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Don_Kojis

     21-11 lead
! Gold is finally hot.  You leave a hot guy in till he cools off.
2 You don't bring in 3 or 4 subs at one time.  Maybe 1 at a time.
3  Is Zaide hurt or what? Why Is Norman playing so much.
4 Can't let a Guy like Rivera take those shots. Play better def. 
5  Just lucky we won.

Uncle Rico

Guster is for Lovers

PointWarrior

2 You don't bring in 3 or 4 subs at one time.  Maybe 1 at a time.


probably the only thing that really confounds me about Shaka...

Scoop Snoop

20/20 hindsight, but why couldn't Shaka wait until at least late in the half? My Gawd our bench was awful.
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PGsHeroes32

Quote from: Don_Kojis on January 14, 2025, 08:49:38 PM21-11 lead
! Gold is finally hot.  You leave a hot guy in till he cools off.
2 You don't bring in 3 or 4 subs at one time.  Maybe 1 at a time.
3  Is Zaide hurt or what? Why Is Norman playing so much.
4 Can't let a Guy like Rivera take those shots. Play better def. 
5  Just lucky we won.

Umm Gold was the guy he left in lol

The subbing was dumb but you found a way to complain about it incorrectly. Nice.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

wadesworld

Shaka not staggering the underclassmen's minutes is one of the very few gripes I have with Shaka's coaching and running of the program. The other is timeout used (or lack thereof). Would like to see him use them to get a shot for someone specific when the offense is stagnant or to stop runs, and he does neither. I think we had 3 TOs left with a minute left.

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: wadesworld on January 14, 2025, 09:21:49 PMShaka not staggering the underclassmen's minutes is one of the very few gripes I have with Shaka's coaching and running of the program. The other is timeout used (or lack thereof). Would like to see him use them to get a shot for someone specific when the offense is stagnant or to stop runs, and he does neither. I think we had 3 TOs left with a minute left.

This would be huge with how well we draw up plays out of half. Wild we don't try it other times
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

GoldenEagles03

I think we have a bit of an answer on Stevie tonight...Shaka confirmed postgame that Stevie has been under the weather and struggling to breathe. He told Shaka before the game somewhat paraphrased "If I look like I am struggling to breathe, take me out, but I'm giving it my all"

He's a warrior. Winner.

https://youtu.be/lQYpzlDY4jk?si=QYIhi8hJv5EEPmoF
VIOLENCE!

1SE

Of course no one wants to be in a close game against an inferior team, but good coaches win close ball games at the end regardless of how the teams got there - and Shaka's been pretty good at it. A quick look (might have missed a few) is that he is 23-10 in games decided by <=6 or OT (so games that were probably pretty much a statistical top-up late - I'm sure some we were up big and they came back at the end or vice-versa, but a decent rough guide).

3-0 24-25
8-2 23-24
6-5 22-23
6-3 21-22
Real Warriors Demand Excellence

tower912

 He is 71-18 over the last 2.5 seasons, so you would think he has earned the benefit of the doubt.

But, the bench is a problem this season.  In year's past, when his bench has played better they have played more.  Oso as a sophomore.  Chase, Ben, and Sean as Frosh and sophomores.   
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It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

CTWarrior

My quibbles with Shaka so far this season are minor...
1.  He has no faith in the bench at this point.  I agree with using our subs one at a time whenever possible.  When we have two or more on the floor it seems like we can't keep up with anybody.
2.  We are both terrible inbounding the ball and defending the inbound, particularly under the basket.  When we inbound beneath our own hoop, I am happy if we just manage to get it inbounds safely.  When our opponents inbound underneath their basket, they seem to get a layup or a wide open three every time.  When they were checking if Gold's block at the end of regulation was goal tending or not (I don't think it was), I was secretly hoping they'd call it a goal tend, because the possession arrow was with DePaul and they would have been inbounding under their basket with 3 seconds.
3.  We have to figure out what to do against a zone other than chucking threes.  Need to get into the paint off the dribble or high post more.  We finally started getting a man at the foul line late in the second half.
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mileskishnish72

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 14, 2025, 11:01:30 PMI think we have a bit of an answer on Stevie tonight...Shaka confirmed postgame that Stevie has been under the weather and struggling to breathe. He told Shaka before the game somewhat paraphrased "If I look like I am struggling to breathe, take me out, but I'm giving it my all"

He's a warrior. Winner.

https://youtu.be/lQYpzlDY4jk?si=QYIhi8hJv5EEPmoF

The tough part about college BB is that you only have guys for a few years. If you fall in love with a player, TS, he'll be gone soon. I know this, I accept that that's the way things are, but I'm going to miss the hell out of Stevie.

tower912

That is a good presser.  Discusses zone philosophy.  Discusses how an open 3 is always a good shot for anyone on the team. Except Caedin.  Discusses what he needs from the bench.   Basically gives an answer to all of the questions and frustrations of fans.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: tower912 on January 15, 2025, 07:15:50 AMThat is a good presser.  Discusses zone philosophy.  Discusses how an open 3 is always a good shot for anyone on the team. Except Caedin.  Discusses what he needs from the bench.   Basically gives an answer to all of the questions and frustrations of fans.

