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Scoop Snoop

Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 04, 2024, 07:20:15 PM
That book was interesting, but a tedious read

I felt like I needed several spread sheets to keep track of all the people, parties, battles, uprisings, demands, reactionary activity, strategy of the Habsburgs and other royal houses on playing ethnic, religious, and social groups off of one another. etc.  etc.
This is the kind of book a guy like Muggsy should read but never will because it is the polar opposite of his simplistic, childishly naive takes on things.
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

"All of our answers are unencumbered by the thought process." NPR's Click and Clack of Car Talk.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on October 04, 2024, 10:09:01 PM
I felt like I needed several spread sheets to keep track of all the people, parties, battles, uprisings, demands, reactionary activity, strategy of the Habsburgs and other royal houses on playing ethnic, religious, and social groups off of one another. etc.  etc.
This is the kind of book a guy like Muggsy should read but never will because it is the polar opposite of his simplistic, childishly naive takes on things.

Out of the blue you turn a discussion of a book you've read into a personal attack on Muggsy - who's not even involved in the conversation . And you call him childish? The lack of self awareness here is at times mind blowing.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on October 04, 2024, 10:09:01 PM
I felt like I needed several spread sheets to keep track of all the people, parties, battles, uprisings, demands, reactionary activity, strategy of the Habsburgs and other royal houses on playing ethnic, religious, and social groups off of one another. etc.  etc.
This is the kind of book a guy like Muggsy should read but never will because it is the polar opposite of his simplistic, childishly naive takes on things.

It does encapsulate the inherent problems of European borders and such, even though that's not what the book is trying to be about.
Guster is for Lovers

The Sultan

Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 04, 2024, 10:36:15 PM
Out of the blue you turn a discussion of a book you've read into a personal attack on Muggsy - who's not even involved in the conversation . And you call him childish? The lack of self awareness here is at times mind blowing.

Huh.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Scoop Snoop

#104
Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 04, 2024, 10:36:15 PM
Out of the blue you turn a discussion of a book you've read into a personal attack on Muggsy - who's not even involved in the conversation . And you call him childish? The lack of self awareness here is at times mind blowing.

Read some of his posts. Among other gems, he thought that perhaps we should have seized the oil fields in the Mideast. And we should take out the world's bad guys. Of course, there would be no repercussions.
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

"All of our answers are unencumbered by the thought process." NPR's Click and Clack of Car Talk.

MU82

Quote from: Warriors4ever on October 04, 2024, 09:01:36 PM
Hey tower, I was a union steward and also sat on our bargaining committee. Maybe we are the only two...

I was on our union's bargaining committee, but wasn't a steward, so ya got me!

And speaking of bargaining, nice job by President Biden and his team to help settle the Longshoremen strike so quickly.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

4everwarriors

#106
IDF should take out Iran's nukes first and end this bullchit, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

MuggsyB

Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 05, 2024, 10:42:38 AM
IDF should take out Iran's nukes first and this bullchit, hey?

That's just for starters.

jesmu84

Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 05, 2024, 10:42:38 AM
IDF should take out Iran's nukes first and end this bullchit, hey?

Obama took out Iran's nukes.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on October 05, 2024, 09:35:16 AM
Read some of his posts. Among other gems, he thought that perhaps we should have seized the oil fields in the Mideast. And we should take out the world's bad guys. Of course, there would be no repercussions.

So when he says something you disagree with address it/him. But why take cheap shots in a discussion of a book in which he's not even included? That's just being a dick.

MuggsyB

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on October 04, 2024, 10:09:01 PM
I felt like I needed several spread sheets to keep track of all the people, parties, battles, uprisings, demands, reactionary activity, strategy of the Habsburgs and other royal houses on playing ethnic, religious, and social groups off of one another. etc.  etc.
This is the kind of book a guy like Muggsy should read but never will because it is the polar opposite of his simplistic, childishly naive takes on things.

They called Churchill naive and a warmonger.

