Stay Safe Florida Scoopers

[rocket surgeon]

Also, not compassionate

another internet psychologist I see

[Uncle Rico]

another internet psychologist I see

A blind man could see it

[forgetful]

Reread what I wrote, then what you wrote that I wrote. If you admit you misread my post, no harm no foul. If you still think your post is an accurate representation of what I wrote you'll have to join one of the nitwit classes.

I'm not one to often agree with Lenny, but the attacks on him here seem to be more attacking the person than it is what he said.

Lenny I read your posts as follows.

Poster 1 Suggests that dimwits who believe Dems are controlling the weather shouldn't be allowed to vote, otherwise it is cancelling "smart" voters votes.

You respond jokingly that voting should be restricted to people like you (and Poster 1) with IQs over 140.

Rico also responds jokingly.

You respond to that with a simple and accurate statement with the take-home message that we have to be careful when we start suggesting that "dimwits" shouldn't be allowed to vote, because it might cancel a smart persons votes, because there are plenty of dimwits on both sides.

As I note, this is accurate, and as I read it was meant to be entirely separate from any individual stances (e.g. individuals threatening meteorologists), and just a general fact.

All of that seems reasonable, and takes nothing away from the fact that the individuals threatening meteorologists are dimwits. Dimwits that should still be allowed to vote.

[tower912]

How many more insurance companies pull out of Florida?

[forgetful]

How many more insurance companies pull out of Florida?

Related, when does Florida become completely unaffordable because of the cost of insurance, or is it pretty much already there?

[tower912]

Third, what is this  going to due to condo fees?

[MU82]

narcissists

I have to admit that, given everything you've said here these last 9 years, I'm surprised you despise narcissists. So will you be voting for the Democrat, the Libertarian or the Green Party candidate?

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Since you always try to be reasonable I'll reply  to you.

Of course people who believe in weather machine are dimwits. And if they base who they vote for on that false belief they're casting a dim witted vote.

But when it comes to an uninformed electorate the weather machine dimwits are a minute subset of people (on both sides) who are going to cast votes for reasons that have no basis in fact.

If you believe in democracy you accept that fact and don't play some silly "my vote is being wasted canceling a dimwitted one from the other side" game.

Appreciate the reasonable response. I certainly agree that dimwits have the right to vote.

However, recent years have demonstrated to me how easy it is for a dimwitted take to evolve into a percieved truth. For the past eight years, one side in particular has amplified dimwitted takes to the mainstream, repeating them over and over and over again until they become accepted as fact by not only dimwits, but people of all intelligence levels and even across political lines.

Sure, the percentage of people threatening meteorologists over hurricane machines may be minute (at the moment), but plenty of other lies have been propagandized into truth and they are having a significant impact on our country. A belief that our economy is "the worst in history" when any objective measure has it as the envy of the rest of the world. The idea that there has been a "migrant violent crime wave" when violent crime is significantly down nationwide and statistics show that US citizens commit crimes at an exponentially higher rate than migrants. That undocumented immigrants are responsible for the majority of fentanyl in our country when less than 0.02% of undocumented immigrants caught by border patrol had any amount of fentanyl on them and experts say that the majority is being smuggled by US citizens at legal checkpoints, followed by the Canadian border, followed by ports. That Hatians in Springfield, OH are eating cats and dogs despite absolutely no evidence to support it.

And the dooziest of them, a 2023 poll found the 70% of Republicans believe that the 2020 election was stolen. Despite dozens of federal judges, most of them conservative, many of them appointed by Trump himself, all coming to the same conclusion, that there was zero evidence. And despite the Dominion lawsuit showing that Fox itself didn't believe it's own bullsh*t. This sort of dimwitted take would have never been allowed to gain traction 9 years ago. But now we have a supermajority of one of the parties who subscribe to this belief led by a presidential candidate and a vice presidential candidate who continue to double, triple, quadruple, and quintuple down. So the believers in hurricane machines may seem minute now, but nowadays, I don't write off anything as too dimwitted to become a dangerous talking point in the future.

So yes, the dimwits of both parties get to vote. Obviously. But I worry that one no longer has to be a dimwit to be one of the people "who are going to cast votes for reasons that have no basis in fact." It seems like the reasons for a lot of people's reason to vote has no basis in fact.

[pbiflyer]

I'm still safe

[SoCalEagle]

Appreciate the reasonable response. I certainly agree that dimwits have the right to vote.

However, recent years have demonstrated to me how easy it is for a dimwitted take to evolve into a percieved truth. For the past eight years, one side in particular has amplified dimwitted takes to the mainstream, repeating them over and over and over again until they become accepted as fact by not only dimwits, but people of all intelligence levels and even across political lines.

Sure, the percentage of people threatening meteorologists over hurricane machines may be minute (at the moment), but plenty of other lies have been propagandized into truth and they are having a significant impact on our country. A belief that our economy is "the worst in history" when any objective measure has it as the envy of the rest of the world. The idea that there has been a "migrant violent crime wave" when violent crime is significantly down nationwide and statistics show that US citizens commit crimes at an exponentially higher rate than migrants. That undocumented immigrants are responsible for the majority of fentanyl in our country when less than 0.02% of undocumented immigrants caught by border patrol had any amount of fentanyl on them and experts say that the majority is being smuggled by US citizens at legal checkpoints, followed by the Canadian border, followed by ports. That Hatians in Springfield, OH are eating cats and dogs despite absolutely no evidence to support it.

