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Marquette vs
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Date/Time: Dec 30, 2025, 6:00pm
TV: FS1
Schedule for 2025-26
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wadesworld

This defense STINKS out loud.

Johnny B

Missing anyone from the last 4 years

wadesworld

Layup. Lines.

(And warmup 3s).

tower912

I miss the innate understanding of help defense and switching that comes from playing together for so many years.
In honor of Pope Leo XIV,
Matthew 25: 31-46

Also in honor of Pope Leo,  I have no enemies.  I have brothers and sisters I sometimes disagree with.

wadesworld

Quote from: tower912 on November 09, 2025, 01:59:59 PMI miss the innate understanding of help defense and switching that comes from playing together for so many years.

That should be one of the benefits of Shaka's retention model. All 5 starters are in their 3rd + year in the program.

tower912

It looks like a different system.   Less switching 1-5.
In honor of Pope Leo XIV,
Matthew 25: 31-46

Also in honor of Pope Leo,  I have no enemies.  I have brothers and sisters I sometimes disagree with.

Daniel

Keep in mind, this is Shaka's first team that is his 100%.  So . . . What will we see going forward.....

JakeBarnes

Quote from: tower912 on November 09, 2025, 02:11:48 PMIt looks like a different system.   Less switching 1-5.

but somehow worse hedging at the key.
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

"We all carry within us our places of exile, our crimes and our ravages. But our task is not to unleash them on the world; it is to fight them in ourselves and in others." -Camus, The Rebel

Farley36

At this point we're missing Wojo.

wadesworld

Quote from: Daniel on November 09, 2025, 02:15:41 PMKeep in mind, this is Shaka's first team that is his 100%.  So . . . What will we see going forward.....

I'm not worried at all about Shaka and his teams going forward. I am worried about this year's team.

The good news is the offense looks okay, even with a bunch of missed bunnies and open threes.

But this program needs to defend.

JakeBarnes

Quote from: wadesworld on November 09, 2025, 02:26:16 PMI'm not worried at all about Shaka and his teams going forward. I am worried about this year's team.

The good news is the offense looks okay, even with a bunch of missed bunnies and open threes.

But this program needs to defend.

Hey now. they got like 3 stops today.
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

"We all carry within us our places of exile, our crimes and our ravages. But our task is not to unleash them on the world; it is to fight them in ourselves and in others." -Camus, The Rebel

tower912

Quote from: JakeBarnes on November 09, 2025, 02:24:48 PMbut somehow worse hedging at the key.
IU did a great job of running DeVries and Wilkerson off screens. MU looked indecisive on how to defend that.  Too often, the screener's defender did not jump out at the shooter.  Too often the shooter's defender was trailing too far behind.  Then, on the rare occasion that both defenders went for the shooter, the screener rolled and there was no weak side help.

Better communication, better switching, more reps, please.
In honor of Pope Leo XIV,
Matthew 25: 31-46

Also in honor of Pope Leo,  I have no enemies.  I have brothers and sisters I sometimes disagree with.

willie warrior

Quote from: Daniel on November 09, 2025, 02:15:41 PMKeep in mind, this is Shaka's first team that is his 100%.  So . . . What will we see going forward.....
Hmmmm....
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

Elonsmusk

The refereeing today totally took MU's defense out of what it does best - heat up ballhandlers/body to body.  IU got called for plenty of tick tack fouls too - but we rely so much on physical, ball pressure defense to create turnovers - refs took that away today.

mileskishnish72

Quote from: Elonsmusk on November 09, 2025, 03:26:22 PMThe refereeing today totally took MU's defense out of what it does best - heat up ballhandlers/body to body.  IU got called for plenty of tick tack fouls too - but we rely so much on physical, ball pressure defense to create turnovers - refs took that away today.

Hard to blame the refs for that performance.

GB Warrior

Quote from: mileskishnish72 on November 09, 2025, 03:34:39 PMHard to blame the refs for that performance.

No kidding. We were in the double bonus for nearly 30 minutes and couldn't do sh!t

tower912

Quote from: GB Warrior on November 09, 2025, 03:54:02 PMNo kidding. We were in the double bonus for nearly 30 minutes and couldn't do sh!t
MU shot and made a ton of free throws.  Also scored more points in the paint.  3's and TO's.
In honor of Pope Leo XIV,
Matthew 25: 31-46

Also in honor of Pope Leo,  I have no enemies.  I have brothers and sisters I sometimes disagree with.

GB Warrior

#17
Quote from: tower912 on November 09, 2025, 03:55:45 PMMU shot and made a ton of free throws.  Also scored more points in the paint.  3's and TO's.

Yes that's my point. The officials had a positive impact for Marquette.

Edit: see why that was confusing. We were *shooting* the double bonus for nearly 30 mins

Daniel

Quote from: tower912 on November 09, 2025, 03:55:45 PMMU shot and made a ton of free throws.  Also scored more points in the paint.  3's and TO's.
and 10 assists vs 27 for IU. 

Nukem2

Quote from: Daniel on November 09, 2025, 03:57:12 PMand 10 assists vs 27 for IU. 
The experience of all those 4, 5 and 6 year guys for IU certainly showed today.

MU82

Quote from: Elonsmusk on November 09, 2025, 03:26:22 PMThe refereeing today totally took MU's defense out of what it does best - heat up ballhandlers/body to body.  IU got called for plenty of tick tack fouls too - but we rely so much on physical, ball pressure defense to create turnovers - refs took that away today.

C'mon, man.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Elonsmusk

Quote from: MU82 on November 09, 2025, 04:22:24 PMC'mon, man.

If you don't understand the way the game was called today was a big reason why we gave up 100+, I don't know what to tell you.

Doesn't matter that we shot a ton of FTs. MU's defense is predicated on heating the ball handler up and playing physically. It couldn't do that today. Neither could Indiana..I just doubt IU's defensive identity is the same as ours.

MU82

Quote from: Elonsmusk on November 09, 2025, 04:38:36 PMIf you don't understand the way the game was called today was a big reason why we gave up 100+, I don't know what to tell you.

Doesn't matter that we shot a ton of FTs. MU's defense is predicated on heating the ball handler up and playing physically. It couldn't do that today. Neither could Indiana..I just doubt IU's defensive identity is the same as ours.

C'mon, man.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Elonsmusk

Quote from: MU82 on November 09, 2025, 04:41:47 PMC'mon, man.

Perfect example of my point was when MU cut the lead down to 10 or 12 in the second half - Nigel James pretty much took the ball away from IU guard in the backcourt right in front of Shaka.  Whistle. Crean thought the foul was called on the IU player as Nigel was attempting to take it the other way.  Never should have been a whistle on Nigel. 

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: Elonsmusk on November 09, 2025, 04:53:14 PMPerfect example of my point was when MU cut the lead down to 10 or 12 in the second half - Nigel James pretty much took the ball away from IU guard in the backcourt right in front of Shaka.  Whistle. Crean thought the foul was called on the IU player as Nigel was attempting to take it the other way.  Never should have been a whistle on Nigel. 


I know the exact play you are talking about. Nigel stepped out of bounds.

The officials were equally bad both ways. We lost because we stink on defense. We will get better, but we sucked.

A humbling experience that could be a fun look back if we build off of it.
VIOLENCE!

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