MuggsyB

#111
Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 05, 2024, 02:57:22 PM
So when he says something you disagree with address it/him. But why take cheap shots in a discussion of a book in which he's not even included? That's just being a dick.
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I don't have a problem with it Lenny.  I won't  share my comprehensive 5 point plan, and all of its iterations, because I know SScoop and others will cry about it and pretend they are morally superior. 

Not all scoop users are created equal apparently

Quote from: MuggsyB on October 05, 2024, 03:08:31 PM
They called Churchill naive and a warmonger.

Raging racist who loved Eugenics tho. Pobody's Nerfect!
" There are two things I can consistently smell.    Poop and Chlorine.  All poop smells like acrid baby poop mixed with diaper creme. And almost anything that smells remotely like poop; porta-johns, water filtration plants, fertilizer, etc., smells exactly the same." - Tower912

Re: COVID-19

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MuggsyB on October 05, 2024, 03:10:03 PM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 05, 2024, 02:57:22 PM
So when he says something you disagree with address it/him. But why take cheap shots in a discussion of a book in which he's not even included? That's just being a dick.
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I don't have a problem with it Lenny.  I won't  share my comprehensive 5 point plan, and all of its iterations, because I know SScoop and others will cry about it and pretend they are morally superior.

I am morally superior
Guster is for Lovers


Scoop Snoop

Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 04, 2024, 10:36:15 PM
Out of the blue you turn a discussion of a book you've read into a personal attack on Muggsy - who's not even involved in the conversation . And you call him childish? The lack of self awareness here is at times mind blowing.

After reflecting upon your reply, I admit that there really is no connection between Muggsy and the book. The book is a scholarly work written by someone who has researched his subject thoroughly rather than someone like Muggsy just blurting out "ideas" that a fifth grader would recognize as nothing more than brainfarts. The author based his points upon a mountain of facts. Muggsy does not have facts. Doesn't need them. He also doesn't need to be rational, accountable, deal with reality, or present any credentials to support his declarations like his oh-so-secret 5-point plan.  ;D  If he says that orcas got together to send humans a message or the moose have the right to kill humans "without mercy", it is de facto truth. His comparing himself to Winston Churchill was a nice touch. That dovetails very nicely with his beginning a sentence "If I was in charge.... ;D  Sounds like a drunk in a bar. "If I waazzz the prez she...dunt, I woouuuld..."

When scoopers challenged him in the thread about the Israeli/Hamas conflict, he was shocked by the "immorality" of his opponents' takes. Another de facto-that makes him "morally superior". I will add that to the long list of his projections of his characteristics upon his critics including myself. I am happy to hear that you also are morally superior.
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

"All of our answers are unencumbered by the thought process." NPR's Click and Clack of Car Talk.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on October 06, 2024, 07:36:08 AM
After reflecting upon your reply, I admit that there really is no connection between Muggsy and the book. The book is a scholarly work written by someone who has researched his subject thoroughly rather than someone like Muggsy just blurting out "ideas" that a fifth grader would recognize as nothing more than brainfarts. The author based his points upon a mountain of facts. Muggsy does not have facts. Doesn't need them. He also doesn't need to be rational, accountable, deal with reality, or present any credentials to support his declarations like his oh-so-secret 5-point plan.  ;D  If he says that orcas got together to send humans a message or the moose have the right to kill humans "without mercy", it is de facto truth. His comparing himself to Winston Churchill was a nice touch. That dovetails very nicely with his beginning a sentence "If I was in charge.... ;D  Sounds like a drunk in a bar. "If I waazzz the prez she...dunt, I woouuuld..."

When scoopers challenged him in the thread about the Israeli/Hamas conflict, he was shocked by the "immorality" of his opponents' takes. Another de facto-that makes him "morally superior". I will add that to the long list of his projections of his characteristics upon his critics including myself. I am happy to hear that you also are morally superior.

