NIL Money

[Scoop Snoop]

While I'm not sure it's true, this is why I become frustrated with people b1tching about Shaka and the portal. 

Especially scoopers who want 4 bangers added to this coming season's team.

[Markusquette]

Especially scoopers who want 4 bangers added to this coming season's team.

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[#UnleashSean]

While I'm not sure it's true, this is why I become frustrated with people b1tching about Shaka and the portal. 

From everything that is going on in the college world, it's quite possible this is true.

[muwarrior69]

First, Curt Flood did not win his case. He lost because baseball has a legal antitrust exemption. Second, the Flood case happened long after Koufax and Drysdale were retired. Mr. Flood's litigation was initiated in late 1969, after he had been traded to Philadelphia. Mr. Koufax retired after the 1966 season and Mr. Drysdale after 1968.

Thirdly, as Brother MU notes, Meessrs. Koufax and Drysdale certainly cared about money. Their joint holdout against Walter O'Malley, aka, Whalebelly, who then owned the Dodgers, was a legendary moment in baseball. Both were attractive to Hollywood and were jointly pursuing acting gigs when ole Whalebelly came to his senses.

The Dodgers won the World Series in 1965. They never would have even sniffed a pennant race without Koufax and Drysdale.

The Koufax/Drysdale joint holdout scared the owners almost as much as Ted Simmons, Andy Messersmith and Dave McNally did. The owners realized the potential power of joint action by the star players against the team. Marvin Miller and the MLBPA also noticed the potential! It was the beginning of the end of the reserve clause.

Sure, who does not care about money especially when after your efforts won your organization a championship. If it was all about the money I don't think they would have signed four baseballs for free to two strangers, unlike athletes today

[The Sultan]

Sure, who does not care about money especially when after your efforts won your organization a championship. If it was all about the money I don't think they would have signed four baseballs for free to two strangers, unlike athletes today

Let's not paint with too broad a brush here.

[muwarrior69]

Let's not paint with too broad a brush here.

OK, famous athletes today.

[Uncle Rico]

OK, famous athletes today.

Plenty of athletes sign like players of yore used to

[MU82]

Sure, who does not care about money especially when after your efforts won your organization a championship. If it was all about the money I don't think they would have signed four baseballs for free to two strangers, unlike athletes today

That's dopey.

I was at a Giants spring training game last year, and some of the players signed for 15-20 minutes, including many of their top guys. Some athletes don't sign autographs but give hours of their time and/or millions of dollars to charities. My wife was an RN at the Charlotte children's hospital and used to tell me every time Panthers and Hornets players visited - and it was often, and it included many of the stars. (Newton, McCaffrey, Stewart, Thompson, Kuechly, Davis, Olsen, Kemba, Biyombo, Zeller and a few others were especially generous with their time.) That means a lot more to those families than a freakin' autograph.

Billy Martin got into fist fights with fans, which obviously "proves" that players back then cared more about money than today's players do, right?

Look, you made a claim about Drysdale and Koufax and were proven wrong by multiple Scoopers. Just admit it and move on without trashing all of today's athletes as bad people.

[MuggsyB]

Especially scoopers who want 4 bangers added to this coming season's team.

Stop propagating a false narrative.  I never stated "4 bangers"  Cut the complete nonsense. 

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Sure, who does not care about money especially when after your efforts won your organization a championship. If it was all about the money I don't think they would have signed four baseballs for free to two strangers, unlike athletes today

Unlike athletes today? Do you think most of today's athletes won't occasionally sign things for free?

[Galway Eagle]

Stop propagating a false narrative.  I never stated "4 bangers"  Cut the complete nonsense. 

It's just alternative facts not a false narrative.

[#UnleashSean]

It's just alternative facts not a false narrative.

I'm going to have to start using the alternative facts dialougue when certain family members say "maybe it's just your news channel" when we talk about the deportation of US citizens that they deny. Lol

[speri]

I don't know anything about Marquette's NIL situation, but what does the board think about funding a majority of the NIL money to a pass first 5* PG year in and years out?

Once everyone knows Marquette as a school which always has a great PG, the 3* and 4* wings and bigs may want to play with the 5* PG to have a better shot at getting drafted.

IDK just seems like a good stretegy if you are limited on funds. Interested to know the board's thoughts.

[MuMark]

I don't know anything about Marquette's NIL situation, but what does the board think about funding a majority of the NIL money to a pass first 5* PG year in and years out?

Once everyone knows Marquette as a school which always has a great PG, the 3* and 4* wings and bigs may want to play with the 5* PG to have a better shot at getting drafted.

IDK just seems like a good stretegy if you are limited on funds. Interested to know the board's thoughts.

I'd rather keep our structure and recruit a 4 star pass first pg like Nigel James.........We are already getting good 3-4 star wings.

Having most of the money go to one player( especially a freshman) seems like a recipe for chemistry issues.

[tower912]

5 star PGs are rarely truly pass first.  Most get in the lane like Sean, pass like TKo and shoot like Markus.  And then, after a season, they are gone.

[The Sultan]

Oh God. "Pass first point guard" time.

[muwarrior69]

Unlike athletes today? Do you think most of today's athletes won't occasionally sign things for free?

"Things" perhaps like a card, but not baseballs.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

"Things" perhaps like a card, but not baseballs.

I have a couple of signed baseballs that say otherwise

[Pakuni]

"Things" perhaps like a card, but not baseballs.

Many players won't sign balls for adults because they know there's a good chance it'll sooner or later - often sooner - wind up on eBay or some other auction site. Good for them, I say.

[Uncle Rico]

"Things" perhaps like a card, but not baseballs.

This is patently false

[MU82]

"Things" perhaps like a card, but not baseballs.

1. You're wrong.

2. Even if you were right (which you're not) ... so what? Do you honestly judge whether an athlete is a good person or bad person or "money-first" person based on whether he or she signs a lot of autographs?

Aaron Hernandez signed lots of autographs.

(Actually, I have no idea if that's true, but since when do facts matter?)

[willie warrior]

5 star PGs are rarely truly pass first.  Most get in the lane like Sean, pass like TKo and shoot like Markus.  And then, after a season, they are gone.

Hardly anybody passes like Kolek

[Hards Alumni]

Rob Dauster from F of 68 made a comment that Tech Tex is "paying J.T. Toppin more than Marquette's entire NIL payroll."

Now, I have no idea if this is true, but it's worth discussing.  What I do know is clearly teams (like Whisky) are just opening up a check book and giving kids bags of cash. 

The internet guys LOVE to say stuff like this because they know Marquette's fan base is rabid and it drives engagement.  Which is what they need to get clicks and likes, and drive the sponsorships to them. 

[tower912]

Apparently, there is a $10 million club.  Big names, big schools.  One big east rival.   Another being in the $8 million club.  And if you don't have $4 million for 25-26 you are underfunded.   Per Norlander at cbssports. 

[MU1in77]

A few weeks ago the Milwaukee JS online had an article that UWM was trying to double their NIL fund to $200,000. In todays college basketball world what would that buy?