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[The Sultan]

I expect those insults from others here but not from someone of your stature.

Perhaps you should reflect why someone of his stature is insulting you. But of course that would require accurate self-reflection...

[BrewCity83]

Marquette is willingly dropping several levels below their competition recruiting kids who are unranked/un recruited or lightly recruited by low majors.

Bad example. Find a high major team who took a zero star high school recruit and turned him into an all conference player in the last 4 years.

Different sport, but last night's #1 pick in the NFL draft was Cam Ward, a 0-Star recruit out of high school.  It happens, rating services are flawed and kids develop.

[tower912]

Tyler Kolek was zero stars

[panda2.0]

Hahaha! I literally laughed out loud when I read your response. You get proven wrong and then try to dance out of it like a one-legged Ginger Rogers.

I guess you're right if you think Marquette and Boise state are on the same level. That would be a sad state of affairs.

[wadesworld]

Very simple - teams like Boise state or many, many other programs who don't have the resources or national profile Marquette does need to take a chance on kids like degenhart because their evaluation pool is smaller.

Marquette is willingly dropping several levels below their competition recruiting kids who are unranked/un recruited or lightly recruited by low majors.

Bad example. Find a high major team who took a zero star high school recruit and turned him into an all conference player in the last 4 years.

Alijah Martin was just the second leading scorer on the national championship team and was a 0 star recruit.

The national title game is full of 3 star guys you would've wanted Shaka to cut before they ever had a chance to develop.

[panda2.0]

Alijah Martin was just the second leading scorer on the national championship team and was a 0 star recruit.

The national title game is full of 3 star guys you would've wanted Shaka to cut before they ever had a chance to develop.

And how many of those players started at those programs?

The portal is great because you can identify players already succeeding in college.

[wadesworld]

And how many of those players started at those programs?

The portal is great because you can identify players already succeeding in college.

And you can lose players already succeeding in college.

Condon, Haugh, Aberdeen were all 3 stars that started at Florida.  Sharp, Roberts, Arceneaux were all 3 stars that started at Houston.  You would've bitched that Shaka didn't want to win if these guys were on Marquette's roster.

[Its DJOver]

Guys, all Panda wants to do is complain and argue.  It's why he was perma-banned. It's why he shifts the goalposts in his arguments. Regardless of how the season went or what offseason moves Shaka may have made, he would have found something to complain about and then argued with anyone who would respond to him.  He's proved he has a low understanding of the game, he's proved that his sources at MU are either bad or made up, just let him yell at some clouds.

[Hards Alumni]

I expect those insults from others here but not from someone of your stature.

Well you're just being silly.  You're making conclusions about players that you've seen limited minutes from who are underclassmen.

[Hards Alumni]

Perhaps you should reflect why someone of his stature is insulting you. But of course that would require accurate self-reflection...

I'm only 5'10

[Zog from Margo]

I guess you're right if you think Marquette and Boise state are on the same level. That would be a sad state of affairs.

You don't think Tyson Degenhart was a high major player. I will keep that in mind when considering your other basketball-related statements.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Very simple - teams like Boise state or many, many other programs who don't have the resources or national profile Marquette does need to take a chance on kids like degenhart because their evaluation pool is smaller.

Marquette is willingly dropping several levels below their competition recruiting kids who are unranked/un recruited or lightly recruited by low majors.

Bad example. Find a high major team who took a zero star high school recruit and turned him into an all conference player in the last 4 years.

Come on.  Shaka has 15 scholarships to play with.  His rotation is usually 9-10 guys and typically shrinks to 7-8 towards the end of the season and tourney time. 

Taking some project bigs and redshirting them makes a ton of sense from a strategic standpoint. 

[MU82]

I'm on record saying I will eat my column if Hamilton turns into anything with Marquette. I will add Clark to that list as well.

Your exact words were "significant contributor." And then, when pressed, you used unrealistic stats to define "significant contributor" - stats that future NBAers such as Oso nor OMax never came close to at Marquette.

So again, you're really making quite a statement by saying you'll eat your "column" if Hamilton and Clark don't exceed Oso's production. Big risk!

Tell you what - I'll print this out and eat it if Tre Norman is a significant contributor** next season.

(**significant contributor is defined as averaging 14 points and 7 assists. So what if Kam Jones, Mark Sears and Walter Clayton Jr. didn't do that for their teams? I get to choose whatever definition I want!)

[79Warrior]

So far, Marquette has retained its players, and as you have stated the market has exploded. My concern is in the future will there be enough money to keep our players from leaving for greener pastures. I think our current AD has those concerns as well. If BTD can only afford a MAC or Horizon player from the portal than that is what I would assume a HS recruit is being offered to play at MU. The next 2 or 3 seasons will reveal to us where the program stands nationally.