So doubling, tripling, quadrupling and quintupling on being a dick just because. Cool.

tower912

Lenny, I would be more sympathetic to your point if you hadn't recently come unglued.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: tower912 on October 06, 2024, 08:40:47 AM
Lenny, I would be more sympathetic to your point if you hadn't recently come unglued.

Tower, I would be more sympathetic to your personal attack if it was true.

MuggsyB

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on October 06, 2024, 07:36:08 AM
After reflecting upon your reply, I admit that there really is no connection between Muggsy and the book. The book is a scholarly work written by someone who has researched his subject thoroughly rather than someone like Muggsy just blurting out "ideas" that a fifth grader would recognize as nothing more than brainfarts. The author based his points upon a mountain of facts. Muggsy does not have facts. Doesn't need them. He also doesn't need to be rational, accountable, deal with reality, or present any credentials to support his declarations like his oh-so-secret 5-point plan.  ;D  If he says that orcas got together to send humans a message or the moose have the right to kill humans "without mercy", it is de facto truth. His comparing himself to Winston Churchill was a nice touch. That dovetails very nicely with his beginning a sentence "If I was in charge.... ;D  Sounds like a drunk in a bar. "If I waazzz the prez she...dunt, I woouuuld..."

When scoopers challenged him in the thread about the Israeli/Hamas conflict, he was shocked by the "immorality" of his opponents' takes. Another de facto-that makes him "morally superior". I will add that to the long list of his projections of his characteristics upon his critics including myself. I am happy to hear that you also are morally superior.

You're conflating "facts" with a concrete plan that eliminates scumbags and worldwide threats.  Let me assure you both "conflicts" would be over and the world would be 1000 times safer if people got their head out of their asses, extricated themselves from la-la-land, and understood that appeasement does not work in certain cases.

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: MuggsyB on October 06, 2024, 09:05:51 AM
You're conflating "facts" with a concrete plan that eliminates scumbags and worldwide threats.  Let me assure you both "conflicts" would be over and the world would be 1000 times safer if people got their head out of their asses, extricated themselves from la-la-land, and understood that appeasement does not work in certain cases.

;D ;D ;D
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

"All of our answers are unencumbered by the thought process." NPR's Click and Clack of Car Talk.

MU82

Quote from: MuggsyB on October 06, 2024, 09:05:51 AM
You're conflating "facts" with a concrete plan that eliminates scumbags and worldwide threats.  Let me assure you both "conflicts" would be over and the world would be 1000 times safer if people got their head out of their asses, extricated themselves from la-la-land, and understood that appeasement does not work in certain cases.

Well, as long as you offer assurance, anyone who disagrees with you ever is obviously stoopid and morally inferior.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Jockey

Quote from: MuggsyB on October 06, 2024, 09:05:51 AM
You're conflating "facts" with a concrete plan that eliminates scumbags and worldwide threats.  Let me assure you both "conflicts" would be over and the world would be 1000 times safer if people got their head out of their asses, extricated themselves from la-la-land, and understood that appeasement does not work in certain cases.

Do you support trump's appeasement with Ukraine?

Scoop Snoop

#123
Quote from: MU82 on October 06, 2024, 10:34:09 AM
Well, as long as you offer assurance, anyone who disagrees with you ever is obviously stoopid and morally inferior.

Not only did he provide assurance, but as details of his 5-point plan emerge, we now know that the plan is concrete. Interesting use of the word conflating (a Muggsy favorite) but I noticed that as usual, he carefully sidestepped addressing my 5 points. Damn the torpedoes! Full speed ahead.

I really hope he has sent copies to the White House, Joint Chiefs of Staff, the NSA and the UN.
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

"All of our answers are unencumbered by the thought process." NPR's Click and Clack of Car Talk.

Scoop Snoop

#124
Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 06, 2024, 08:35:55 AM
So doubling, tripling, quadrupling and quintupling on being a dick just because. Cool.

Your hero does this all the time. Why can't I?
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

"All of our answers are unencumbered by the thought process." NPR's Click and Clack of Car Talk.

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