Syria = Impending S-Show

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Gotta love it when supposedly smart people here on Scoop try to reason with Muggsy.

#giveitarest

I'm not reasoning with Muggsy, that would be foolhardy.

But he trotted out a line that's been successfully used to try to minimize what's happening in Gaza. I'm providing a response to a specific piece of misinformation so reasonable people who see it aren't misled.

[Uncle Rico]

Gotta love it when supposedly smart people here on Scoop try to reason with Muggsy.

#giveitarest

As a fellow five pointer, I speak Muggsy

[Shaka Shart]

I'm not reasoning with Muggsy, that would be foolhardy.

But he trotted out a line that's been successfully used to try to minimize what's happening in Gaza. I'm providing a response to a specific piece of misinformation so reasonable people who see it aren't misled.

This, you can't reason with stupid most of the time but I think this discussion as a whole besides the yahoo comment section that is Muggs has been pretty good at laying out the crisis, who and why it is happening, and the pure tragedy of it all.

Speaks well to most here that there are points I disagree with but I can at least get to a spot of "I can understand why you think that way about this". Outlining detailed lines of thinking on this is important to developing the empathy I keep harping on that many in the world too much lack.

[Jockey]

I'm not reasoning with Muggsy, that would be foolhardy.

But he trotted out a line that's been successfully used to try to minimize what's happening in Gaza. I'm providing a response to a specific piece of misinformation so reasonable people who see it aren't misled.

Wow. That's really super- duper noble. Helping save the ignorant.  Basically you are saying that Scoopers are ignorant and NEED your mansplaining.

[Uncle Rico]

Wow. That's really super- duper noble. Helping save the ignorant.  Basically you are saying that Scoopers are ignorant and NEED your mansplaining.

Well...

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

That's a... take. I don't know about saving the ignorant or people needing anything.  I do know that I have fallen for misnformation before. Hell, I fell for a short quote and posted about it here on Scoop and 4ever of all people corrected me. Maybe that means I'm ignorant.

[tower912]

Gotta love it when supposedly smart people here on Scoop try to reason with Muggsy.

#giveitarest

I am exercising my mod-given right to take a month long vacation from him.  I will check in on him in September.

[Hards Alumni]

Jockey is jokin

[The Sultan]

I really would like to hear more details about what the prof proposed please, if you can recall them. I am not being sarcastic. I am, and have long been, in the camp that proposed "solutions" to not just Gaza but countless other wars and conflicts are immensely difficult and require a knowledge of history.

There have been some thoughtful responses by scoopers here, including opposing ones. Simplistic solutions are always available from our resident simpleton.

So the theory is that if both Israel and Palestinian leadership would have allowed it, that the creation of Palestinian autonomous areas within Israel would have been beneficial for everyone. Was it too pie in the sky? Maybe, but I do think it places the blame on where it should be.

Anyway...still can't remember the name of the prof.

[Jockey]

That's a... take. I don't know about saving the ignorant or people needing anything.  I do know that I have fallen for misnformation before. Hell, I fell for a short quote and posted about it here on Scoop and 4ever of all people corrected me. Maybe that means I'm ignorant.

Well, I do know that people love being corrected - so good luck

[Scoop Snoop]

So the theory is that if both Israel and Palestinian leadership would have allowed it, that the creation of Palestinian autonomous areas within Israel would have been beneficial for everyone. Was it too pie in the sky? Maybe, but I do think it places the blame on where it should be.

Anyway...still can't remember the name of the prof.

Thanks. Interesting, ballsy and requiring a willingness to risk failure with a chance at the payoff being that it just might have worked.

I am not surprised at Muggsy's references to post WWII scenarios but did not expect other scoopers to draw WWII analogies to Gaza. Germany's and Japan's massive, conventional militaries, extensive industrial, economic and political infrastructure prewar were radically different, as were the post war scenarios. Hamas is basically an urban guerilla organization, and that is not only a completely different scenario, but an extremely dangerous one to deal with.   

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I don't think anyone likes being corrected,  but I do think reasonable people appreciate it,  as long as its done respectfully.

Getting called out by 4Ever was embarrassing.  But he was right so I appreciated it.

[Hards Alumni]

Well, I do know that people love being corrected - so good luck

Whether or not they enjoy it is irrelevant.

[Uncle Rico]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/07/palestinian-pele-suleiman-al-obeid-football-player-killed-gaza-israeli-attack

Another victim of Netanyahu war crimes

[The Sultan]

Well, if he voted for Hamas in 2006, what did he think was going to happen 19 years later?

[MuggsyB]

Yeah, as mentioned, you're intent on being ignorant.  Better to sit down if you don't want to participate like an adult.

All of you are in the wrong side.  And get facts from people severely biased against Israel.  The UN is essentially a puppet for Iran/Hamas and has been for many, many, many, years. 

