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[Jay Bee]

I'm not a big rules guy, but for me the Memphis call was fine.. and I take issue with Hurley yesterday repeatedly talking about the two calls shouldn't have been "at that time", "in that moment you don't call that", etc. etc... I understand the sentiment, but don't like the wording. If a ref is calling a game one way the entire game, I don't think they should switch it up during that game. But, the rules are the rules.

As I look at the Memphis case.. for me, even looking at Rule 10 Art 6... gets me there as it being a foul. "A player shall not extend the arm(s) fully or partially, other than vertically, so that the freedome of movement of an oppoennt is hindered when contact with the arm(s) occurs". Sultan was yapping about the Memphis player being in legal rebounding position.. but I don't think that even matters here.

Liam extended his arms outward, not just vertically, and when the Memphis player attempted to jump straight up, he was met by Liam's cheating arms, and thus it was a foul.

Also, Hunter D. 2 prizon.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

I'm not a big rules guy, but for me the Memphis call was fine.. and I take issue with Hurley yesterday repeatedly talking about the two calls shouldn't have been "at that time", "in that moment you don't call that", etc. etc... I understand the sentiment, but don't like the wording. If a ref is calling a game one way the entire game, I don't think they should switch it up during that game. But, the rules are the rules.

As I look at the Memphis case.. for me, even looking at Rule 10 Art 6... gets me there as it being a foul. "A player shall not extend the arm(s) fully or partially, other than vertically, so that the freedome of movement of an oppoennt is hindered when contact with the arm(s) occurs". Sultan was yapping about the Memphis player being in legal rebounding position.. but I don't think that even matters here.

Liam extended his arms outward, not just vertically, and when the Memphis player attempted to jump straight up, he was met by Liam's cheating arms, and thus it was a foul.

Also, Hunter D. 2 prizon.

Nope. You are reading the wrong part of the rulebook. There are actually two parts that apply here. Can you find them?

[Jay Bee]

Nope. You are reading the wrong part of the rulebook. There are actually two parts that apply here. Can you find them?

You disagree that it was a foul under 10-6?

Just point me to your parts (pawz), and I'll consider looking at

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

You disagree that it was a foul under 10-6?

Just point me to your parts (pawz), and I'll consider looking at

Keep looking...

[NCMUFan]

UCONN goes down to Dayton in large fashion.
Blood in the water for MU this season?

[IrwinFletcher]

Karaban apparently hit his head on the floor at the end of the game and afterwards was taken to the hospital and is under concussion protocol.  Hopefully not serious.  Would be a massive loss for them if out for awhile.

[HowardsWorld]

UConn more than likely drops out of the top 25 leaving just Marquette as the only big east ranked team.

[Spaniel with a Short Tail]

[Scoop Snoop]

UCONN goes down to Dayton in large fashion.
Blood in the water for MU this season?

Yes, but maybe in a watered-down BE in terms of probable NET values. Winning vs. any (hopefully all) of our next 3 major OOC opponents becomes even more important. I still do not understand scoopers laughing off our BE brethren's' losses, especially when it involves a team that was expected to be in the upper 5-6. I mean....it's not rocket science as to how this affects us.

I'm done guessing how UCONN is going to play out. We could well be the regular season and BET champs, but it is way too early to predict.

[MU82]

How much could any of us have made by betting a few days ago that UConn would go 0-3 in Maui?


Snoop: The pragmatic side of me gets that UConn losing could affect the Big East's overall picture and could even eventually hurt Marquette's NCAA seeding. But there's a less-logical-fan side that simply enjoys watching the king get his crown knocked off on the national stage.

[Scoop Snoop]

How much could any of us have made by betting a few days ago that UConn would go 0-3 in Maui?


Snoop: The pragmatic side of me gets that UConn losing could affect the Big East's overall picture and could even eventually hurt Marquette's NCAA seeding. But there's a less-logical-fan side that simply enjoys watching the king get his crown knocked off on the national stage.

Since you identified it as your "less logical side", that's fair. I guess I won't put you on ignore after all. Just watch it pal! 

[forgetful]

I'm not a big rules guy, but for me the Memphis call was fine.. and I take issue with Hurley yesterday repeatedly talking about the two calls shouldn't have been "at that time", "in that moment you don't call that", etc. etc... I understand the sentiment, but don't like the wording. If a ref is calling a game one way the entire game, I don't think they should switch it up during that game. But, the rules are the rules.

