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Hards Alumni

Quote from: tower912 on March 21, 2025, 02:00:29 PMBut could you find players who would look at the rest of the roster and then come to MU with no bag drop and no guarantee of playing time?

These guys live in a fantasy world where great players are available without baggage and willing to come off the bench for a year.

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: tower912 on March 21, 2025, 02:00:29 PMBut could you find players who would look at the rest of the roster and then come to MU with no bag drop and no guarantee of playing time?

Another inconvenient truth that the Portal Pushers ignore. Where's the $ for your strategy? This comes from a guy who posted that, in ignoring recruiting HS players, "Pitino is totally right." (Totally".  ::) ?) Pitino has a billionaire in his pocket. Where is our billionaire?
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

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Shaka Shart

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on March 21, 2025, 02:09:12 PMAnother inconvenient truth that the Portal Pushers ignore. Where's the $ for your strategy? This comes from a guy who posted that, in ignoring recruiting HS players, "Pitino is totally right." (Totally".  ::) ?) Pitino has a billionaire in his pocket. Where is our billionaire?

Dentists can't commit the Medicare fraud to get there since it's not covered.

This is why Shaka develops players vs portalling with $$$
" There are two things I can consistently smell.    Poop and Chlorine.  All poop smells like acrid baby poop mixed with diaper creme. And almost anything that smells remotely like poop; porta-johns, water filtration plants, fertilizer, etc., smells exactly the same." - Tower912

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Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: BCHoopster on March 21, 2025, 01:27:49 PMLooking at the roster next year, I do not see one consistent scorer on this team, so with 2000 kids in the portal you should be able to find one, hopefully a grad transfer, so he can use 3 scholarships the next year.  But Shaka is very committed to what he is doing so I doubt it

I see multiple guys that can grow into consistent scorers.

Again, go back to the start of the 22-23 season. Our highest returning scorer was Kam at 7 and change per game.

Viper

Quote from: Big Papi on March 21, 2025, 09:43:17 AMWho is asking for an apology?

Why does everything have to be extremes?

Nothing is 100%.

We used the portal, we got better.  We stopped using portal and now things seem to maybe be trending the wrong way in my eyes.

I applaud Shaka for sticking to what he believes.  He is definitely staking his coaching reputation on it.  I really hope it works out. 

And that's great that we have gone 79-26 the last 3 years.  Great 3 years but the past doesn't mean the future will be the same or better.  Could our record have been better if we brought in 1 transfer player for this year?  Maybe, maybe not.  We did have an obvious weaknesses heading into this year and some question marks.  Coach decided to remain status quo and not address it.  Maybe it was the right move, maybe not.  It is ok to question it.

I'm going to enjoy the rest of this season and hope it doesn't end tonight. 

It's not easy.  I get it.  I hope coach gets it right.

agreed, 100%
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jfp61

Don't ever be worried about scoring. Scoring just occurs.

Do be worried about the guards. None of the returns seem good enough outside Ross.

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: jfp61 on March 21, 2025, 02:46:39 PMDon't ever be worried about scoring. Scoring just occurs.

Do be worried about the guards. None of the returns seem good enough outside Ross.

Don't sleep on Zaide. Big leap coming.

The Sultan

Quote from: Big Papi on March 21, 2025, 09:43:17 AMWho is asking for an apology?

Why does everything have to be extremes?

Nothing is 100%.

We used the portal, we got better.  We stopped using portal and now things seem to maybe be trending the wrong way in my eyes.

I applaud Shaka for sticking to what he believes.  He is definitely staking his coaching reputation on it.  I really hope it works out. 

And that's great that we have gone 79-26 the last 3 years.  Great 3 years but the past doesn't mean the future will be the same or better.  Could our record have been better if we brought in 1 transfer player for this year?  Maybe, maybe not.  We did have an obvious weaknesses heading into this year and some question marks.  Coach decided to remain status quo and not address it.  Maybe it was the right move, maybe not.  It is ok to question it.

I'm going to enjoy the rest of this season and hope it doesn't end tonight. 

It's not easy.  I get it.  I hope coach gets it right.

With the exception of Zach Wrightsil in year two, "we used the portal" to fill out a roster in year one of Shaka.

Regardless, how can you claim "we got better?" Better than what? A hypothetical first year without transfers? Wojo's last year?

That's really not an apples to apples comparison.
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Quote from: Newsdreams on March 21, 2025, 03:04:12 PMDrones is where it's at now

The biggest change in combat since aerial battles.

MU82

Quote from: BCHoopster on March 21, 2025, 01:27:49 PMLooking at the roster next year, I do not see one consistent scorer on this team, so with 2000 kids in the portal you should be able to find one, hopefully a grad transfer, so he can use 3 scholarships the next year.  But Shaka is very committed to what he is doing so I doubt it

You keep saying that we MUST bring in transfers because there are no proven scorers on the roster, while ignoring that we had the exact same situation after the 2021-22 season.

You also have said Shaka and his assistants had little (or even nothing) to do with the improvement of Kolek, Oso, OMax, Kam, Joplin, Ross, Zaide, Parham, Gold. "Players always improve," you said, which of course isn't true.

We get it: You don't like Shaka, and you do like to complain about him. But it's difficult to have a conversation with a person who ignores facts and has already made up his or her mind despite lacking information.
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The Sultan

Quote from: MU82 on March 21, 2025, 04:01:17 PMYou keep saying that we MUST bring in transfers because there are no proven scorers on the roster, while ignoring that we had the exact same situation after the 2021-22 season.

