2024-25 NBA Thread

[The Sultan]

Only to those that are stuck in conventional thinking.

2015 NBA Title - no Durant

2016 best record in NBA history - beaten in Finals by the Goat

2018 NBA title - Durant played great and helped them win title - did not LEAD them to title. Only the 2nd best player on the team.

Oh

[MuggsyB]

Boston is up 25-3 vs Cleveland, without Porzingas or Holiday, and 7+ mins remaining in the 1Q.

[wadesworld]

Only to those that are stuck in conventional thinking.

2015 NBA Title - no Durant

2016 best record in NBA history - beaten in Finals by the Goat

2018 NBA title - Durant played great and helped them win title - did not LEAD them to title. Only the 2nd best player on the team.

I forgot Jimmy was on all those Warriors title teams.

[MuggsyB]

Great response fron the Cavs. 

[BM1090]

Only to those that are stuck in conventional thinking.

2015 NBA Title - no Durant

2016 best record in NBA history - beaten in Finals by the Goat

2018 NBA title - Durant played great and helped them win title - did not LEAD them to title. Only the 2nd best player on the team.

I don't think you're necessarily wrong about KD, but if GS wins the finals this year it's not happening with Jimmy as their best player. He helps. He makes them a lot better. He's really good. But he wouldn't be leading them to a title.

[Jockey]

I don't think you're necessarily wrong about KD, but if GS wins the finals this year it's not happening with Jimmy as their best player. He helps. He makes them a lot better. He's really good. But he wouldn't be leading them to a title.

I hope I didn't leave the impression that I was saying Jimmy was their best player. Steph is far and away their best player. Obviously.

What Jimmy does is to fill in a lot of the gaps on the team. He makes it much easier for Steph to be Steph. Draymond was the alpha. Jimmy is now.

[wadesworld]

I hope I didn't leave the impression that I was saying Jimmy was their best player. Steph is far and away their best player. Obviously.

What Jimmy does is to fill in a lot of the gaps on the team. He makes it much easier for Steph to be Steph. Draymond was the alpha. Jimmy is now.

        

[cheebs09]

        

Draymond wishes he was the alpha. He's more the Rodman to Steph/Klay or Durant.

[wadesworld]

Draymond wishes he was the alpha. He's more the Rodman to Steph/Klay or Durant.

Right. The idea that Steph Curry needs an alpha that "leads" a team to a title is absolutely hysterical.

[Skatastrophy]

Right. The idea that Steph Curry needs an alpha that "leads" a team to a title is absolutely hysterical.

I think steph benefits from a heel so that people don't realize he's a heel too.

[Jockey]

Draymond is probably going to be a HoF'er. In the late teens (when the Warriors were winning titles), he was one the dominant players in the NBA.

Whether people like him or not, that doesn't change. Jimmy has now taken over a lot of the leadership that Draymond used to provide.

I marvel at how people believe you can just throw great players together and win. Ask KD. He has played with greatness his entire career. He only won when he got to play with Curry & Green.

If you can think of other championship teams he has been on, please list them for me.

[BM1090]

Draymond is probably going to be a HoF'er. In the late teens (when the Warriors were winning titles), he was one the dominant players in the NBA.

Whether people like him or not, that doesn't change. Jimmy has now taken over a lot of the leadership that Draymond used to provide.

I marvel at how people believe you can just throw great players together and win. Ask KD. He has played with greatness his entire career. He only won when he got to play with Curry & Green.

If you can think of other championship teams he has been on, please list them for me.

To be fair, he probably would have won in 2021 if Kyrie didn't get hurt. That team runs through the Hawks and probably beats Phoenix.

[wadesworld]

Draymond is probably going to be a HoF'er. In the late teens (when the Warriors were winning titles), he was one the dominant players in the NBA.

Whether people like him or not, that doesn't change. Jimmy has now taken over a lot of the leadership that Draymond used to provide.

I marvel at how people believe you can just throw great players together and win. Ask KD. He has played with greatness his entire career. He only won when he got to play with Curry & Green.

If you can think of other championship teams he has been on, please list them for me.

Again, I forgot about all of the teams Jimmy Butler has won titles with.

