2025 Transfer Portal

[Pakuni]

No one on Scoop has demonstrated any influence upon Shaka's decisions, but the tone of many posts, to me, sound as if delusion is widespread here. You seem to be certain of what an "improved roster" is and are desperately seeking validation from "everyone".   

I have "no idea" what any of "this" is supposed "to mean."
You have nothing intelligent to say, so instead just get personal.

[Pakuni]

Max Langenfeld

https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=65586.msg1653067#msg1653067

IIRC it fell apart in the final hours.

That was the equivalent of a high school recruit (he was a freshman at FAU this year), not a portal player.

[The Sultan]

But not wrong.

Shouldn't wanting an improved roster be something everyone can agree on?

Yes. I trust Shaka to do so in the way he feels best.

[Its DJOver]

That was the equivalent of a high school recruit (he was a freshman at FAU this year), not a portal player.

Freshman eligibility wise, but played with professionals in Germany.

[MarquetteMike1977]

Looking at Rocky's Portal Website.
UCLA's Mara in portal Arizona's Veesaar in portal. Clemson Big Man Reevs in Portal TCU Big Udeh in Portal Mississippi State Jeremy Foumena6'11 235 in Portal Among many other Bigs

[Pakuni]

Freshman eligibility wise, but played with professionals in Germany.

Still not a portal player.
Also, he's a 6'6" wing who appeared in six games this year for FAU, averaging 8.5 minutes per game.
I doubt very much Shaka was looking at him as a contributor this year.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

Meechie Johnson started his career at Ohio State and then transferred to South Carolina.

He then transferred from South Carolina back to Ohio State.

He now has transferred from Ohio State back to South Carolina.

https://x.com/CBB_Central/status/1907126063685099785?t=nLeacYZxmWDzWmNBkjl95w&s=19

https://x.com/CBKReport/status/1907127113284510162?t=ElFKxvixg6-1sp5zGvLwbA&s=19

He's undecided and just can't pick the right place.

[wadesworld]

But not wrong.

Shouldn't wanting an improved roster be something everyone can agree on?

Shaka seems to think "improving the roster" means retaining the players he recruited and believing in their development.  Other coaches seem to think "improving the roster" means getting players out of the portal.

Like I said, there are multiple ways to win in college basketball.  Crying because Shaka doesn't do it the way you see best is getting old.

[LAZER]

Freshman eligibility wise, but played with professionals in Germany.

Was there anybody else besides Langenfeld? And I don't have a problem with Shaka staying away from the portal last year with the team he had coming back, but this year seems like a good time to leverage the portal.

[tower912]

Was there anybody else besides Langenfeld? And I don't have a problem with Shaka staying away from the portal last year with the team he had coming back, but this year seems like a good time to leverage the portal.

You can go back and look through threads, but I do not recall anyone being rumored to MU.  So he used the last scholarship on another project big.

[LAZER]

Shaka seems to think "improving the roster" means retaining the players he recruited and believing in their development.  Other coaches seem to think "improving the roster" means getting players out of the portal.

Like I said, there are multiple ways to win in college basketball.  Crying because Shaka doesn't do it the way you see best is getting old.

Personally, I don't think it needs to be an either/or. Certainly he could add talent through the portal while simultaneously developing the guys he recruited.

[wadesworld]

Personally, I don't think it needs to be an either/or. Certainly he could add talent through the portal while simultaneously developing the guys he recruited.

Sure.  But until Shaka isn't competing for the NCAA Tournament I'll just not cry every time I see a big name in the portal commit somewhere that isn't Marquette.

[Its DJOver]

Still not a portal player.
Also, he's a 6'6" wing who appeared in six games this year for FAU, averaging 8.5 minutes per game.
I doubt very much Shaka was looking at him as a contributor this year.

But not a "high school" recruit either.  He was an international recruit.  I'd put it in between the two.  He had 4 years of eligibility similar to a high school recruit but had experience against professionals.

[Pakuni]

Personally, I don't think it needs to be an either/or. Certainly he could add talent through the portal while simultaneously developing the guys he recruited.

Exactly this.

[Pakuni]

Shaka seems to think "improving the roster" means retaining the players he recruited and believing in their development.  Other coaches seem to think "improving the roster" means getting players out of the portal.

Like I said, there are multiple ways to win in college basketball.  Crying because Shaka doesn't do it the way you see best is getting old.

Sigh.
Nobody is crying. It's a discussion forum. People are discussing things. Not every idea that isn't yours is crying.