I'm not watching that nor listening to what the coaches say
Guster is for Lovers

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 15, 2025, 07:17:24 AMI'm not watching that nor listening to what the coaches say

That's why I blocked you for a while Rico. Uncoachable.
VIOLENCE!

Uncle Rico

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 15, 2025, 07:26:58 AMThat's why I blocked you for a while Rico. Uncoachable.

Listen, I'm trying to be a team player here and it seems prudent that listening to what Shaka says about the program and how he coaches doesn't fit here
Guster is for Lovers

tower912

Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 15, 2025, 07:17:24 AMI'm not watching that nor listening to what the coaches say
Nor should you.  Nothing but coach speak without the requisite pandering, groveling, and apologizing that fans have earned the right to.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

BrewCity83

#17
Shaka did address why the subs didn't play more last night.  He said (paraphrasing) that the team jumped off to a big early lead and the bench came in kinda coasting, as though they were the ones who earned the lead.  Well it doesn't work that way, so they were pulled pretty quickly.
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tower912

He has said.previously that he tells them he is their friend and will do everything in his power to build them up and support them.  But it is on them to force him to play them.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

StillAWarrior

Quote from: tower912 on January 15, 2025, 07:15:50 AMDiscusses how an open 3 is always a good shot for anyone on the team.

"We'll take a wide open three at any time. I mean, if they don't take an open three, what type of shot do you want them to take?"
"[Unintelligible, but based on Shaka's response, probably something like]A better shot."
"Yeah...like what though? What type of better shot?"

For good or for bad (and it's been mostly pretty damn good if we're sitting around debating whether we're 4 or 5 on the S curve), Shaka (and Nevada's) offense favors threes and dunks. If that's the offense, by definition there really isn't a "better shot" than an open 3.
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tower912

Prefers an open 3 to an elbow jumper.



Can't be more clear about what he wants.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

mutodd5

Quote from: Don_Kojis on January 14, 2025, 08:49:38 PM2 You don't bring in 3 or 4 subs at one time.  Maybe 1 at a time.

I think Shaka actually has a plan with this sub-rotation (especially in the 1st half of games).  It tends to be class dominant for any 5 on the court.  We start 3 seniors and 2 juniors.  I think he's tying to build chemistry amongst the players that will be here 2-3 more years.  This is part of the "Relationships. Growth. Victory." and the player development mantra.  Let's give him the benefit of the doubt.

Also, if you pay attention to the rotations, he tends (barring foul trouble) to keep 1-2 starters (Kam and Chase/Stevie) + 3 subs that tend have at least 2 in the same class.  I like the fact that Owens and Parham play together regularly.  I like that Zaide and Tre play together regularly.  Those chemistry things are important for next year's team and the year after for the program. 

If you think back to 2-3 years ago, similar things occurred where Kam, Stevie, & Jop were on the floor together and the benefits of those investments in chemistry are being realized now.

#InShakaWeTrust

Milkshakes

Quote from: tower912 on January 15, 2025, 07:15:50 AMThat is a good presser.  Discusses zone philosophy.  Discusses how an open 3 is always a good shot for anyone on the team. Except Caedin.  Discusses what he needs from the bench.   Basically gives an answer to all of the questions and frustrations of fans.

I agree that it was a good presser.  Love the guy.  However, I didn't hear the zone philosophy. He said something like "a bunch of stuff" and then moved on without actually giving any details other than shoot the open three.  I'm all in on Shaka and I get the threes and layups/dunks over the midrange but I'm really wanting more on what the plan is against the zone. Maybe he just doesn't want to give details but I'm not seeing anything that says to me they have a strategy other than shoot the three. 

RJax55

Quote from: Milkshakes on January 15, 2025, 06:26:16 PMI agree that it was a good presser.  Love the guy.  However, I didn't hear the zone philosophy. He said something like "a bunch of stuff" and then moved on without actually giving any details other than shoot the open three.  I'm all in on Shaka and I get the threes and layups/dunks over the midrange but I'm really wanting more on what the plan is against the zone. Maybe he just doesn't want to give details but I'm not seeing anything that says to me they have a strategy other than shoot the three. 

Reverse the ball, shoot the 3, hit the glass.

tower912

He talked.about how zones are predictable and therefore the open spaces are predictable and they wanted to get players in the open spaces.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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