As I look at the Memphis case.. for me, even looking at Rule 10 Art 6... gets me there as it being a foul. "A player shall not extend the arm(s) fully or partially, other than vertically, so that the freedome of movement of an oppoennt is hindered when contact with the arm(s) occurs". Sultan was yapping about the Memphis player being in legal rebounding position.. but I don't think that even matters here.

Liam extended his arms outward, not just vertically, and when the Memphis player attempted to jump straight up, he was met by Liam's cheating arms, and thus it was a foul.

Also, Hunter D. 2 prizon.

The reason I said it was 50/50 is that in the definitions (Section 30: for rebounds) Article 2. states that to establish or maintain legal rebounding position, a player shall not:

"Extend either or both shoulders, hips or knees, or extend either or both
arms or elbows, fully or partially, in a position other than vertical so that
the freedom of movement of an opponent is hindered when contact with
any of these body parts occurs"

You are using an equivalent rule to call it a foul on UCONN, but the Memphis player fully extends his left arm to restrain the UCONN player, and block his ability to access the rebound. The Memphis player violates this rule to maintain legal rebounding position. So you could call a foul on the Memphis player, the UCONN player (under your rule) or leave it a no call and two players fighting for a rebound (best call in this instance).

It's a nuance and it is called a foul in some games, but late in OT, let 50/50 calls go.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

"I chose to live in Storrs instead of LA and my team sucks anyway"

[burger]

Time for "Wifey" to take those "whitey's" out of good luck rotation.....

[Skatastrophy]

"I chose to live in Storrs instead of LA and my team sucks anyway"

Suns could use a new coach, and Phoenix is nice this time of year

[wadesworld]

The BE got 3 teams in the Tourney last year. The rest of the BE stinking didn't hurt UCONN, MU, or Creighton from being seeded very highly.

Gonzaga plays in a 2 bid league every year and is always seeded highly.

We aren't bubble boys anymore.

[MU82]

Yep. No matter how bad it might get, at least we're not in the A-10.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Wondering if there's ever been a team that was ranked 2nd and fell entirely out of the top 25 within a single week.

[Jay Bee]

Wondering if there's ever been a team that was ranked 2nd and fell entirely out of the top 25 within a single week.

Can't imagine

[K1 Lover]

Wondering if there's ever been a team that was ranked 2nd and fell entirely out of the top 25 within a single week.

It happened to Arizona in 2017. They were ranked 2nd and proceeded to lose all three games against unranked teams in that year's Battle 4 Atlantis; they were unranked the following Monday. And they were later upset in the first round of the NCAAT as a 4-seed.

Previous to this, the last team to go from #2 to unranked was 1986-1987 Louisville.

[muwarrior69]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/uconn-is-overrated-and-other-key-takeaways-from-maui-invitational/ar-AA1uWdk3?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=2d27c7fb8f1e4991805995be1ddd100f&ei=16

[Shooter McGavin]

UConn's lack of depth at the five brings to mind Shaka's recent philosophy of red shirting big men and starting a pipeline.  It will be nice if this continues. Although he will have to have some luck with this to work successfully. 

Next year they will be even more deep at the five with three serviceable/capable centers. Hopefully this just perpetuates itself over time.

[willie warrior]

Hurley needs to quit whining and start coaching.

Good teams adapt to game conditions.

Mediocre teams whine about officiating.

Hurley should have taken the Lakers job. He is clearly slipping.

[Uncle Rico]

Hurley should have taken the Lakers job. He is clearly slipping.

No notes.  Simply a magnificent observation.

[dgies9156]

I think every call against Dean in the Ohio State game was correct. I don't know why people would complain about the officiating. 

Well, those of us who are still alive complain because we are a bunch of grizzled old men and women who have nothing better to do, save for yelling at young people to stay off our lawns.

Ultimately, you're right. It doesn't matter what we think, what the team thinks or what anyone else thinks. The officials have the last word. Well coached teams assess what they can and cannot get away with and perform accordingly. Poor teams or poorly coached teams whine.
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Case in point: That ugly Miami of Ohio loss in 1978. Many blame the refs. I blame our team and our coaches for not reading the signals and acting accordingly.