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TAMU, Knower of Ball

I wonder if Hopkins reinjuring his knee impacted Seans decision at all. They had different levels of the same injury and they happened within a week or two of each other.

I always thought this would be the best decision. Seans whole game is agility and explosiveness.  That knee has to be 110% ready
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GoldenEagles03

If Sean is starting and playing starter minutes I think there could be a World where he is in contention to be our leading scorer by seasons end.

I'd give the edge to Chase or Ben but neither of them have the shot creation ability of Sean and there really isn't a clear answer as to who that would be for us like we had with Kam this year.

Royce and Damarius maybe in that conversation too?
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MU82

Sensible decision. Looking forward to seeing Sean wreak havoc on opposing guards next season!
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wisblue

As long as he wants to stay in school for a fifth year (something nobody ever seems to consider) this seems to be a prudent decision.

cheebs09

Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on January 06, 2025, 11:28:06 AMI wonder if Hopkins reinjuring his knee impacted Seans decision at all. They had different levels of the same injury and they happened within a week or two of each other.

I always thought this would be the best decision. Seans whole game is agility and explosiveness.  That knee has to be 110% ready

I would imagine the mental hurdle is as much the physical, especially for someone so explosive. I would imagine he's at a greater risk of re-injuring if he is thinking about it or compensating for it.

TallTitan34

Quote from: wisblue on January 06, 2025, 11:41:53 AMAs long as he wants to stay in school for a fifth year (something nobody ever seems to consider) this seems to be a prudent decision.

Any chance he wants to stay a sixth year if the new five -year eligibility rules go through?

barfolomew

Quote from: MuMark on January 06, 2025, 11:26:28 AMEntirely too much levelheadedness in this thread today........come on scoop......step it up!

Terrible and selfish decision as he denies Scoop the immediate opportunity to criticize him when his play doesn't live up to our unrealistic expectations.

Hope he turns in his NIL money and issues us an apology.
Prolly won't tho, smh.
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Uncle Rico

Quote from: barfolomew on January 06, 2025, 12:04:55 PMTerrible and selfish decision as he denies Scoop the immediate opportunity to criticize him when his play doesn't live up to our unrealistic expectations.

Hope he turns in his NIL money and issues us an apology.
Prolly won't tho, smh.

Sort of how I feel.  He owes it to the fans to get out there and play
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Billy Hoyle

There is always the possibility his situation can change as the season goes on. God forbid an injury happens taking away our depth at PG and Sean feels ready he could play. Declaring the intent to redshirt means nothing until the end of the season.
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Skatastrophy

This is a disaster. I guess 2025 is a tank year. Hopefully, we draft well.

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: Skatastrophy on January 06, 2025, 12:09:51 PMThis is a disaster. I guess 2025 is a tank year. Hopefully, we draft well.

Please wait and see what happens at the Jan. 31st trade deadline before making claims about 2025 being a tank year.
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Skatastrophy

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 06, 2025, 12:21:06 PMPlease wait and see what happens at the Jan. 31st trade deadline before making claims about 2025 being a tank year.
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MU82

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"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Jay Bee

Quote from: brewcity77 on January 06, 2025, 10:59:22 AMAnother where Jay Bee can correct me, but if Sean played tomorrow, he would be ineligible for a medical redshirt/waiver, no matter what happened.

The rule is an injury has to occur in the first half of the season with 30% or less of games played. Tomorrow is game 16/31, which means even if Sean played one minute and suffered a completely new injury, he would be ineligible for the medical waiver.

If he came back in the Creighton game, got injured, tried to tough it out through the next 9 games, and then shut it down, he would've been eligible, but because tomorrow is game 16, that's it.

This is the best decision.

A couple of minor corrections - not that it matters in this case.

The 50% of the season means you need to be incapable of playing (per medical folks, generally) the entire second half of the season, as defined. Therefore, if he came back in the CU game and played 9 more games, he would not be eligible. No games after 50%, period.

...in this case, 50% actually hasn't been hit yet. So he COULD give it a go next game and if the docs said, 'nope, shut it down' he'd still be eligible. If you have a qualified MTE.. 50% is based on 32 games [31 plus 1 for ncaa championships] -- so, you can play up to and including game 16 and still be OK on the 50%. But, if you're OK to play after game 16, it's a no go.
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MuggsyB

I think this is a prudent decision as much as I think he could help us.  JTY will he strong and ready to go next season. 

