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Juan Anderson's Mixtape

Thanks for the memories, Giannis.

GB Warrior

Quote from: Dish on June 22, 2026, 11:01:48 PMThe Giannis return is...fine?

Gotta hope those 2031/2033 picks turn into something (either from Miami sucking, or trading them elsewhere)


It's fine. And fine is all they were going to get after running it back last year. There are some decent young swings in there. Since the Bucks don't own their pick, they really should unload Herro, Turner and Kuz and get any and all future assets. Tanking does not hurt them in the slightest as there is no harm to being bottom 3 with young players getting ample time to develop.

I would feel better if Horst didn't draft like Jimmy Haslam and the bucks also did not also have Jimmy Haslam

Shaka Shart

Quote from: GB Warrior on Today at 12:34:23 AMIt's fine. And fine is all they were going to get after running it back last year. There are some decent young swings in there. Since the Bucks don't own their pick, they really should unload Herro, Turner and Kuz and get any and all future assets. Tanking does not hurt them in the slightest as there is no harm to being bottom 3 with young players getting ample time to develop.

I would feel better if Horst didn't draft like Jimmy Haslam and the bucks also did not also have Jimmy Haslam

Kuz can guard 1-5
#BanGBWarrior

The Sultan

Giannis just wasn't as valuable on the market as people thought because you just have to decimate your roster in the process.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Uncle Rico

There is a parade in Mequon today at noon to celebrate the trade that brought a local white boy home and got rid of the foreigner
It's only a few pennies

Pakuni

Quote from: Uncle Rico on Today at 07:11:02 AMThere is a parade in Mequon today at noon to celebrate the trade that brought a local white boy home and got rid of the foreigner

I was going to say, a one-day reprieve for the dentists would be worth it. The takes would be scintillating.

MuggsyB

I guess that's the best the Bucks could get.  You do wonder if they could have flipped Jaylen Browm for better overall assets.  That said, this is why they waited too long to trade Giannis.  The draft tonight is absolutely gargantuan for the Bucks moving forward. 

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: Uncle Rico on Today at 07:11:02 AMThere is a parade in Mequon today at noon to celebrate the trade that brought a local white boy home and got rid of the foreigner

East Troy is shutting down for a parade
"The greatest economy in the history of the world is on the horizon."

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 08:02:25 AMI guess that's the best the Bucks could get.  You do wonder if they could have flipped Jaylen Browm for better overall assets.  That said, this is why they waited too long to trade Giannis.  The draft tonight is absolutely gargantuan for the Bucks moving forward. 

Jon Horst draft record has Bucks fans feeling quite confident.
It's only a few pennies

JWags85

Quote from: GB Warrior on Today at 12:34:23 AMIt's fine. And fine is all they were going to get after running it back last year. There are some decent young swings in there. Since the Bucks don't own their pick, they really should unload Herro, Turner and Kuz and get any and all future assets. Tanking does not hurt them in the slightest as there is no harm to being bottom 3 with young players getting ample time to develop.

Quote from: The Sultan on Today at 04:24:32 AMGiannis just wasn't as valuable on the market as people thought because you just have to decimate your roster in the process.

That's the nature of all the superstar NBA trades in the last decade plus.  With the huge cap hits, the return is never star power laden. The best you can hope for is assets, whether young players on cheap deals with potential or picks.  And I think they did that here. Even not thinking of trading anyone away yet

Herro is controversial, so I won't even mention him.  Jacquez is a solid player, good defender.  Ware was second team All-Rookie and improved in year 2, very good defender for a young player. Jakucionis has a very high ceiling and the Heat really didn't want to give him up.  And then you get another lottery pick.

For a team that was in purgatory despite having a top 5 NBA talent, I find it hard to say that they are not in a better/much more workable position for the future, even if next year is a wash, tank or not.

Jockey

There is no upside to keeping Herro. It will be interesting to see what they get for him.

Shaka Shart

Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on Today at 08:03:24 AMEast Troy is shutting down for a parade

That's doxxing you SOB
#BanGBWarrior

Jockey

Hoping for Johnson or Steinbach with #10.

