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MuggsyB

Quote from: The Sultan on April 12, 2026, 09:54:46 AMLOL. How is being paid six or seven figures "detrimental to the athletes?"

And you are really being condescending that athletes and their families don't understand how to manage money, including taxes. Sure there are going to be sob stories, but this is MUCH better for the athletes than amateurism and is going to give players a significant head start on adulthood.

I also think it is also good for the sport because it's going to keep players in college longer.

And yes, agents need to exist. You can't simply eliminate them.

Wrong, I can eliminate them.

Scoop Snoop

#2851
Quote from: MuggsyB on April 12, 2026, 10:02:14 AMWrong, I can eliminate them.

 ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

From the same guy who wanted an assassination team to take out Putin and said "I assure you the Russians would surrender immediately".
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

"All of our answers are unencumbered by the thought process." NPR's Click and Clack of Car Talk.

MuggsyB

Fluffy, so it's condescending to suggest 18-23 yr olds don't know diddly squat about money managing, but perfectly understandable that they hire agents who take 15-25% of their income?  Stop Whistling Dixie.

MuggsyB

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on April 12, 2026, 10:08:53 AM;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

From the same guy who wanted an assassination team to take out Putin and said "I assure you the Russians would surrender immediately".

Not "wanted" it should happen immediately.  :)

The Sultan

Quote from: MuggsyB on April 12, 2026, 10:13:32 AMFluffy, so it's condescending to suggest 18-23 yr olds don't know diddly squat about money managing, but perfectly understandable that they hire agents who take 15-25% of their income?  Stop Whistling Dixie.


There are plenty of good agents.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MuggsyB

Quote from: The Sultan on April 12, 2026, 10:24:50 AMThere are plenty of good agents.

How can they be good if they're taking those percentages? 

#UnleashThePortal

#2856
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on April 12, 2026, 07:06:49 AMConsidering his being impaired resulted in a car accident and two Marquette student athletes were killed last fall by a drunk driver it seems pretty self-explanatory to me that Shaka wouldn't get involved.

Nothing funny about a DUI.

If you are really comparing an 11:45am arrest due to weed residue, with a drunken driver at night, then you really have ZERO nuance in this.

Regardless, thinking that someone isn't going to go after a player, due to a simple dui, you're lost.

You also have zero idea on what actually caused the crash. It could be 100% the other person's fault, and you will still be arrested. Coupled with the fact that a weed dui could be the equivalent of a single beer on the "intoxication" level.

#UnleashThePortal

Quote from: MuggsyB on April 12, 2026, 09:48:46 AMI would eliminate the agents entirely and have a salary limit. I'm also guessing there's a sizeable percentage of these players that spend their entire NIL income and have no idea about the taxes.  Personally I think this whole thing is detrimental not only to the sport, but to the athletes.  Unless you change a number of things, including setting them up with a Trust or retirement fund. 

LOL

you're right. We should stop paying players ASAP. So we can help them.

Old men are unnatural carnal knowledgeing hilarious

The Sultan

Quote from: MuggsyB on April 12, 2026, 10:27:01 AMHow can they be good if they're taking those percentages? 

Did I say they were all good???
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MuggsyB

Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on April 12, 2026, 10:31:40 AMLOL

you're right. We should stop paying players ASAP. So we can help them.

Old men are unnatural carnal knowledgeing hilarious

I'm a young 42.  Tip-top condition.  :)

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: MuggsyB on April 12, 2026, 10:37:30 AMI'm a young 42.  Tip-top condition.  :)

Maybe physically, but....

Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

"All of our answers are unencumbered by the thought process." NPR's Click and Clack of Car Talk.

#UnleashThePortal

Quote from: MuggsyB on April 12, 2026, 10:37:30 AMI'm a young 42.  Tip-top condition.  :)

A 42 year old thinking college players shouldn't be paid because it's "detrimental" to them is a crazy thought pattern.

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on April 12, 2026, 10:29:46 AMIf you are really comparing an 11:45am arrest due to weed residue, with a drunken driver at night, then you really have ZERO nuance in this.

Regardless, thinking that someone isn't going to go after a player, due to a simple dui, you're lost.

You also have zero idea on what actually caused the crash. It could be 100% the other person's fault, and you will still be arrested. Coupled with the fact that a weed dui could be the equivalent of a single beer on the "intoxication" level.

I'm not the one with zero nuance in this exchange - you should probably take a look in the mirror.