NIL is a slow motion train wreck that will likely look different several years from now. It is not a sustainable model and will probably be modified.

I am not concerned where MU is nationally in 2 or 3 years. The administration is fully supportive of the program and we are hardly alone. The hand wringing over using the portal(or not) is ridiculous.

I trust Shaka and Broker know what they are doing. They are making the best decisions with what we have as a program.

[wadesworld]

Shaka is handling his projects exactly like he should.  Bring them in early, redshirt them, try to develop them, give them limited minutes.  If they have potential, keep them in the program for a second year of potentially limited minutes, or a bigger role.  After that year, if they still don't seem up to the task then have the honest conversation that moving a level down might be best (Keeyan, Al).  If players 8, 9, 10 are those projects?  Big problem.  12 and 13?  No problem at all.

Panda saying having guys 12 and 13 being projects hurt our chances when rotation pieces got banged up down the stretch of the season is hilarious.  Nobody in the portal that should get high major minutes is coming to Marquette to be the 12th and 13th guy in case someone in rotation spots 1-8 get hurt and everyone gets to bump up a spot.

[panda2.0]

And you can lose players already succeeding in college.

Condon, Haugh, Aberdeen were all 3 stars that started at Florida.  Sharp, Roberts, Arceneaux were all 3 stars that started at Houston.  You would've bitched that Shaka didn't want to win if these guys were on Marquette's roster.

Condon was an nba global academy kid.

Haugh had multiple high major offers

Aberdeen also had multiple HM offers.

Sharp also had multiple HM offers.

Roberts also had multiple HM offers.

Arceneaux was a 4 start with multiple HM offers.

Absolutely nothing similar to the stature of player such as Hamilton, Clark etc.

Swing and a miss !

[panda2.0]

Come on.  Shaka has 15 scholarships to play with.  His rotation is usually 9-10 guys and typically shrinks to 7-8 towards the end of the season and tourney time. 

Taking some project bigs and redshirting them makes a ton of sense for a strategic standpoint. 

It doesn't make sense when there is zero roster mobility for current team needs.

[panda2.0]

Guys, all Panda wants to do is complain and argue.  It's why he was perma-banned. It's why he shifts the goalposts in his arguments. Regardless of how the season went or what offseason moves Shaka may have made, he would have found something to complain about and then argued with anyone who would respond to him.  He's proved he has a low understanding of the game, he's proved that his sources at MU are either bad or made up, just let him yell at some clouds.

When did I complain the two seasons previous to this one? All of the receipts  are saved and available. Please show me.

[wadesworld]

Condon was an nba global academy kid.

Haugh had multiple high major offers

Aberdeen also had multiple HM offers.

Sharp also had multiple HM offers.

Roberts also had multiple HM offers.

Arceneaux was a 4 start with multiple HM offers.

Absolutely nothing similar to the stature of player such as Hamilton, Clark etc.

Swing and a miss !

So when you said, "Who were the 3 stars that started at those schools?" you didn't really want the answer to that huh?

You are right on Arceneaux though.  I was wrong on him, not sure why I thought he was a 3 star recruit.

[panda2.0]

You don't think Tyson Degenhart was a high major player. I will keep that in mind when considering your other basketball-related statements.

No - he turned into a high quality player because of the opportunities afforded to him playing at a lower quality school. Marquette cannot offer that opportunity to similarly unheralded recruits to play 70% of the mins their freshman year.

[panda2.0]

So when you said, "Who were the 3 stars that started at those schools?" you didn't really want the answer to that huh?

You are right on Arceneaux though.  I was wrong on him, not sure why I thought he was a 3 star recruit.

Question - does 247 give out 1 and 2 star rankings? Because the players we both parsed out from Houston and Florida were in a different stratosphere recruiting wise out of HS than the mu "3 stars"

[Galway Eagle]

Condon was an nba global academy kid.

If you're going to use this as an example of touting a young man's potential then I think you might be interested in where Gold came from

[Viper]

Viper wants us to be more like Wisco........recruit over players for the next best thing coming down the line.

...Just win meaningful games in late March. Then again, what Bo Ryan did at Wisconsin, yes please.

[Zog from Margo]

No - he turned into a high quality player because of the opportunities afforded to him playing at a lower quality school. Marquette cannot offer that opportunity to similarly unheralded recruits to play 70% of the mins their freshman year.

Isn't that the point? He wasn't highly recruited and became a high quality player D-1 player. Your belief that players improve primarily based on game minutes also is wrong but once again quite telling.

[Viper]

Why wouldn't they return?

unfortunately, and imo, you are correct