The Sultan

Quote from: JWags85 on Today at 09:25:46 AMThat's the nature of all the superstar NBA trades in the last decade plus.  With the huge cap hits, the return is never star power laden. The best you can hope for is assets, whether young players on cheap deals with potential or picks.  And I think they did that here. Even not thinking of trading anyone away yet

Herro is controversial, so I won't even mention him.  Jacquez is a solid player, good defender.  Ware was second team All-Rookie and improved in year 2, very good defender for a young player. Jakucionis has a very high ceiling and the Heat really didn't want to give him up.  And then you get another lottery pick.

For a team that was in purgatory despite having a top 5 NBA talent, I find it hard to say that they are not in a better/much more workable position for the future, even if next year is a wash, tank or not.



The only concern I have is that outside of 2026, all of those picks are five plus years out. There is really no way to determine now how valuable they are.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

GB Warrior

Quote from: JWags85 on Today at 09:25:46 AMThat's the nature of all the superstar NBA trades in the last decade plus.  With the huge cap hits, the return is never star power laden. The best you can hope for is assets, whether young players on cheap deals with potential or picks.  And I think they did that here. Even not thinking of trading anyone away yet

Herro is controversial, so I won't even mention him.  Jacquez is a solid player, good defender.  Ware was second team All-Rookie and improved in year 2, very good defender for a young player. Jakucionis has a very high ceiling and the Heat really didn't want to give him up.  And then you get another lottery pick.

For a team that was in purgatory despite having a top 5 NBA talent, I find it hard to say that they are not in a better/much more workable position for the future, even if next year is a wash, tank or not.


It was the right thing to do. They have a plan. Whether it works, we'll see. I didn't have any problem with the plans around Giannis until the Turner move. The Dame move just did not work due to a confluence of bad luck, but I have a hard time arguing that it wasn't the right move at the time.

cheebs09

Bucks should trade for Kolek.

MU82

#1416
Interesting pre-draft stuff. In addition to the Bucks sending Giannis to Miami, the Timberwolves pretty much gave away Randle to avoid apron hell, and the Bulls ended up with an interesting piece in Claxton.
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Juan Anderson's Mixtape

Quote from: The Sultan on Today at 10:37:13 AMThe only concern I have is that outside of 2026, all of those picks are five plus years out. There is really no way to determine now how valuable they are.

That's why the young talent was so important in this trade.  Ware, Kasparas J, and the #13 pick in a strong draft are the young, upside bets with near term value.

JWags85

Quote from: Jockey on Today at 10:21:06 AMHoping for Johnson or Steinbach with #10.

I actually REALLY like Ament.  He's an athletic freak and has the potential to develop into an upper 30s percentage shooter from outside.  He's my preferred pick at 10, assuming they don't trade up for Acuff (which they obviously won't, but I can dream.)

Steinbach, if they could get him at 13, would be a great compliment.  Ament is a huge athletic wing/big and Steinbach is more of a inside dirty work Domantas Sabonis style big.

Lineups of Ament/Steinbach/Ware at the 3-4-5 would be wild.

Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on Today at 11:33:08 AMThat's why the young talent was so important in this trade.  Ware, Kasparas J, and the #13 pick in a strong draft are the young, upside bets with near term value.

Yep, honestly would hope they will be using those picks as ammunition for future trades more than something to hold onto for a rebuild.  Package them to get someone to take Turner  ;D

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: Shaka Shart on Today at 09:51:14 AMThat's doxxing you SOB

REDACTED Troy is shutting down for a parade



Fixed it
"The greatest economy in the history of the world is on the horizon."

Pakuni

Quote from: JWags85 on Today at 12:01:43 PMI actually REALLY like Ament.  He's an athletic freak and has the potential to develop into an upper 30s percentage shooter from outside.  He's my preferred pick at 10, assuming they don't trade up for Acuff (which they obviously won't, but I can dream.)

Not a Bucks fan, so I don't have to worry about it, but Ament scares the crap out of me as a prospect. Big upside, but there's a ton of projection involved and all sorts of ways it can go wrong for him. It wouldn't be a total shock if he's an all-star one day, but I also wouldn't be shocked if he's a role player in five years.

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