Lol.

[Pakuni]

Again, I forgot about all of the teams Jimmy Butler has won titles with.

Lol.

This really is the most confusing debate ever.

[Jockey]

To be fair, he probably would have won in 2021 if Kyrie didn't get hurt. That team runs through the Hawks and probably beats Phoenix.

And the Bucks may have won last year if their starters were healthy for the Playoffs. But they weren't and they didn't.

I have never minimized Durant's skills. I have said he is a top 20 all-timer. Yet some people (not referring to you) get completely butt hurt if Durant isn't glorified.

But I appreciate your comments in the discussion. We're not meant to agree on everything.

[wadesworld]

And the Bucks may have won last year if their starters were healthy for the Playoffs. But they weren't and they didn't.

I have never minimized Durant's skills. I have said he is a top 20 all-timer. Yet some people (not referring to you) get completely butt hurt if Durant isn't glorified.

But I appreciate your comments in the discussion. We're not meant to agree on everything.

Why is Jimmy Butler the guy who will lead the Warriors when the Warriors have 4 titles without him and he has 0 titles, but KD could never lead a team to a title despite 2 Finals MVPs after 1 Warriors ring? That's the issue here. There's a fundamental flaw in your argument.

[Jockey]

Why is Jimmy Butler the guy who will lead the Warriors when the Warriors have 4 titles without him and he has 0 titles, but KD could never lead a team to a title despite 2 Finals MVPs after 1 Warriors ring? That's the issue here. There's a fundamental flaw in your argument.

Very simple. GS was the best team in the league even BEFORE getting KD.

This year's team was nowhere near the best team in the league. That is why acquiring Jimmy was so important.


Also, continuing my theme of not liking Butler, the new lawsuit doesn't surprise me a bit. Deshaun Watson may be my least favorite athlete, but Jimmy and Jaire aren't far behind.

Makes me so much more appreciative of the outstanding young men that Shaka has brought in.

[Shaka Shart]

Very simple. GS was the best team in the league even BEFORE getting KD.

This year's team was nowhere near the best team in the league. That is why acquiring Jimmy was so important.


Also, continuing my theme of not liking Butler, the new lawsuit doesn't surprise me a bit. Deshaun Watson may be my least favorite athlete, but Jimmy and Jaire aren't far behind.

Makes me so much more appreciative of the outstanding young men that Shaka has brought in.

Assaulting 20 some masseuses and leaving behind property damage on a rental property are the same severity. Nailed it.

[MuggsyB]

Did you see that Jimmy apparently didn't pay $260,000 in rent and left $130,000 in damages? If true, What the F?

He leased a 10 million dollar home for 6 years for 130K a month?   

[PGsHeroes32]

Did you see that Jimmy apparently didn't pay $260,000 in rent and left $130,000 in damages? If true, What the F?

Muggs

This was literally mentioned directly above your question

[MuggsyB]

Oh, sorry.  I posted before reading that. 

[wadesworld]

Very simple. GS was the best team in the league even BEFORE getting KD.

This year's team was nowhere near the best team in the league. That is why acquiring Jimmy was so important.


Also, continuing my theme of not liking Butler, the new lawsuit doesn't surprise me a bit. Deshaun Watson may be my least favorite athlete, but Jimmy and Jaire aren't far behind.

Makes me so much more appreciative of the outstanding young men that Shaka has brought in.

Okay. Your argument couldn't make much less sense, especially since the Cavs had been the best team before KD joined the Warriors. But sure. Steph needs Jimmy to win a title but didn't need KD.

[GB Warrior]

Assaulting 20 some masseuses and leaving behind property damage on a rental property are the same severity. Nailed it.

Doesn't even approach defrauding NFL referees by pretending to be captain

[Shaka Shart]

Doesn't even approach defrauding NFL referees by pretending to be captain

What am I supposed to tell my children about Jaire?

[Jockey]

Assaulting 20 some masseuses and leaving behind property damage on a rental property are the same severity. Nailed it.

Assaulting 20 some masseuses and leaving behind property damage on a rental property are the same severity. Nailed it.

Except I never compared anything. Please re-read my post.