Newsdreams

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 06, 2025, 12:21:06 PMPlease wait and see what happens at the Jan. 31st trade deadline before making claims about 2025 being a tank year.
Will JFB agree to be traded to MU? Doubtful.....
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It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Shooter McGavin

Agree with the decision even though I think he could have helped the team this year.  It is better for him to fully heal. 

tower912

Shaka said post game that Sean's knee injury was of a type that takes 18 months to fully heal.   

Do what you need to do, young sir.
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It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 06, 2025, 11:33:17 AMIf Sean is starting and playing starter minutes I think there could be a World where he is in contention to be our leading scorer by seasons end.

I'd give the edge to Chase or Ben but neither of them have the shot creation ability of Sean and there really isn't a clear answer as to who that would be for us like we had with Kam this year.

Royce and Damarius maybe in that conversation too?

I'd wager a lot of money that Sean is never Marquette's leading scorer at the end of a season.

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: Hards Alumni on January 09, 2025, 07:48:02 AMI'd wager a lot of money that Sean is never Marquette's leading scorer at the end of a season.

Your side of the wager would definitely be the favorite but he will get the minutes, he can create his own offense, he can get to the basket so it wouldn't be crazy.

I think after Tuesday, Chase showed that it should be him, but it would be nice to see him string a handful of nice offensive games together. He started the season with 3 double digit scoring games in a row and since then has scored in single digits 7 of 12 games including a pair of 2 point outputs. He's also shooting 40% from 3 on the year now. Would love to see him become a go to guy...starting now.
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The Sultan

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 09, 2025, 10:07:25 AMYour side of the wager would definitely be the favorite but he will get the minutes, he can create his own offense, he can get to the basket so it wouldn't be crazy.

It would be crazy. He's not good enough of a shooter.

Not to mention he will be surrounded by better scorers.
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Hards Alumni

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 09, 2025, 10:07:25 AMYour side of the wager would definitely be the favorite but he will get the minutes, he can create his own offense, he can get to the basket so it wouldn't be crazy.

I think after Tuesday, Chase showed that it should be him, but it would be nice to see him string a handful of nice offensive games together. He started the season with 3 double digit scoring games in a row and since then has scored in single digits 7 of 12 games including a pair of 2 point outputs. He's also shooting 40% from 3 on the year now. Would love to see him become a go to guy...starting now.

Yeah, I guess that's what I'm really saying.  If Chase doesn't go pro, he will lead the scoring for next year, and based on volume alone the year after is going to be Royce and Damarius.  Could Sean surprise?  Sure, but his body of work at MU doesn't show me that he is a reliable scorer.  He has three games where he has scored in double digits in his career.  Personally, I see him more as a Derrick Wilson type player rather than a Kam Jones type player.  Apologies ahead of time to those two I have offended with these comparisons.

The Sultan

Quote from: Hards Alumni on January 09, 2025, 10:16:23 AMYeah, I guess that's what I'm really saying.  If Chase doesn't go pro, he will lead the scoring for next year, and based on volume alone the year after is going to be Royce and Damarius.  Could Sean surprise?  Sure, but his body of work at MU doesn't show me that he is a reliable scorer.  He has three games where he has scored in double digits in his career.  Personally, I see him more as a Derrick Wilson type player rather than a Kam Jones type player.  Apologies ahead of time to those two I have offended with these comparisons.

My comp for Sean is Pops Sims. And while Sims did have a fine scoring year as a junior, when he was surrounded by other scorers, he was more of a facilitator.
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GoldenEagles03

Quote from: Hards Alumni on January 09, 2025, 10:16:23 AMYeah, I guess that's what I'm really saying.  If Chase doesn't go pro, he will lead the scoring for next year, and based on volume alone the year after is going to be Royce and Damarius.  Could Sean surprise?  Sure, but his body of work at MU doesn't show me that he is a reliable scorer.  He has three games where he has scored in double digits in his career.  Personally, I see him more as a Derrick Wilson type player rather than a Kam Jones type player.  Apologies ahead of time to those two I have offended with these comparisons.

Here's one...he's got a similar game to Dominic James IMO.

James was 5'11" 185 lbs. Sean is 5'10" 175 lbs.

Both are 29% 3 point shooters (yup you read that right). Both are defensive-minded. Both can get to the basket.

Sean's assist rate and usage are lower, but James was a 4 year starter in a more traditional offense compared to Marquette's current prostyle positionless basketball.
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