NY Times: Colleges Know How Much You're willing to pay. Here's How.

[Porky's Butthole]

Having just gone through the process, Porky found this NY Times article, published on 5/1 (Decision Day) fascinating, but unfortunately not surprising.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/01/business/college-tuition-price-consultants.html?searchResultPosition=1

[Scoop Snoop]

Tell us which school Piglet chose. I'm happy for him no matter what school it is.

[The Sultan]

Yep. This article is very well done...and accurate. I am sure that Marquette uses either RNL or EAB, if not both.

[WarriorFan]

What I'm willing to pay for the New York Times is Zero.
Anyone care to paste the article?

[Uncle Rico]

What I'm willing to pay for the New York Times is Zero.
Anyone care to paste the article?

No

[dgies9156]

Brother Porky:

The minute a family fills out a FAFSA, colleges and tuition folks know everything about you. Period. When my daughter was accepted, I thought, "what the hell, I'll fill it out. You never know!"

What the university and the FAFSA people said I could afford for college bore absolutely no relationship to what I could actually pay to send my children to school. What they said I could afford was far higher than the all-in cost of my daughter's college and would have required my wife, son, and I to live under a bridge of the Kennedy Expressway.

When my son went to college, I was used to fill out the FAFSA again. I simply said, "no way... we are not getting anything anyway, so what's the point?"

[MU82]

What I'm willing to pay for the New York Times is Zero.
Anyone care to paste the article?

If you don't buy your kid 500 pencils and 37 dolls, you can afford to read award-winning journalism.

[muwarrior69]

Brother Porky:

The minute a family fills out a FAFSA, colleges and tuition folks know everything about you. Period. When my daughter was accepted, I thought, "what the hell, I'll fill it out. You never know!"

What the university and the FAFSA people said I could afford for college bore absolutely no relationship to what I could actually pay to send my children to school. What they said I could afford was far higher than the all-in cost of my daughter's college and would have required my wife, son, and I to live under a bridge of the Kennedy Expressway.

When my son went to college, I was used to fill out the FAFSA again. I simply said, "no way... we are not getting anything anyway, so what's the point?"

Here in New Jersey many of our 4 years institutions (even Princeton) will accept 2 or even 3 years of course work from our community colleges. The average tuition for our community colleges is about 15K per year. Depending on the course of study and the 4 year institution you choose you can get a BA/BS degree for under a 100k and no more than 250K even if you attend Princeton for 2 years. There are ways to get an affordable college education without going into high debt and paying high tuition costs at 4 year schools.

If our 4 year institutions were the lenders of student debt I would bet the cost of education would be considerably lower, but since they are not the sky is the limit.

[MU82]

Here in New Jersey many of our 4 years institutions (even Princeton) will accept 2 or even 3 years of course work from our community colleges. The average tuition for our community colleges is about 15K per year. Depending on the course of study and the 4 year institution you choose you can get a BA/BS degree for under a 100k and no more than 250K even if you attend Princeton for 2 years. There are ways to get an affordable college education without going into high debt and paying high tuition costs at 4 year schools.

If our 4 year institutions were the lenders of student debt I would bet the cost of education would be considerably lower, but since they are not the sky is the limit.

Princeton provides free education - including tuition and room/board - for students from families with annual incomes of $100K or less.

They have joined numerous Ivy League and other top universities in this practice, with some (including Harvard) offering free tuition to those from families earning $200K or less.

[muwarrior69]

Princeton provides free education - including tuition and room/board - for students from families with annual incomes of $100K or less.

They have joined numerous Ivy League and other top universities in this practice, with some (including Harvard) offering free tuition to those from families earning $200K or less.

I stand corrected. However, going forward it look like most will attend Princeton free of charge. Perhaps my granddaughter will be accepted in 2029 and sadly a hell of a lot cheaper than Marquette. If not, there is the community college route.

https://profile.princeton.edu/numbers

[MU82]

I wish the Ivies had something similar going back when I was applying for college.

Would have been nice to get rejected by schools I could have afforded!

[muwarrior69]

I wish the Ivies had something similar going back when I was applying for college.

Would have been nice to get rejected by schools I could have afforded!

My working-class parents could afford Marquette paying full sticker price when I attended. Not today. I would have gone to Rutgers only two miles from home otherwise which was 20 percent less not counting R&B. A lot more of us were getting accepted than rejected from places we could afford without grants and partial scholarships which is better than getting accepted to a school you can't afford offering degrees that have lost their value in the marketplace.

[MU82]

My working-class parents could afford Marquette paying full sticker price when I attended. Not today. I would have gone to Rutgers only two miles from home otherwise which was 20 percent less not counting R&B. A lot more of us were getting accepted than rejected from places we could afford without grants and partial scholarships which is better than getting accepted to a school you can't afford offering degrees that have lost their value in the marketplace.

Bonus: You weren't distracted by screens, because there were no computers or cellphones, and there were only a few TV channels. Plus, you got to enjoy turning the news on the radio and hearing about all the poor, young, American men dying in Vietnam. Good times!

[tower912]

The world has changed in the 50 years your generation has been in charge.

[Shaka Shart]

The world has changed in the 50 years your generation has been in charge.

now a summer job pays for the student activity fee

[muwarrior69]

Bonus: You weren't distracted by screens, because there were no computers or cellphones, and there were only a few TV channels. Plus, you got to enjoy turning the news on the radio and hearing about all the poor, young, American men dying in Vietnam. Good times!

Now young Americans are dying from Fentanyl, not good times.

[Uncle Rico]

Now young Americans are dying from Fentanyl, not good times.

That, alone, is why we have to bring the 50's back

[The Sultan]

Now young Americans are dying from Fentanyl, not good times.

JFC.

[muwarrior69]

The world has changed in the 50 years your generation has been in charge.

I would not call Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush 41 or Obama my generation. As for Clinton, Bush 43, Biden and Trump I would agree. One's outlook depends on their political lens if we're better or worse over those 50 years.

[muwarrior69]

That, alone, is why we have to bring the 50's back

No, it is not, but an affordable college education would be.

[muwarrior69]

JFC.

Hit a nerve there?

[The Sultan]

Hit a nerve there?

No. You're just full of basic and dumb talking points.

[Uncle Rico]

No, it is not, but an affordable college education would be.

Have I got some news for you about that

[ATL MU Warrior]

One's outlook depends on their political lens if we're better or worse over those 50 years.

No it doesn't. Or it shouldn't, if you have a brain.

[muwarrior69]

No. You're just full of basic and dumb talking points.

That Marquette's tuition and R&B costs are more than twice the inflation rate is a dumb talking point? Your right it is a dumb talking point; it is a sad talking point.