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BM1090

Quote from: MuggsyB on October 27, 2024, 07:31:52 PM
Well....I'll just say they have severe probs.  And the fact thaf it's only 3 games is irrelevant when you consider their opponents thus far.

There are real concerns. Being 1-2 isn't one of them, even with the two losses being to non-contenders.

MuggsyB

Quote from: BM1090 on October 27, 2024, 11:10:09 PM
There are real concerns. Being 1-2 isn't one of them, even with the two losses being to non-contenders.

Very disappointing.  Are there any solutions?

4everwarriors

Da entire roster is a joke. Peddle der asses fore sum old Chuck Taylors, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Uncle Rico

Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 28, 2024, 07:51:05 AM
Da entire roster is a joke. Peddle der asses fore sum old Chuck Taylors, hey?

If Bucks fans are feeling down, this assessment should brighten their day.
Guster is for Lovers

MU82

Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 28, 2024, 07:51:05 AM
Da entire roster is a joke. Peddle der asses fore sum old Chuck Taylors, hey?

The last time you demanded this, they went on to win the NBA title, so Bucks fans are very thankful today.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

4everwarriors

Nah, dat wuz just #34. Dis tyme da 'hole shabang wood bea bedder off poundin' sand, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

The Sultan

Say it enough, and you'll eventually be right.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

4everwarriors

Clearly, Middleton and Lopez are fully baked. Pat C. and Portis are decent complementary players, but won't win you any championships. As for the rest of the bench...virtually no one would be valued by any playoff contender. That leaves #34 and #0. Lillard needs to be the alpha dog, but he, too, is long in the tooth...a bad fit here.
That leaves Giannis, who is clearly on the upside of the hill, but between injuries, load management, and age, doesn't give you the bang for the buck.

Solution...trade Giannis, Lillard, Pat C. And Portis...blow the roster up and just over, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

wadesworld

Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 28, 2024, 01:49:37 PM
Clearly, Middleton and Lopez are fully baked. Pat C. and Portis are decent complementary players, but won't win you any championships. As for the rest of the bench...virtually no one would be valued by any playoff contender. That leaves #34 and #0. Lillard needs to be the alpha dog, but he, too, is long in the tooth...a bad fit here.
That leaves Giannis, who is clearly on the upside of the hill, but between injuries, load management, and age, doesn't give you the bang for the buck.

Solution...trade Giannis, Lillard, Pat C. And Portis...blow the roster up and just over, hey?

You think Pat Connaughton has more trade value than Brook Lopez?

I think that says all anybody needs to know.  #ballknower

MU82

Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 28, 2024, 01:26:19 PM
Nah, dat wuz just #34.

Ah, so you're counting that as proof of you being correct and knowledgeable?
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

4everwarriors

Quote from: wadesworld on October 28, 2024, 02:07:45 PM
You think Pat Connaughton has more trade value than Brook Lopez?

I think that says all anybody needs to know.  #ballknower



Dude, the game has changed. Lopez slows you down to almost a walk and can't get off his feet to protect the rim...aka next to worthless in today's Association game, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

MUfan12

Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 28, 2024, 02:18:41 PM
Dude, the game has changed. Lopez slows you down to almost a walk and can't get off his feet to protect the rim...aka next to worthless in today's Association game, hey?

Brook had six blocks in the opener and three last night.

wadesworld

Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 28, 2024, 02:18:41 PM


Dude, the game has changed. Lopez slows you down to almost a walk and can't get off his feet to protect the rim...aka next to worthless in today's Association game, hey?

Yes.  Brook Lopez cannot protect the rim.

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Goose

Doc,

I think the Bucks are in for a long season. Old players and a below average coach does not make me very optimistic about the season. Sadly, the trade Giannis talk is likely to grow on the national scene as the season progresses. I have not thrown in the towel but hopes of multiple titles in Giannis era are starting to fade way for me.


Uncle Rico

Quote from: MUfan12 on October 28, 2024, 02:25:04 PM
Brook had six blocks in the opener and three last night.

You have high expectations if you think Bufffoon4Ever actually watched the game
Guster is for Lovers

The Sultan

Quote from: Goose on October 28, 2024, 02:27:42 PM
Doc,

I think the Bucks are in for a long season. Old players and a below average coach does not make me very optimistic about the season. Sadly, the trade Giannis talk is likely to grow on the national scene as the season progresses. I have not thrown in the towel but hopes of multiple titles in Giannis era are starting to fade way for me.


Unless he asks for it, and REALLY pushes for it, I don't think there is any way. He hasn't even started the extension he signed last year which takes him through 2026-27 - with a player option for 2027-28.

Now I could see them trading Dame this year, or more likely in the off-season, since he will have one year remaining.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

GB Warrior

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on October 28, 2024, 02:46:38 PM

Unless he asks for it, and REALLY pushes for it, I don't think there is any way. He hasn't even started the extension he signed last year which takes him through 2026-27 - with a player option for 2027-28.

Now I could see them trading Dame this year, or more likely in the off-season, since he will have one year remaining.

Any player option is non-existent save for catastrophic injury/skills degradation. Even then, Durant had no problems getting a max deal. The voices get very very loud if struggles continue, but nothing really matters til they can see this squad at full strength with Khris back.

Their age gives them little margin for error as the bench has somehow been worse (very small sample size) than last year's.

The Sultan

Quote from: GB Warrior on October 28, 2024, 03:57:49 PM
Any player option is non-existent save for catastrophic injury/skills degradation. Even then, Durant had no problems getting a max deal. The voices get very very loud if struggles continue, but nothing really matters til they can see this squad at full strength with Khris back.

Their age gives them little margin for error as the bench has somehow been worse (very small sample size) than last year's.

Right. My point is that Giannis is de facto under contract for two more years after this one. And I can't imagine the Bucks tearing it all down now and trading him.

Dame? Maybe. But my guess is that it wouldn't be until the off-season at the earliest.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Uncle Rico

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on October 28, 2024, 03:59:48 PM
Right. My point is that Giannis is de facto under contract for two more years after this one. And I can't imagine the Bucks tearing it all down now and trading him.

Dame? Maybe. But my guess is that it wouldn't be until the off-season at the earliest.

They won't blow it up until the end of that Giannis contract.  However they blow it up, whatever returns they get will be pennies on the dollar, anyway.  Rock, hard place. 

This team isn't winning a title as constituted imo. 
Guster is for Lovers

MuggsyB

Banchero is going bananas through 3 Q's. 

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: MuggsyB on October 28, 2024, 07:50:41 PM
Banchero is going bananas through 3 Q's.


*2

Not sure hes made a shot in the 2nd half.

Loads of assists tonight to though
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

MuggsyB

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on October 28, 2024, 08:14:32 PM

*2

Not sure hes made a shot in the 2nd half.

Loads of assists tonight to though

I just see he has 41, 10, and 9.  He must have had a Gargantuan 1st half. 

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: MuggsyB on October 28, 2024, 08:24:00 PM
I just see he has 41, 10, and 9.  He must have had a Gargantuan 1st half.

37 in 1st half
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

MUfan12

Starting to think the Bucks biggest problem is that 34 is finally losing some burst. I knew the back nine of his career would be problematic but I didn't think we'd be there already.

MuggsyB


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