo). Obviously Shaka convinced the last two to stay but of Shaka's HS recruits, the best have been Ross and Jop, a big drop from the others).

[Hards Alumni]

the best players in the Shaka era have been Kolek (transfer), Oso (Wojo), O-Max (transfer) Kam (Wojo), and Stevie (Wojo). Obviously Shaka convinced the last two to stay but of Shaka's HS recruits, the best have been Ross and Jop, a big drop from the others).

Don't feed the troll.

[Mu8891]

Yes, it's one game.  But that was a total embarrassment.  They have
Chase, Gold and ( looks like ) James as BE players.  After that ... idk

Other than Chase, they don't have anyone that would start for UCONN, SJU and
( maybe) Creighton.  Gold might be a
6th man type.

Shaka whiffed on the Tre, Zaide, Sean class.  They have FAR less talent than two years ago.  A guy like Hamilton was basically not recruited by anyone

For Shaka's plan ( no transfers, not much NIL ) to work, we have to believe that he's smarter than guys like
Hurley, Izzo, Pitino etc, that are using the Portal.  I don't believe he is

[cheebs09]

That comment was totally worth starting a new thread for.

To be fair, Muggsy keeps it close to the vest and doesn't really react. A post with his thoughts is newsworthy.

[willie warrior]

Anyone surprised that there are many concerns hasn't been paying attention to the steady decline in talent under the Shaka regime.   

How dare you?

[CountryRoads]

A guy like Hamilton was basically not recruited by anyone

I watch that Marquette Thursdays radio show (when they aren't having technical difficulties which is 99% of the time), but they asked Hamilton why he chose Marquette and he no joke said "because they were the only ones that offered me." That's usually not a recipe for success. He has made some improvement though.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Shaka whiffed on the Tre, Zaide, Sean class.  They have FAR less talent than two years ago.  A guy like Hamilton was basically not recruited by anyone

I like Zaide's game. I think he'll be a great role player for this team next two years. Need guys like him.

I am willing to give Sean more time post injury but his first three games have been very bad. He looked like he had never really played competitive basketball today.

Tre is a non factor.

[MuggsyB]

Indiana obviously had a very good shooting game.  Two guys were flamethrowers.  But that said, we defended horribly.  I'm not sure why we had such a difficult time with their screens.  You would have thought 🐘 🐘 were setting them.

On the offensive end, I don't think we're comfortable at all in our h-c sets.  We got to tbe line a ton on hard attacks whick was good.  However, we did a brutal job moving the basketball imo with very few ball reversals.  I thought we were extremely predictable.  I also think we can take that 4-6 foot floater occasionally. 

Owens is the biggest enigma to me.  I thought he'd be a major contributor. The bottom line is that game was a mess.  Hopefully, we'll get over it quickly and figure some things out. 

[Mu8891]

Yes. Hamilton has improved.  And, I hear he's a good kid.

BUT .. think about that ... a guy his size with no offers !?
That means, no Big West ? Or MEAC ? Or
Horizon League!?! No one ?

And Shaka thinks he can make him a BE level player ?

[tower912]

Yep.  Shaka got Hamilton in lieu of him having a year in prep school.  Schools were sniffing around (Gonzaga, iirc), but it was assumed he was going to spend a year at prep school to develop.

He is improving.  He has a ways to go.

[warriors141]

If Shaka is going to rely on retention then he needs to recruit better talent and have more "hits" than misses. Too many guys had to make too big of a jump with this team, I have a feeling this isn't going to be a thrilling year

[tower912]

I think watching a young team grow, develop, get better is one of my favorite things in sports.

[Pakuni]

I think watching a young team grow, develop, get better is one of my favorite things in sports.

The baseball thread says this isn't allowed.
Sorry, I don't make the rules.

[Viper]

Yes, it's one game.  But that was a total embarrassment.  They have
Chase, Gold and ( looks like ) James as BE players.  After that ... idk

Other than Chase, they don't have anyone that would start for UCONN, SJU and
( maybe) Creighton.  Gold might be a
6th man type.

Shaka whiffed on the Tre, Zaide, Sean class.  They have FAR less talent than two years ago.  A guy like Hamilton was basically not recruited by anyone

For Shaka's plan ( no transfers, not much NIL ) to work, we have to believe that he's smarter than guys like
Hurley, Izzo, Pitino etc, that are using the Portal.  I don't believe he is

There are many concerns.  I'll just basically leave it at that and defer to the Scoop sages. 

i'm looking forward to the Purdue game.

[18thandWells]

The baseball thread says this isn't allowed.
Sorry, I don't make the rules.

If watching the Marquette/Indiana game was like being a White Sox fan, we'll still have to "agree to disagree," about the level of fun.

[Viper]

I think watching a young team grow, develop, get better is one of my favorite things in sports.

my fav thing in sports is winning. Anyway, anyhow. Win now. Tired of players that must 'develop'. Today? We basically got smoked by a MVC team.

[Zog from Margo]

the best players in the Shaka era have been Kolek (transfer), Oso (Wojo), O-Max (transfer) Kam (Wojo), and Stevie (Wojo). Obviously Shaka convinced the last two to stay but of Shaka's HS recruits, the best have been Ross and Jop, a big drop from the others).

You seriously think Ross is a big drop from Stevie? Remember Kalkbrenner covering Stevie from 15' away? Why does Shaka not get credit for Kolek and OMax? I don't understand the longing for Wojo but to each his own.

[tower912]

my fav thing in sports is winning. Anyway, anyhow. Win now. Tired of players that must 'develop'. Today? We basically got smoked by a MVC team.

I like winning, too.  This team will win. 

[Billy Hoyle]

You seriously think Ross is a big drop from Stevie? Remember Kalkbrenner covering Stevie from 15' away? Why does Shaka not get credit for Kolek and OMax? I don't understand the longing for Wojo but to each his own.

Nobody is longing for Woji but I am expressing some worry over the roster construction as long as Shaka refuses to bring in any transfers, particularly when two of his best players were transfers

[Viper]

I like winning, too.  This team will win. 

i sure hope they do. Get right on Wednesday, then let it rip on Saturday vs Brent

[Galway Eagle]

Nobody is longing for Woji but I am expressing some worry over the roster construction as long as Shaka refuses to bring in any transfers, particularly when two of his best players were transfers

It is worth stating neither were the rent a top player hired guns that now come to mind with the portal. Omax didn't play much his first year, and Kolek was a backup to Moresell. They were closer to traditional transfers than hired guns