[The Sultan]

All of you are in the wrong side.  And get facts from people severely biased against Israel.  The UN is essentially a puppet for Iran/Hamas and has been for many, many, many, years. 

There are no good "sides" here. Stop treating war like a sporting event.

[MuggsyB]

They didn't retract. They added more context about a pre-existing health condition... which doesn't change the fact that the child was starving.

If you don't trust the NYT heres a list of over 100 charitable and human rights orgs that have concluded that there is mass starvation in Gaza, including some Jewish and Israeli groups:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/more-than-100-aid-groups-sign-open-letter-warning-of-starvation-in-gaza

They're anti-Israel as is most of the world. And this obsession with "genocide" and "war crimes" is a total joke. Accusing Israel of genocide actually foments antisemitism.  It's especially egregious considering the history of the Jewish people. This is a war, they were attacked.  Has there ever been a war when war crimes didn't occur from individuals?  This happens in every war situation throughout history.  At least 1% of all people are sociopaths.  The idea that Israel is "committing genocide", and you and others believe this is the case, is flat out embarrassing.  They're not.  If they wanted to they could slaughter every civilian in Gaza. 

[The Sultan]

They're anti-Israel as is most of the world. And this obsession with "genocide" and "war crimes" is a total joke. Accusing Israel of genocide actually foments antisemitism.  It's especially egregious considering the history of the Jewish people. This is a war, they were attacked.  Has there ever been a war when war crimes didn't occur from individuals?  This happens in every war situation throughout history.  At least 1% of all people are sociopaths.  The idea that Israel is "committing genocide", and you and others believe this is the case, is flat out embarrassing.  They're not.  If they wanted to they could slaughter every civilian in Gaza. 

You should never post again here about human suffering or animal abuse. Because when actual suffering happens, you simply don't care, and make as many excuses for those perpetuating the suffering as possible.

You're calling everyone else here hypocrites, but it's painfully obvious the biggest hypocrite here is you. 

And yes TAMU, stop being obsessed about silly little things like war crimes and genocide. 🙄🙄🙄

[Uncle Rico]

They're anti-Israel as is most of the world. And this obsession with "genocide" and "war crimes" is a total joke. Accusing Israel of genocide actually foments antisemitism.  It's especially egregious considering the history of the Jewish people. This is a war, they were attacked.  Has there ever been a war when war crimes didn't occur from individuals?  This happens in every war situation throughout history.  At least 1% of all people are sociopaths.  The idea that Israel is "committing genocide", and you and others believe this is the case, is flat out embarrassing.  They're not.  If they wanted to they could slaughter every civilian in Gaza. 

They should quit committing war crimes then

[Scoop Snoop]

Muggsy's total lack of self-awareness is on full display in his latest posts. "All of you are on the wrong side." Early in this thread, he posted "As usual, all of you all missed the point "even though he never made one.   When I asked him what the probability was that he was right and everyone else is wrong, he replied 98%.

Then there are references to obsession(s), psychopaths, living in La La land among many other Muggsyisms. His MO is on full display-projection of his head problems onto everyone else. He has not begun with "If I was in charge..." for quite a while, but people who "think" just like Muggsy are in charge and they alone decide what reality and immutable facts are.

Why he subjects himself to non-stop solid rebuttals and ridicule is not clear. But then again, neither is his twisted little mind.

[The Sultan]

Muggsy's total lack of self-awareness is on full display in his latest posts. "All of you are on the wrong side." Early in this thread, he posted "As usual, all of you all missed the point "even though he never made one.   When I asked him what the probability was that he was right and everyone else is wrong, he replied 98%.

Then there are references to obsession(s), psychopaths, living in La La land among many other Muggsyisms. His MO is on full display-projection of his head problems onto everyone else. He has not begun with "If I was in charge..." for quite a while, but people who "think" just like Muggsy are in charge and they alone decide what reality and immutable facts are.

Why he subjects himself to non-stop solid rebuttals and ridicule is not clear. But then again, neither is his twisted little mind.

Because he righteously believes he is right and will accept no evidence to suggest otherwise. He also lives in a world where no shades of gray exist, even though the world simply isn't black and white. 

[Uncle Rico]

Because he righteously believes he is right and will accept no evidence to suggest otherwise. He also lives in a world where no shades of gray exist, even though the world simply isn't black and white. 

His lack of outrage over Ukraine's refusal to come to heel is telling

[MU82]

His lack of outrage over Ukraine's refusal to come to heel is telling

Speaking of which ... how about peace "negotiations" in which one of the two sides is being excluded from the negotiations?

"Give Russia the land it stole in the criminal war that its dirtbag dictator launched" doesn't seem like much of a negotiation.

[Uncle Rico]

Speaking of which ... how about peace "negotiations" in which one of the two sides is being excluded from the negotiations?

"Give Russia the land it stole in the criminal war that its dirtbag dictator launched" doesn't seem like much of a negotiation.

People forget Russia gave us the planes we used at Lexington