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Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 30, 2025, 04:08:20 PMKept waiting for Jamal Cain or Greg Elliot to breakout.  Wrong there.

Big Dameon Mason fan, too.

I'll have you know that I had D-Mace sign my final four shirt in New Orleans while he was walking down the street with his father.

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Quote from: Hards Alumni on January 31, 2025, 07:08:21 AMI'll have you know that I had D-Mace sign my final four shirt in New Orleans while he was walking down the street with his father.

I was at Miller Park pretty hammered and ran into Tom Crean and told him to unleash Dameon and I'm pretty sure he transferred shortly after that
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tower912

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Tre was the player interview with Jen Lada last night.  Good stuff.

Also... Sean looks really good, really fast.
With Clark, Amadou, Sean, and the walkons as the scout team, sometimes Shaka has to be mindful about the scout team hurting the confidence of the bench players by beating them.

Shaka still thinks Sean is the fastest player in college basketball.

Tre loves to have Caedin as his teammate in 2 on 2 games.  When in doubt, he throws the ball to Caedin, the strongest dude on the team, who bullies his way to the basket. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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Quote from: tower912 on January 30, 2025, 07:12:06 AMHot takes are fun.  They make scoop go round.  If I ran things, there would be a rule that if a hot take was ultimately blown up, the poster of the original hot take would have to come back and (A) admit they were wrong and why, (B) defend it and explain why everyone else was wrong, and most importantly (C) explain their process that led to the spectacularly wrong hot take.
  For example, I thought Itejere could be productive at MU.  I was clearly wrong.  My thought process was that he was long and athletic and I thought the coaching staff could work their voodoo and he could end up another Oso. 

Having people explain why they stayed off the Tko train so long, or why they thought Parham, Hamilton, and Owens should start over Gold, Joplin, and Stevie would be educational.  It might even help us be less confrontational.  Finally, admitting you were wrong once in a while is good for the soul.

This is great advice in life as well. We aren't seeing that these days.

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Quote from: tower912 on January 31, 2025, 07:38:04 AMTre was the player interview with Jen Lada last night.  Good stuff.

Also... Sean looks really good, really fast.
With Clark, Amadou, Sean, and the walkons as the scout team, sometimes Shaka has to be mindful about the scout team hurting the confidence of the bench players by beating them.

Shaka still thinks Sean is the fastest player in college basketball.

Tre loves to have Caedin as his teammate in 2 on 2 games.  When in doubt, he throws the ball to Caedin, the strongest dude on the team, who bullies his way to the basket. 

Makes you wonder if Caedin just looked so good and advanced in the summer because he was playing against other Marquette guys, not exactly the beefiest dudes in the world.

In the same token, Damarius seems like he would shine in a less organized setting where defense isn't valued as much and guys play a looser and more run and gun rather than half court mentality.

I don't think I'm mistaken when I say I remember most people saying Damarius was way ahead of Royce both offensively and defensively in the preseason.
He got hurt and that set him back, but I'd bet the style helped him shine quite a bit more quicker out of the game.
Royce has been the better defender

wadesworld

Quote from: DoctorV on January 31, 2025, 08:49:26 PMMakes you wonder if Caedin just looked so good and advanced in the summer because he was playing against other Marquette guys, not exactly the beefiest dudes in the world.

In the same token, Damarius seems like he would shine in a less organized setting where defense isn't valued as much and guys play a looser and more run and gun rather than half court mentality.

I don't think I'm mistaken when I say I remember most people saying Damarius was way ahead of Royce both offensively and defensively in the preseason.
He got hurt and that set him back, but I'd bet the style helped him shine quite a bit more quicker out of the game.
Royce has been the better defender

Yes. If there's anything we've seen about Marquette it's that Gold can't guard bigs and our defense is loose and relaxed. Our defense tends to make players look a lot better than they are.

tower912

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Quote from: wadesworld on January 31, 2025, 08:51:04 PMYes. If there's anything we've seen about Marquette it's that Gold can't guard bigs and our defense is loose and relaxed. Our defense tends to make players look a lot better than they are.
All of this.  Shaka has said that Caedin is the biggest, strongest player on the team.  He has said he wants Caedin to play as physical in a game as he does in practice.

As to DO, pretty simple.  The hype was real.  A freshman missing most of the preseason and then struggling is almost a cliche.  Certainly predictable.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

DoctorV

Quote from: tower912 on January 31, 2025, 08:58:20 PMAll of this.  Shaka has said that Caedin is the biggest, strongest player on the team.  He has said he wants Caedin to play as physical in a game as he does in practice.

As to DO, pretty simple.  The hype was real.  A freshman missing most of the preseason and then struggling is almost a cliche.  Certainly predictable.

Ok fine. Thing is, I didn't say that Caedin isn't the strongest player on the team or that DO isn't the real deal.

I simply said that Caedin and DO were the most hyped newcomers in the pre-season and both play much less and have an impact less than expected.

Again, it's not a slight, it's just the truth.

As a matter of fact, most everyone thought DO could start and Parham would barely play, and Royce has had a much bigger impact in year one thus far.

These things can change and are always fluid, my main point is that I can see why Caedins bully ball bigger size and impressive ball handling/passing style and DOs free flowing elite athleticism would play up in a pre-season setting with the only competition being Marquette teammates and walk-ons

wadesworld

Quote from: DoctorV on January 31, 2025, 09:17:06 PMOk fine. Thing is, I didn't say that Caedin isn't the strongest player on the team or that DO isn't the real deal.

I simply said that Caedin and DO were the most hyped newcomers in the pre-season and both play much less and have an impact less than expected.

Again, it's not a slight, it's just the truth.

As a matter of fact, most everyone thought DO could start and Parham would barely play, and Royce has had a much bigger impact in year one thus far.

These things can change and are always fluid, my main point is that I can see why Caedins bully ball bigger size and impressive ball handling/passing style and DOs free flowing elite athleticism would play up in a pre-season setting with the only competition being Marquette teammates and walk-ons

Damarius missed a good chunk of the offseason with injury. Same situation as Ben last offseason. Injuries, especially to young guys, can significantly alter the outlook of their seasons.

Shaka will mostly hype up his players. He likes them to play confidently. He'll almost certainly speak highly of some incoming freshman and Clark and Sean going into next season. The reality is, the upperclassmen are usually the guys who will lead Shaka's teams.

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It's pretty clear to me that DO is incredibly talented.  Maybe the most upside of any player out there. 

Can he defend and get mins with a senior heavy team in conf play and tourney? Thats a different question. 

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