2025 Transfer Portal

[MU82]

Once upon a time, growth and development was the norm.  MU fans were driven crazy by Bo being so good at it up the road.  MU has been spoiled only starting 8 players over the last three seasons.  Shaka has chosen to stay old school, which feels subversive, instead of getting in a bidding wars for a MAC or Horizon league guard. 

I am more optimistic about it than most. 
1.  The 6th year guys are gone.
2.  There simply aren't that many portal guys that MU could afford who are better than what is already at MU.
3.  I am genuinely enthused about Ben, Royce, DO, Chase, and Zaide. 
4.  There are questions about Caedin, Josh, Tre, and Sean's knee.  But there are also reasons for optimism.
5.  Shaka et al have a history of developing players.  As well as the fact that most players get better.  So, based on that, they are all going to be somewhat better.  The question is how much better and how soon.

For the first time since Shaka's first season, there are unknowns and likely competition for starting spots and other roles.  Cool.  Sounds like fun.

Well said.

I'd be happy to add a transfer if Shaka found one who's both a good fit and a good value, but I prefer what we have to the likes of Mahaney or Storr (or similar). Like you, I expect several of our players to get better, perhaps even much better.

Will that be good enough? We'll see!

[bilsu]

jfp, degenerative usually means a wearing out, as something degenerates, as in degenerative arthritis (osteoarthritis). ACL injuries tend to happen to young, active athletes. Rehab from such an injury can lead to performance not characteristic of degenerates, but of otherwise healthy young athletes. Don't write Sean off, there are too many success stories of athletes who have recovered from such injuries.

I think you have to take into account what type of player an injured player is. Sean is small and relied on speed the ability to change directions. His game is dependent on having a sound knee.

[wadesworld]

I think you have to take into account what type of player an injured player is. Sean is small and relied on speed the ability to change directions. His game is dependent on having a sound knee.

So was Adrian Peterson's.  Adrian Peterson returned 8  months after tearing his ACL and rushed for just 2,097 yards.

Modern medicine is amazing.  Players can recover from a torn up knee.  I'll go ahead and say Sean's speed and explosiveness will not be his issue.

[GoldenEagles03]

So was Adrian Peterson's.  Adrian Peterson returned 8  months after tearing his ACL and rushed for just 2,097 yards.

Modern medicine is amazing.  Players can recover from a torn up knee.  I'll go ahead and say Sean's speed and explosiveness will not be his issue.

Exactly. His knee has been sound for a while. It will be 20 months from the injury when he likely starts for Marquette next season.

https://x.com/Aries_Sherrie/status/1885032361126982094?t=bl6zTkNo5L0RD_FLFWdOWg&s=19

[Uncle Rico]

Does he even have two knees anymore?  Doubtful

[MU82]

I think you have to take into account what type of player an injured player is. Sean is small and relied on speed the ability to change directions. His game is dependent on having a sound knee.

Hundreds of examples of great athletes in a variety of sports returning successfully from this kind of injury. Skiers, tennis players, football players, basketball players, volleyball players and others that put significant torque on their legs. Adrian Peterson, as mentioned, is a great example.

It's not the 1960s, and this isn't what Gale Sayers had to endure.

Nobody here knows for certain that Sean will have 100% of his quickness and explosiveness back. But nobody here knows that he won't.

What we all do know (or should) is that Shaka has seen Sean almost every day in the gym, and he seems pretty convinced that Sean will be fit next season.

[MuMark]

https://x.com/travisbranham_/status/1914372299719106828?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw

[MU82]

https://x.com/travisbranham_/status/1914372299719106828?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw

Hard pass, even if Epps offers to pay NIL to Marquette.

[MuMark]

Hard pass, even if Epps offers to pay NIL to Marquette.

I wasn't posting about Marquette pursuing him.....I don't think we will pursue anyone .........only mention it because it's a conference foe losing a significant starter.

[MU82]

I wasn't posting about Marquette pursuing him.....I don't think we will pursue anyone .........only mention it because it's a conference foe losing a significant starter.

I figured as much. Still just my way of opining, "Yuck!"

[tower912]

No!  He is in the portal!  Therefore Shaka is failing by not landing him!

[MuMark]

Portal filling up today with guys who have already played 4 or 5 years of college ball already.

Latest.....old friend Dawson Garcia

[CountryRoads]

Latest.....old friend Dawson Garcia

Lmao

Honestly kind of sad to watch some of this. Pretty glad our guys all were at peace with their college career ending and didn't try to pull any of this nonsense. If these players want more eligibility, I don't know what entering the portal does or how that makes their case better.