[lake]

Sure.  But until Shaka isn't competing for the NCAA Tournament I'll just not cry every time I see a big name in the portal commit somewhere that isn't Marquette.

Does the CoS have set requirements for only replying in a condescending manner?

[The Sultan]

Does the CoS have set requirements for only replying in a condescending manner?

Ironic that someone would use something as lame as "COS" and then complain about OTHERS being condescending.     

[RJax55]

Exactly this.

But, we are not losing contributors or expected contributors in the portal either. If Shaka was active in the portal, would that change the equation? Perhaps. Anyway, not sure why that is not part of the discussion.

[MuMark]

Grass wasn't greener

https://x.com/tiptonedits/status/1907149048349364353?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw

[Galway Eagle]

Grass wasn't greener

https://x.com/tiptonedits/status/1907149048349364353?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw

For the most part he seemed a bit out of his element there.

[Pakuni]

But, we are not losing contributors or expected contributors in the portal either. If Shaka was active in the portal, would that change the equation? Perhaps. Anyway, not sure why that is not part of the discussion.

I'm not sure that matters. Is using the portal only wise/necessary when you lose players to the portal?
We're losing high-end players to graduation and replacing them with question marks.
Will Sean Jones not only look like himself pre-injury, but be a better version of himself to be given the keys to the offense?
Can Tre Norman bounce back, or is this who he is?
Can Parham at least replicate what Joplin provided?
Can Owens figure it out?

I can't be the only one who'd be more comfortable with a proven commodity in the post next year instead of just crossing our fingers and hope ... what? Ben hits the weight room really hard and adds at least a little variety to his game? Caedin Hamilton takes a massive leap? Josh Clark is a revelation, the way Hamilton was supposed to be this year?
Sure, all those things could happen. But hope isn't a strategy.

[Galway Eagle]

I'm not sure that matters. Is using the portal only wise/necessary when you lose players to the portal?
We're losing high-end players to graduation and replacing them with question marks.
Will Sean Jones not only look like himself pre-injury, but be a better version of himself to be given the keys to the offense?
Can Tre Norman bounce back, or is this who he is?
Can Parham at least replicate what Joplin provided?
Can Owens figure it out?

I can't be the only one who'd be more comfortable with a proven commodity in the post next year instead of just crossing our fingers and hope ... what? Ben hits the weight room really hard and adds at least a little variety to his game? Caedin Hamilton takes a massive leap? Josh Clark is a revelation, the way Hamilton was supposed to be this year?
Sure, all those things could happen. But hope isn't a strategy.

I'm not saying this will happen again but in 2023 did you foresee us sweeping the big east titles and getting a 2 seed after losing Darryl Kur and Justin?

It'd be great to pull in portal guys but if not pulling them in gets these guys a ton of experience and we're back as a protected seed in 2027 then I'm here for it.

[LAZER]

But, we are not losing contributors or expected contributors in the portal either. If Shaka was active in the portal, would that change the equation? Perhaps. Anyway, not sure why that is not part of the discussion.

It should definitely be part of the discussion and I guess it comes down to who the expected contributors are. Are you concerned with taking away minutes from Jones/Norman at PG or minutes away from Hamilton/Clark at C? Personally, those are two spots I'd look to add and if the guys I mentioned miss out on minutes, I'd be ok with it. Understand that a transfer is far from a sure thing, but it's a risk I'd be willing to take.

[MUbiz]

I'm not saying this will happen again but in 2023 did you foresee us sweeping the big east titles and getting a 2 seed after losing Darryl Kur and Justin?

It'd be great to pull in portal guys but if not pulling them in gets these guys a ton of experience and we're back as a protected seed in 2027 then I'm here for it.

I think there was quite the difference between 2023 and next year:

Omax was a top 20 power forward coming out of high school and was not being used right at Clemson. Kolek was freshman of the year in A10. We saw that Kam could be good his freshman year.

Next year, we have Tre Norman, who has regressed. We have Sean Jones, who will not have played in nearly 2 years. And we do not have anyone that has shown they can consistently be the alpha and lead the team in scoring.

[The Sultan]

I think there was quite the difference between 2023 and next year:

Omax was a top 20 power forward coming out of high school and was not being used right at Clemson. Kolek was freshman of the year in A10. We saw that Kam could be good his freshman year.

Next year, we have Tre Norman, who has regressed. We have Sean Jones, who will not have played in nearly 2 years. And we do not have anyone that has shown they can consistently be the alpha and lead the team in scoring.

I think you are using a lot of hindsight here.