And the dooziest of them, a 2023 poll found the 70% of Republicans believe that the 2020 election was stolen. Despite dozens of federal judges, most of them conservative, many of them appointed by Trump himself, all coming to the same conclusion, that there was zero evidence. And despite the Dominion lawsuit showing that Fox itself didn't believe it's own bullsh*t. This sort of dimwitted take would have never been allowed to gain traction 9 years ago. But now we have a supermajority of one of the parties who subscribe to this belief led by a presidential candidate and a vice presidential candidate who continue to double, triple, quadruple, and quintuple down. So the believers in hurricane machines may seem minute now, but nowadays, I don't write off anything as too dimwitted to become a dangerous talking point in the future.

So yes, the dimwits of both parties get to vote. Obviously. But I worry that one no longer has to be a dimwit to be one of the people "who are going to cast votes for reasons that have no basis in fact." It seems like the reasons for a lot of people's reason to vote has no basis in fact.

TAMU, your write-up is spot on.  I have tried to articulate this same thought many times, though not as eloquently as you.  It comes down to one political party in particular living in a fantasy world.  The only thing I don't quite understand is whether these folks actually believe these things, or are simply playing along with their friends and choosing to play along with the fantasy.  Like the results of the 2020 election.  It's very hard for me to believe that 70% of R's TRULY believe the election was stolen.  These people just can't be that ill informed.  They know the truth, but simply choose to ignore it. 

[real chili 83]

IBTL

ND sucks

[tower912]

I'm still safe

Good.  Please stay that way.

[tower912]

Apparently, and not surprisingly, there are stranded manatees.

[Uncle Rico]

Apparently, and not surprisingly, there are stranded manatees.

Well, yeah.  Biden hates manatees.

[cheebs09]

Well, yeah.  Biden hates manatees.

I've heard that was his main motivation for creating the hurricane.

[Uncle Rico]

I've heard that was his main motivation for creating the hurricane.

That and to clear out room for illegals to vote democrat.  According to Facebook, he's using FEMA to steal valuables from hurricane victims.  Guess the hurricane actually wasn't real and FEMA went to evacuated areas, took the valuables and sold them on eBay and the used a controlled demolition to give an appearance of a hurricane.  Supposedly, the money went to Ukraine as part of a money laundering operation to pay for sanctuary cities and transgender reassignment surgery for kids at public schools

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

That and to clear out room for illegals to vote democrat.  According to Facebook, he's using FEMA to steal valuables from hurricane victims.  Guess the hurricane actually wasn't real and FEMA went to evacuated areas, took the valuables and sold them on eBay and the used a controlled demolition to give an appearance of a hurricane.  Supposedly, the money went to Ukraine as part of a money laundering operation to pay for sanctuary cities and transgender reassignment surgery for kids at public schools

I think every kid should be required to undertake government funded gender reassignment surgery before they turn 18.

[Uncle Rico]

I think every kid should be required to undertake government funded gender reassignment surgery before they turn 18.

I was watching Mark Levin and he said that's what will happen when we finally get the Communism I've been hearing about for decades

[dgies9156]

OK, to get back on subject, the biggest problem too many Floridians have was tornados. In our community, the outer bands of Milton spawned F3 tornados in Southern Indian River and Northern St. Lucie Counties. We have a hunk of our county that is either severely damaged or destroyed.

Our Roman Catholic Church lost a part of its roof, has a big hole in the ceiling to the sanctuary and has significant damage to our southern oaks on the property. My wife has a close friend who lost her roof, had rain in her living room, had trees fall on both her cars and has a significant rebuild cost.

Our state will recover but the challenge too many of our fellow Floridians have is their homes and condos are not built to current hurricane standards found in our post 2003 building standards. Our newer buildings survived wekll.

[jesmu84]

OK, to get back on subject, the biggest problem too many Floridians have was tornados. In our community, the outer bands of Milton spawned F3 tornados in Southern Indian River and Northern St. Lucie Counties. We have a hunk of our county that is either severely damaged or destroyed.

Our Roman Catholic Church lost a part of its roof, has a big hole in the ceiling to the sanctuary and has significant damage to our southern oaks on the property. My wife has a close friend who lost her roof, had rain in her living room, had trees fall on both her cars and has a significant rebuild cost.

Our state will recover but the challenge too many of our fellow Floridians have is their homes and condos are not built to current hurricane standards found in our post 2003 building standards. Our newer buildings survived wekll.

Is there any requirement to upgrade/update older buildings? Any money available for those projects?

[4everwarriors]

Dimwits, aka Fluffy GM's jargon, is so 60's ish, aina?

[MuggsyB]

Apparently, and not surprisingly, there are stranded manatees.

manateecoffee.com

Have your morning coffee and support the mighty manatee population. 

Their coffee is not 100% Kona Peaberry but still 1000 times better than Starbucks; DD, any K-Cup or Capsule garbage, etc.   Do not disparage or mock the manatee population and respect their kind and considerate nature.  They have suffered tremendous anxiety and God bless the people who continue to help them. 

[cheebs09]

I never thought of coffee made from manatee, but I'm willing to try.

[tower912]

You lost me at 'coffee.'

[MuggsyB]

I never thought of coffee made from manatee, but I'm willing to try.

I should have know better.  We must respect our marine mammals cheebs.