[tower912]

Portal filling up today with guys who have already played 4 or 5 years of college ball already.

Latest.....old friend Dawson Garcia

So, what is his market value?  And he is an experienced big.  How much would MU fans pay for him to finish his career at MU?

He has played 5 years.   From what I read  he may petition for an extra season due to the season he left UNC.

[panda2.0]

So was Adrian Peterson's.  Adrian Peterson returned 8  months after tearing his ACL and rushed for just 2,097 yards.

Modern medicine is amazing.  Players can recover from a torn up knee.  I'll go ahead and say Sean's speed and explosiveness will not be his issue.

AP is an outlier. ACL injuries usually take 18 months for return to high level activity. Expecting the same production in the first six months of the return is naive for many reasons.

[panda2.0]

AP is an outlier. ACL injuries usually take 18 months for return to high level activity. Expecting the same production in the first six months of the return is naive for many reasons.

I thought it was funny when everyone was going nuts when Aaron rodgers was throwing a football and was "ahead of schedule."

Exactly. His knee has been sound for a while. It will be 20 months from the injury when he likely starts for Marquette next season.

https://x.com/Aries_Sherrie/status/1885032361126982094?t=bl6zTkNo5L0RD_FLFWdOWg&s=19

Many casuals were lauding Aaron rodgers for being "ahead of schedule" while he was throwing a football and moving laterally during pre game very early on in his rehab. There is no correlation to his injury and throwing a football much like there is no correlation to progress seeing Sean move around in pre game warmups 12 months post surgery. The real test is quick lateral movement, start/stop etc.

[wadesworld]

I thought it was funny when everyone was going nuts when Aaron rodgers was throwing a football and was "ahead of schedule."

Many casuals were lauding Aaron rodgers for being "ahead of schedule" while he was throwing a football and moving laterally during pre game very early on in his rehab. There is no correlation to his injury and throwing a football much like there is no correlation to progress seeing Sean move around in pre game warmups 12 months post surgery. The real test is quick lateral movement, start/stop etc.

Good thing he'll be nearly 2 years removed from the injury. And that his injury isn't even the same body part that Aaron Rodgers's was. And that he's half Aaron's age.

[The Sultan]

AP is an outlier. ACL injuries usually take 18 months for return to high level activity. Expecting the same production in the first six months of the return is naive for many reasons.

He will be 20+ months removed from the injury when the season starts.

[MUDPT]

AP is an outlier. ACL injuries usually take 18 months for return to high level activity. Expecting the same production in the first six months of the return is naive for many reasons.

Source for 18 months? 20 years ago, I saw kids cleared in about 6. Now, standard is 12 months, just to let the ligament get stronger. Biggest hurdle at this point will be mental.

[The Sultan]

Source for 18 months?

History tells us that panda doesn't have the best sources.

[Nukem2]

Source for 18 months? 20 years ago, I saw kids cleared in about 6. Now, standard is 12 months, just to let the ligament get stronger. Biggest hurdle at this point will be mental.

Panda may not have great sources, but he did qualify by speaking about being productive at a high level. Not many athletes who come back in say 6-12 months play at a high level compared to past performance. I. any event, it's all rather subjective.

[panda2.0]

Source for 18 months? 20 years ago, I saw kids cleared in about 6. Now, standard is 12 months, just to let the ligament get stronger. Biggest hurdle at this point will be mental.

12 months for return to activity with an additional 6 months expected until regaining similar levels of performance confidence pre injury. Just my personal experience.

[The Sultan]

12 months for return to activity with an additional 6 months expected until regaining similar levels of performance confidence pre injury. Just my personal experience.

As I said...

History tells us that panda doesn't have the best sources.

[panda2.0]

Good thing he'll be nearly 2 years removed from the injury. And that his injury isn't even the same body part that Aaron Rodgers's was. And that he's half Aaron's age.

GE discussed his knee being sound for a while which is purely conjecture based on limited information, much like when the public went crazy seeing arodg throwing a football "way ahead of schedule."

The true litmus test is a return to full game speed, not getting excited and declaring him fit after seeing him do something in warmups.

It takes a while to regain confidence in the knee as well as acclimate to the speed of the game. As you said, he's two years removed from a serious injury. That's a long time to not play any competitive basketball. Don't count on him for similar levels of production straight away.

[panda2.0]

As I said...

It's always a safe place to sit back and second guess everyone's posts here. Just not a good look