2024-25 NBA Thread

[MuggsyB]

Thank you.

My favorite call was when Lebron grabbed a defender by both shoulders, including yanking on the jersey with one and quite literally throwing him to the side, while holding him...and the refs calling a foul on the defender and sending him to the FT line.

That was absurd.  It's clear Fluffy either didn't watch the game, has sinister or personal motives, or suffers fron dementia or poor eyesight.  Pretty much every time Lebron tumbled on the floor was a desperate act.  It makes you wonder what he would actually look like if  a 🦬 ran him over.

[Pakuni]

The T-Wolves shot more free throws and had fewer fouls called against them than the Lakers last night.
I can see why people are all worked up.

[MuggsyB]

The T-Wolves shot more free throws and had fewer fouls called against them than the Lakers last night.
I can see why people are all worked up.

The Lakers rarely drove to the paint and fouled constantly on the other end. 

They couldn't stop the ball or the interior whatsoever. 

[Pakuni]

The Lakers rarely drove to the paint and fouled constantly on the other end. 

Shot chart suggests otherwise.

https://www.nba.com/game/min-vs-lal-0042400165/game-charts?watchRecap=true

[The Sultan]

The T-Wolves shot more free throws and had fewer fouls called against them than the Lakers last night.
I can see why people are all worked up.

Huh.

Shot chart suggests otherwise.

https://www.nba.com/game/min-vs-lal-0042400165/game-charts?watchRecap=true

Huh.

[Uncle Rico]

Shot chart suggests otherwise.

https://www.nba.com/game/min-vs-lal-0042400165/game-charts?watchRecap=true

ESPN and the umps clearly had the fix in for the Lakers

[MuggsyB]

If you watched the game the calls were egregious and one sided. 

Minnesota also have bigs that can protect the paint.  The Lakers do not. 

[Uncle Rico]

If you watched the game the calls were egregious and one sided. 

Minnesota also have bigs that can protect the paint.  The Lakers do not. 

I know. ESPN wanted the Lakers to win

[MuggsyB]

I know. ESPN wanted the Lakers to win

I don't follow ESPN people.  Just live games on their channels. 

[Uncle Rico]

I don't follow ESPN people.  Just live games on their channels. 

ESPN has it in their contract to televise the NBA that the Lakers make the finals once every 3 years

[MuggsyB]

ESPN has it in their contract to televise the NBA that the Lakers make the finals once every 3 years

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Lol.

The Lakers have severe issues.  Even if Luka gets in shape. 

[forgetful]

Shot chart suggests otherwise.

https://www.nba.com/game/min-vs-lal-0042400165/game-charts?watchRecap=true

I don't think the shot chart says what you think it says.

Minnesota shot 42 2-pointers, by the chart, most were layup dunk range, consistent with drives.

Lakers shot 41 2-pointers, by the chart, they had more of them outside of layup/dunk range, more consistent with post-up play.

That jibes with how the game was played. Lebron/Doncic backing players in or posting, and Randle/Edwards attacking on dribble drives (as well as offensive rebounding put-backs which players are fouled on more often due to defenders being out of position).

[MuggsyB]

I don't think the shot chart says what you think it says.

Minnesota shot 42 2-pointers, by the chart, most were layup dunk range, consistent with drives.

Lakers shot 41 2-pointers, by the chart, they had more of them outside of layup/dunk range, more consistent with post-up play.

That jibes with how the game was played. Lebron/Doncic backing players in or posting, and Randle/Edwards attacking on dribble drives (as well as offensive rebounding put-backs which players are fouled on more often due to defenders being out of position).

Exactly. 

[forgetful]

The Thompson twins are pretty awesome defenders.

[Jay Bee]

We are the best. Hooooowwwwwllll

[MuggsyB]

Detroit really blowing a great opportunity. 

[tower912]

Pistons missed Jaden Ivey and Isaiah Stewart.  Alas.  Could have beat the Knicks.  Did not finish in the 4th quarters.  A fun, unexpected run to a six seed.  But the 3 seed beat them.  Need to learn to win in the playoffs.

[MuggsyB]

Clutch shot by Brunson.

[MuggsyB]

Celtics in 5?

[JWags85]

The Thompson twins are pretty awesome defenders.

They are, but this aged hilariously bad tonight

[forgetful]

They are, but this aged hilariously bad tonight

Agreed.

[MuggsyB]

They are, but this aged hilariously bad tonight

I think Detroit has to make someone else beat them.  Brunson doesn't have issues getting to his step back just fading right. 

[tower912]

The Thompson twins are pretty awesome defenders.

Their philosophy is to hold you now.

[The Sultan]

Their philosophy is to hold you now.

That joke makes you king for a day.

[MuggsyB]

The NBA says they made a mistake calling A.J. Green for a foul on Haliburton (which resulted in a 3pt play) just before overtime in G5.  Great. 

This is a common call that drives me up the freaking wall.  And we see it constantly in tbe NBA and college.  A player attacks the paint and makes a layup, falls, and with minimal or zero contact gets awarded a 3pt opportunity. This needs to be addressed as well as the flopping in general.  Enforce no flopping consistently, not for a few games at the beginning of the season.  They have seemingly done a good job with allowing defenders verticality, but these other calls are wildly inconsistent and can determine outcomes.  It honestly shouldn't be that difficult.