You also have said Shaka and his assistants had little (or even nothing) to do with the improvement of Kolek, Oso, OMax, Kam, Joplin, Ross, Zaide, Parham, Gold. "Players always improve," you said, which of course isn't true.

We get it: You don't like Shaka, and you do like to complain about him. But it's difficult to have a conversation with a person who ignores facts and has already made up his or her mind despite lacking information.


And never responds when people point out his errors.
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Scoop Snoop

Quote from: MU82 on March 21, 2025, 04:01:17 PMYou keep saying that we MUST bring in transfers because there are no proven scorers on the roster, while ignoring that we had the exact same situation after the 2021-22 season.

You also have said Shaka and his assistants had little (or even nothing) to do with the improvement of Kolek, Oso, OMax, Kam, Joplin, Ross, Zaide, Parham, Gold. "Players always improve," you said, which of course isn't true.

We get it: You don't like Shaka, and you do like to complain about him. But it's difficult to have a conversation with a person who ignores facts and has already made up his or her mind despite lacking information.

Nice summary, but if I may add one point that applies to the "portal people" (except Big Papi)- they seem to assume that the portal will always result in an improved roster. At least Papi admits portal players may or may not improve the team. As you said, it's difficult to have a conversation with a person who already has made up his/her mind.
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BCHoopster

Quote from: The Sultan on March 21, 2025, 04:03:05 PMAnd never responds when people point out his errors.

I will respond, hope I am wrong.  Shaka has done a great job for four years, next year will be interesting if his system works.  But if Shaka would have been able to sign a kid here or there, MU would have possibly been better. I will never be happy finishing in the middle of the pack in the Big East.  Tonight's game is big to we where MU stands today, and the future.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: BCHoopster on March 21, 2025, 05:13:47 PMI will respond, hope I am wrong.  Shaka has done a great job for four years, next year will be interesting if his system works.  But if Shaka would have been able to sign a kid here or there, MU would have possibly been better. I will never be happy finishing in the middle of the pack in the Big East.  Tonight's game is big to we where MU stands today, and the future.

You're ignoring that subtraction by addition could very well be a thing.

Assuming all portal guys are good is short sided and why people are giving you grief.

MU82

Your posting history suggests you weren't particularly happy finishing at or near the top of the Big East the previous two years, either.

This post here also contains the single nicest thing you've said about Shaka. I mean, you refused to give him credit for the improvement of Kolek and Oso despite they themselves repeatedly saying he was instrumental.

We agree that bringing in a transfer might have possibly helped ... which by definition also means it might have possibly not helped, or even could have hurt.

We also agree that today's game is big for today. Because it's an NCAA Tournament game.

As to what happens today having something to do with the future ... if we win, yes, because we'd get to play again Sunday. That's the only "future" that matters right this second. If we lose, I doubt it will impact the future much if at all.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: MU82 on March 21, 2025, 05:36:44 PMYour posting history suggests you weren't particularly happy finishing at or near the top of the Big East the previous two years, either.

This post here also contains the single nicest thing you've said about Shaka. I mean, you refused to give him credit for the improvement of Kolek and Oso despite they themselves repeatedly saying he was instrumental.

We agree that bringing in a transfer might have possibly helped ... which by definition also means it might have possibly not helped, or even could have hurt.

We also agree that today's game is big for today. Because it's an NCAA Tournament game.

As to what happens today having something to do with the future ... if we win, yes, because we'd get to play again Sunday. That's the only "future" that matters right this second. If we lose, I doubt it will impact the future much if at all.

I fully expect all the potential returnees and incoming freshmen to hit the portal if we lose tonight. 

The Sultan

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on March 21, 2025, 06:03:07 PMI fully expect all the potential returnees and incoming freshmen to hit the portal if we lose tonight. 

The good news would be that Shaka would forced to finally hit the portal.
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tower912

Quote from: BCHoopster on March 21, 2025, 05:13:47 PMI will respond, hope I am wrong.  Shaka has done a great job for four years, next year will be interesting if his system works.  But if Shaka would have been able to sign a kid here or there, MU would have possibly been better. I will never be happy finishing in the middle of the pack in the Big East.  Tonight's game is big to we where MU stands today, and the future.
There were no scholarships available after Clark was signed.
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It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

drbob

What you non portal people fail to see is by doing nothing to strengthen a perceived weakness there is zero chance of improvement.  A portal player may or may not result in improvement but at least it is possible .  Feel sorry for Gold, he busts his butt but physically overmatched at the 5

The Sultan

Quote from: drbob on March 21, 2025, 07:47:53 PMWhat you non portal people fail to see is by doing nothing to strengthen a perceived weakness there is zero chance of improvement.  A portal player may or may not result in improvement but at least it is possible .  Feel sorry for Gold, he busts his butt but physically overmatched at the 5

So you don't think that players can improve from season to season?
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tower912

Growth and improvement are an actual pillar of the program.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

drbob

Yes players obviously can improve but it is difficult to overcome
Physical limitations like height and strength. Think another big body would have paid big dividends this year

The Sultan

Quote from: drbob on March 21, 2025, 07:58:43 PMYes players obviously can improve but it is difficult to overcome
Physical limitations like height and strength. Think another big body would have paid big dividends this year

So you said "zero chance of improvement," but then acknowledge that players can improve.

Sound logic. 🙄🙄🙄
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