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tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MuMark

They have 3 point shooters......they just are having a tough season shooting them.

Guys who have been good 3 point shooters in college......Jop and Kam are having down seasons much below career norms

Gold is shooting it well this season and was as a recruit

Lowery and Parham were both solid to really good 3 point shooters as recruits

The only guy who was recruited as a non shooter was Norman.

It has nothing to,do with Shaka not valuing the 3 point shot in his recruiting........stuff happens

jesmu84

If you don't make 3s with regularity, are you good at making 3s?

bradforster


Shaka Shart

" There are two things I can consistently smell.    Poop and Chlorine.  All poop smells like acrid baby poop mixed with diaper creme. And almost anything that smells remotely like poop; porta-johns, water filtration plants, fertilizer, etc., smells exactly the same." - Tower912

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PointWarrior

0 baskets made by the bench,  0 three's made by anyone not named Joplin.  I would assume no starting spot is safe next years if you cant shoot.,

MuMark

Quote from: jesmu84 on March 05, 2025, 10:18:50 PMIf you don't make 3s with regularity, are you good at making 3s?

They haven't been good this season......but it's not because Shaka didn't recruit guys who could make 3s regularly when he recruited them.

Still could have won if we could have gotten a few more defensive rebounds.

MUfan12

He hasn't had a knockdown shooter yet. Maybe Phillips or Miletic.

Biggest issue is the lack of physicality, IMO.


The Sultan

I do wonder why our shooters aren't more consistent from year to year. I think there may be too much tinkering with shots and that doesn't help with consistency.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: The Sultan on March 05, 2025, 10:50:54 PMI do wonder why our shooters aren't more consistent from year to year. I think there may be too much tinkering with shots and that doesn't help with consistency.
Something is screwed up when guys are getting worse and worse over their careers shooting it. 

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on March 05, 2025, 10:57:30 PMSomething is screwed up when guys are getting worse and worse over their careers shooting it. 

Care to share some examples of year-over-year regression for multiple players?  Or are you talking out of your ass?

DoctorV

Quote from: MUfan12 on March 05, 2025, 10:47:24 PMHe hasn't had a knockdown shooter yet. Maybe Phillips or Miletic.

Biggest issue is the lack of physicality, IMO.



Kam shot 40+% from 3 on 6,5+ attempts from 3 last season.

Thats a knockdown shooter.

It's much different when the maestro is getting you the ball for open looks with perfect dimes in the shooting pocket in rhythm, versus trying to become the maestro while still being that knockdown shooter....

Shaka and Kam learned that lesson the hard way this season.
Still ball left to play, he needs to find that shooting stroke when it matters most, and it doesn't matter most than these next few weeks

PistolPete

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on March 05, 2025, 11:00:19 PMCare to share some examples of year-over-year regression for multiple players?  Or are you talking out of your ass?

Not faulting Shaka for the YOY regression but Kam and Jop are multiple examples

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: PistolPete on March 05, 2025, 11:24:11 PMNot faulting Shaka for the YOY regression but Kam and Jop are multiple examples

No, they're not. They're two guys shooting worse than their career averages.

That's not an example of a consistent pattern.

MUfan12

Quote from: PistolPete on March 05, 2025, 11:24:11 PMNot faulting Shaka for the YOY regression but Kam and Jop are multiple examples

Their shooting has regressed but no arguing the rest of their games have improved. Kam especially, but the strides Jop has made as an on-ball defender are huge.

CountryRoads

Quote from: The Sultan on March 05, 2025, 10:50:54 PMI do wonder why our shooters aren't more consistent from year to year. I think there may be too much tinkering with shots and that doesn't help with consistency.

Search "Kam Jones Baylor" on YouTube and just look at the night and day difference with how his shot looks now versus then. Had a beautiful arc and never hit the rim from 3 in that game.

BCHoopster

Nevada Smith, shooting guru. What really bugs me is Kam Jones at the free throw line, does he practice that? Is first attempt tonight was left of the target, sad.  I can understand missing 3's but free throws wow.  Shaka should early in the game put him off the ball and get him a good look. Needs to get his confidence going.

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: BCHoopster on March 05, 2025, 11:50:33 PMNevada Smith, shooting guru. What really bugs me is Kam Jones at the free throw line, does he practice that? Is first attempt tonight was left of the target, sad.  I can understand missing 3's but free throws wow.  Shaka should early in the game put him off the ball and get him a good look. Needs to get his confidence going.

That's not what Nevada does.

Come on, dude.

79Warrior

Quote from: MUfan12 on March 05, 2025, 10:47:24 PMHe hasn't had a knockdown shooter yet. Maybe Phillips or Miletic.

Biggest issue is the lack of physicality, IMO.



THIS

MuggsyB

Kam doesn't seem to have much spin on his J. 

DoctorV

Physicality isn't being addressed with the next crop of recruits either.

Doesn't seem to be what Shaka is after. He praises "dudes" but only really recruits a few here and there.

Stevens fits the bill but Miletic and Phillips aren't dudes, James is built but small.
DO and Parham aren't dudes either, but can fill out with a lot of work.

It'll always be smaller and weaker with the type of 5 man that Shaka wants.

It has to be better with regards to shooting from outside and overall scoring ability though. Skinny length with a few dudes is ok as long as it's disruptive and can shoot the ball and score

The Sultan

Quote from: CountryRoads on March 05, 2025, 11:36:52 PMSearch "Kam Jones Baylor" on YouTube and just look at the night and day difference with how his shot looks now versus then. Had a beautiful arc and never hit the rim from 3 in that game.

But that season, his sophomore campaign when he had the "kiss the sky" jumper, he has a worse 3 point shooting percentage than the seasons before and after.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Warrior of Law

The portal should include someone willing to get a rebound, and someone who can throw a ball in the ocean from the beach.
"You can only protect your liberties in this world by protecting the other man's freedom. You can only be free if I am free."  Clarence Darrow

tower912

Shaka will change his roster construction when there are unexpected departures. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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