I'm not saying the kid doesn't deserve a second chance.  I'm not saying it will matter to other coaches.

What I am saying is it would matter to Shaka and that's the point.  Sorry  if that's too complicated for you.

MuggsyB

Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on April 12, 2026, 10:51:18 AMA 42 year old thinking college players shouldn't be paid because it's "detrimental" to them is a crazy thought pattern.

They're getting paid.  They're professional athletes.  I don't think you're looking at this from a macro perspective.  Changes need to be made imo to the system. 

#UnleashThePortal

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on April 12, 2026, 11:01:19 AMI'm not the one with zero nuance in this exchange - you should probably take a look in the mirror.

I'm not saying the kid doesn't deserve a second chance.  I'm not saying it will matter to other coaches.

What I am saying is it would matter to Shaka and that's the point.  Sorry  if that's too complicated for you.

Im sure it absolutely doesn't.

Should we kick all marquette students with previous DUI'S out of the school?

You compared a fatal drunken dui, with a small fender bender that may or may not have even been caused by the player.

#UnleashThePortal

Quote from: MuggsyB on April 12, 2026, 11:01:48 AMThey're getting paid.  They're professional athletes.  I don't think you're looking at this from a macro perspective.  Changes need to be made imo to the system.

"Personally I think this whole thing is detrimental not only to the sport, but to the athletes.  Unless you change a number of things, including setting them up with a Trust or retirement fund."

Just come out and say what you mean muggsy. You dont trust young black kids to have control of money.

This is the same argument every 75 year old white man makes, it's just shocking you are only 42.

forgetful

Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on April 12, 2026, 11:05:51 AMIm sure it absolutely doesn't.

Should we kick all marquette students with previous DUI'S out of the school?

You compared a fatal drunken dui, with a small fender bender that may or may not have even been caused by the player.

Are we paying these other students 6 or 7 figures to play basketball at MU?

And there is a difference between a student already on campus where we can address it with disciplinary actions, and one we are recruiting. We would not accept a transfer student who would have been disciplinarily removed from another University due to a DUI that resulted in an accident.

They would have been expelled by BYU if they weren't an athlete.

Jay Bee

Hey, Hurley's top assistant coach is a convicted felon who did time in prison. Why shut out a kid for a little weed?
The portal is NOT closed.

#UnleashThePortal

Quote from: forgetful on April 12, 2026, 11:14:04 AMAre we paying these other students 6 or 7 figures to play basketball at MU?

And there is a difference between a student already on campus where we can address it with disciplinary actions, and one we are recruiting. We would not accept a transfer student who would have been disciplinarily removed from another University due to a DUI that resulted in an accident.

They would have been expelled by BYU if they weren't an athlete.

Marquette absolutely accepts students with previous duis. 

#UnleashThePortal

Quote from: Jay Bee on April 12, 2026, 11:15:51 AMHey, Hurley's top assistant coach is a convicted felon who did time in prison. Why shut out a kid for a little weed?

By the same comparison we should be shunning Kam Jones. Driving at reckless speeds on the highway while fleeing police is absolutely more dangerous then a 20mph fender bender.

The Sultan

Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on April 12, 2026, 11:19:23 AMMarquette absolutely accepts students with previous duis. 

That's not quite what forgetful said, but I am not sure his statement is accurate anyway.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on April 12, 2026, 11:09:07 AMJust come out and say what you mean muggsy. You dont trust young black kids to have control of money.

This is the same argument every 75 year old white man makes.

Nice! You exposed Muggsy's prejudice and then put your own on display in the same post.  ;D 
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

"All of our answers are unencumbered by the thought process." NPR's Click and Clack of Car Talk.

#UnleashThePortal

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on April 12, 2026, 11:30:23 AMNice! You exposed Muggsy's prejudice and then put your own on display in the same post.  ;D 

My disdain for 79 year old white men has been pretty blatant on scoop sir.

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on April 12, 2026, 11:31:52 AMMy disdain for 79 year old white men has been pretty blatant on scoop sir.

Oh, one in particular we agree on. But that's not what you wrote. Nice attempt to blatantly move the goal posts sir.
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

"All of our answers are unencumbered by the thought process." NPR's Click and Clack of Car Talk.

#UnleashThePortal

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on April 12, 2026, 11:34:26 AMOh, one in particular we agree on. But that's not what you wrote. Nice attempt to blatantly move the goal posts sir.

It's all good. You can't be racist against white people.

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